Oh dear another 'professional' driver

This regular sort of story doesn’t help the haulage industry :neutral_face:

Lorry driver who knew his brakes were faulty - and left woman with life changing injuries after crash - is jailed
manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ … s-10463785

I’m assuming typical crap reporting, a 65Tonne truck or is that your typical overloading now :open_mouth:

interesting that the driver and mechanic were prosecuted but mention of any action against the owners or directors.
Surely the mechanic wouldn’t be the one to say “take it anyway”.

The article refers to a company in Liverpool by the name of “Northover Haulage” if it is the same company? then they specialise in heavy haulage and abnormal loads … so may be that explains the 65 tonne.

Seems an extraordinarily lenient sentence; Speeding in a truck with an abnormal load whilst knowingly having faulty brakes ? if that is true he should be going to prison for 18 years!

Wasn’t there a poster on here who had faulty brakes and the mechanic refused to believe there was a problem with them.
Hopefully someone can learn a lesson from this tale without repeating it them self.

speedyguy:
I’m assuming typical crap reporting, a 65Tonne truck or is that your typical overloading now :open_mouth:

northoverhl.com/

“Heavy Haulage & Abnormal Load Specialists”

interesting that the driver and mechanic were prosecuted but mention of any action against the owners or directors.
Surely the mechanic wouldn’t be the one to say “take it anyway”.

Driver takes truck to mechanic, mechanic says its safe to go.

Or…mechanic had done a 6 weekly safety inspection quite recently as in days, maybe the week before and the brakes were shot to a point that they would’ve been found during that inspection.

Braking with an abnormal heavy load on is going to cause brakes to wear out a lot quicker - and all other ancillary gear about the business of heavy haulage come to that. :bulb:

What next?

Explosives carriers driving up a cobbled street?
Radioactive carriers taking that shortcut down “School Lane”?
Biohazard carriers taking a wrong turn into that Hospital cul-de-sac?

Why not just insist upon giving jobs to drivers with the good safety/licence records instead, and pay the premium that goes with such filtration of talents?
Throwing a specialist job at some Rab C Nesbitt lookalike with a 5th wheel wipe for a High-viz, and no limp because he’s ltd company rather than agency - doesn’t get around any dubious past he might have on closer inspection.

As I said in a previous post “Specialist in dealing with the aftermath of 9/11” should refer to the emergency services - rather than the endorsement range of said driver’s licence. :unamused:

Conor, tha’ts not what he claimed happened

He said he told bosses - who told him to travel to Manchester anyway, the court heard.

No mention of the mechanic saying it was OK, just his bosses saying “take it”.

It would be really interesting to learn what the complaint with the brakes was! If it was anything to do with them not working properly? then what sort of prize one idiot drives on his limiter in rush hour traffic after just tipping the scales at 65 Ton (even if his boss has told him to do so) If he had been gingerly creeping along at 30 in fear of his boss and his licence I may of had a smidgen of sympathy. He has destroyed someone’s life with his recklessness and 18 month seems very lenient indeed.

Can you imagine, bot driver and mechanic are not foreigners, but Brits :grimacing:

Im joking, relax …

Conor:

speedyguy:
I’m assuming typical crap reporting, a 65Tonne truck or is that your typical overloading now :open_mouth:

northoverhl.com/

“Heavy Haulage & Abnormal Load Specialists”

interesting that the driver and mechanic were prosecuted but mention of any action against the owners or directors.
Surely the mechanic wouldn’t be the one to say “take it anyway”.

Driver takes truck to mechanic, mechanic says its safe to go.

Or…mechanic had done a 6 weekly safety inspection quite recently as in days, maybe the week before and the brakes were shot to a point that they would’ve been found during that inspection.

Lorry driver who knew his brakes were faulty

Whatever the mechanic said or did is a separate issue.

Company mechanic Dennis Hill, 38, of Garston, Liverpool, was fined £800 and given three penalty points, after admitting permitting the use of a vehicle despite it being roadworthy.

Surely this must be a misprint? Should it not read, “…despite it being unroadworthy”!

I’ll never leave the yard in 65t truck with faulty breaks let alone speeding, this is recipe for disaster. He should have been given more jail time. Can you imagine him hitting bus full with people, thats madness.

Dolph:
I’ll never leave the yard in 65t truck with faulty breaks let alone speeding, this is recipe for disaster. He should have been given more jail time. Can you imagine him hitting bus full with people, thats madness.

did he cut his 45 short too ?
LOL

Driver should of refused to take the vehicle out even if under pressure from the T/M end of.

How many of use on here have had the office put pressure on us to do something bent?
At a company I use to work for whenever they did this I tell them either you drive the truck or get it fixed and make road legal and I will drive it.

Hence why I no longer work !

bestbooties:
Company mechanic Dennis Hill, 38, of Garston, Liverpool, was fined £800 and given three penalty points, after admitting permitting the use of a vehicle despite it being roadworthy.

Surely this must be a misprint? Should it not read, “…despite it being unroadworthy”!

Also penalty points? I presume it means on his driving licence?
if so what does any of it have to do with the mechanics ability to drive?

The driver David Cheetham was running late on the morning of the accident and the customer who he was delivering to in Moss Side Manchester was on the the phone constantly, so putting the driver under pressure, I’m not making excuses for him .
Northover heavy haulage is no longer trading as there operators licence was revoked
It was a cowboy company and well known to the the Traffic Commissioners
When the vehicle was removed to the VOSA test station they found grease from a wheel bearing on the brake shoes hence the fitter ? Was prosecuted as he had done the six weekly inspections allegedly a week or so so earlier

Bluey Circles:
The article refers to a company in Liverpool by the name of “Northover Haulage” if it is the same company? then they specialise in heavy haulage and abnormal loads … so may be that explains the 65 tonne.

Seems an extraordinarily lenient sentence; Speeding in a truck with an abnormal load whilst knowingly having faulty brakes ? if that is true he should be going to prison for 18 years!

I would dis-agree completely. A vehicles Brake for 65 ton is much stronger then 44 Ton.
The Brake Test before pulling off would be done with empty Lorry,and,if you do the Test with full Weight then with very slow Speed,and it is not possible to know what the Brake does by cruising Speed. A Professional Driver shall know that.
The only Way you can trust a Brake by that Weight is a Test in a Workshop,by using Data from Manufacturer,as the Workshop also just can check the empty Vehicle.
That why Oversize Vehicle travel with Low Speed.
That why you shall stay away from Heavy Goods Vehicle of such Size in Generally.

Immigrant:

Bluey Circles:
The article refers to a company in Liverpool by the name of “Northover Haulage” if it is the same company? then they specialise in heavy haulage and abnormal loads … so may be that explains the 65 tonne.

Seems an extraordinarily lenient sentence; Speeding in a truck with an abnormal load whilst knowingly having faulty brakes ? if that is true he should be going to prison for 18 years!

I would dis-agree completely. A vehicles Brake for 65 ton is much stronger then 44 Ton.
The Brake Test before pulling off would be done with empty Lorry,and,if you do the Test with full Weight then with very slow Speed,and it is not possible to know what the Brake does by cruising Speed. A Professional Driver shall know that.
The only Way you can trust a Brake by that Weight is a Test in a Workshop,by using Data from Manufacturer,as the Workshop also just can check the empty Vehicle.
That why Oversize Vehicle travel with Low Speed.
That why you shall stay away from Heavy Goods Vehicle of such Size in Generally.

I’m at a loss to understand the connection of your reply to mine ?

But, moving on … Are brakes more powerful on an STGO ? I had just presumed each brakes would be the same as per standard lorry, and the extra braking force would be handled by more axles and wheels hence more brakes, and possibly the higher axle weight limit would be taken care of by the reduced speed limits. 65 ton would have a max of 40mph on a motorway.

Well the next trucking ‘banana’ has had his sentence doubled :confused:
Lorry driver who stole van with owner still clinging to bonnet has prison sentence almost doubled
manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ … n-10468745

Maybe the stress of the job is driving them all over the edge :confused:
Or it may just be the air around Manchester :slight_smile: