One for Diesel Dave

Evening, Dave :smiley:

I was having a discussion earlier with one of our guys regarding incompatible loads.

I know that toxic (class 6, in this case, 200L drums of a liquid chemical-PG III) is incompatible with foodstuffs.

Are their circumstances in which a pallet of chemicals described as above and a pallet of booze (bottled) can travel together? i.e. Segregation? and if so, what would be the permissable circumstances?

Cheers in advance, GlesgaBill :sunglasses:

TRY reading page 21 of this LINK

brit pete:
TRY reading page 21 of this LINK

Great link, Pete…now i just need the actual physical definition of ā€œsuitable segregationā€ :smiley:

GlesgaBill:
Evening, Dave :smiley:

I was having a discussion earlier with one of our guys regarding incompatible loads.

I know that toxic (class 6, in this case, 200L drums of a liquid chemical-PG III) is incompatible with foodstuffs.

Are their circumstances in which a pallet of chemicals described as above and a pallet of booze (bottled) can travel together? i.e. Segregation? and if so, what would be the permissable circumstances?

Cheers in advance, GlesgaBill :sunglasses:

Hi GlesgaBill, That’s a very good question indeed, and there will be a specific answer to it.

However, I’d need the UN number and the name of the toxic ā€˜stuff’ please…

ā€œIncompatibleā€ is a word that we use to describe two (or more) substances carried in the same vehicle, which if released at the same time, could cause a danger (by chemical reaction) worse than any of the substances on their own eg, flammables carried with oxidisers, or acids carried with alkalis.

Your question doesn’t relate to the above, unless there are other dangerous goods on board the vehicle, but instead relates to what ADR calls ā€œPrecautions with respect to foodstuffs, other articles of consumption and animal feeds,ā€ which is the reason for me asking for the UN number and name of the ā€˜stuff.’

:open_mouth: I’m afraid that the link in brit pete’s answer is (very) wide of the mark and is in fact actually half a world away from European reality, because he’s given you a link to the AUSTRALIAN national dangerous goods Regs. :open_mouth:

Sorry Pete, but Australia isn’t a member country of ADR, so therefore their dangerous goods Regs have no relevance to us in either the UK or Europe. :grimacing: :wink:

Hi dave

Thanks as always for replying.

With regard to the UN number of the toxic substance in question, i’m afraid i can’t remember that, other than to say the substance was a liquid vinyl product that began with a ā€œPā€ (no pun intended).

Can i assume then that the rule of thumb that ā€œtoxics & foodstuffs are incompatibleā€ may not be strictly true? :confused:

GlesgaBill:
Can i assume then that the rule of thumb that ā€œtoxics & foodstuffs are incompatibleā€ may not be strictly true? :confused:

Hi GlesgaBill, We have to be very careful with this question, because there are sometimes circumstances when it is permissible to carry toxins in the same vehicle as foodstuffs, but then again, sometimes it’s forbidden.

Sometimes, when this is allowed, there are extra conditions that must be met in order to keep the job legal.
Whether there are extra conditions depends on the UN number of the toxic goods in question, so I’m afraid there’s no rule of thumb and the rules will vary between different individual substances to some extent.
Your question isn’t restricted to Class 6.1 either, because the same rules can sometimes apply to Classes 6.2 and 9.

If you could get the UN number (the name might be helpful, but probably not essential) I could give you the exact answer to the question you originally asked. :smiley:

Cheers Dave :laughing:

I’ll make a note of the UN Number on my next trip to the factory in question…thanks agin, Dave! :sunglasses:

GlesgaBill:

brit pete:
TRY reading page 21 of this LINK

Great link, Pete…now i just need the actual physical definition of ā€œsuitable segregationā€ :smiley:

It doesn’t really matter what their definition of ā€œsuitable segregationā€ is, because it’s NOT relevant to the UK or Europe.

:open_mouth: Pete’s link is to the ā€˜Aussie Rules’ version of moving dangerous goods. :grimacing: