how long should it take to get an amber OCRS rating upgraded to green?
Assuming all roadside checks, MOTs and legals have been satisfactory, will a “please may I have my green back” request be effective?
The scores that are marking you down will stay valid for three years from the time that you got them, the more positive encounters that you have, the less effect the negatives will have on your overall score
It doesn’t take much for the scores to go the wrong way, but takes a lot to get them back
So, to answer your question, how long is a piece of string?
But, theoretically, 3 years max if you don’t get any more negative encounters
It’s really annoying when you get stopped but they call it a sift ,they don’t check everything ,but hold you up just as long,and if all is good it doesn’t add to your score,only detracts from it if there’s an issue!
The fact that you have asked about this has been logged at VOSA HQ, and as a result your score will remain “amber” for a further 3-5 years. This has been a PSA…
Dan Punchard:
It’s really annoying when you get stopped but they call it a sift ,they don’t check everything ,but hold you up just as long,and if all is good it doesn’t add to your score,only detracts from it if there’s an issue!
This does count towards your ocrs.
Basically you get points for mot failures, pg9 etc.
Divide the total of these points over last 3 years by the number of clean encounters whether mot passes or sifts or full inspections. This is the base score, depending what this score is depends on what colour you are. High base score red, low base score green. Amber in the middle.
One man bands with no history of meeting vosa are grey, which they treat as red.
So the more sifts you get the lower the base score goes so you go into green eventually.
Sifts didn’t use to get put on your ocrs but rha campaigned about it a couple of years ago so they are added now.
coiler:
Dan Punchard:
It’s really annoying when you get stopped but they call it a sift ,they don’t check everything ,but hold you up just as long,and if all is good it doesn’t add to your score,only detracts from it if there’s an issue!This does count towards your ocrs.
Basically you get points for mot failures, pg9 etc.
Divide the total of these points over last 3 years by the number of clean encounters whether mot passes or sifts or full inspections. This is the base score, depending what this score is depends on what colour you are. High base score red, low base score green. Amber in the middle.
One man bands with no history of meeting vosa are grey, which they treat as red.So the more sifts you get the lower the base score goes so you go into green eventually.
Sifts didn’t use to get put on your ocrs but rha campaigned about it a couple of years ago so they are added now.
would that be about the same time as the rolling time scale was increased from 2 years to 3?
so, really, you are no better off, as the points scoring encounters are now on the OCRS system for half as long again 
I think dan right on this one had one of my lads stopped a few months back all ok but told him they only pulled him because they not seen the wagon for 18 months but wagon been pulled in twice in that time with no problems but obviously not been logged down 
R975ENC:
I think dan right on this one had one of my lads stopped a few months back all ok but told him they only pulled him because they not seen the wagon for 18 months but wagon been pulled in twice in that time with no problems but obviously not been logged down
What?! They pulled him because they hadn’t seen the vehicle for eighteen months? That is outrageous, when are we going to stand up to these people? Enough is enough 
shuttlespanker:
coiler:
Dan Punchard:
It’s really annoying when you get stopped but they call it a sift ,they don’t check everything ,but hold you up just as long,and if all is good it doesn’t add to your score,only detracts from it if there’s an issue!This does count towards your ocrs.
Basically you get points for mot failures, pg9 etc.
Divide the total of these points over last 3 years by the number of clean encounters whether mot passes or sifts or full inspections. This is the base score, depending what this score is depends on what colour you are. High base score red, low base score green. Amber in the middle.
One man bands with no history of meeting vosa are grey, which they treat as red.So the more sifts you get the lower the base score goes so you go into green eventually.
Sifts didn’t use to get put on your ocrs but rha campaigned about it a couple of years ago so they are added now.
would that be about the same time as the rolling time scale was increased from 2 years to 3?
so, really, you are no better off, as the points scoring encounters are now on the OCRS system for half as long again
No, the sifts have been registered on your record for some years now, well before the ocrs time scale increased to 3 years.
We tend not to get a lot of pulls on the enforcement side (tacho & weight checks). A couple of years ago I had 3 vehicles stopped in 2 days at switch island coming out of liverpool. They were weighed and tacho’s checked then sent on their way. There was no certificate of weighing or any other paperwork given.
These did not appear on my OCRS report the next month, so I found the phone number for the vosa office at liverpool and asked them why. The guy I spoke to there was most helpful, said that switch island was mainly run by the police and trading standards, hence why any weight and tacho checks were not recorded as Vosa hadn’t done the checks. Certificates of weighing are generally not now given if the vehicle is underweight.
I don’t think this is very fair, as I could have had three clear checks on my OCRS had Vosa been at the site.
I think the changes to the OCRS system are flawed.
As someone pointed out earlier, it’s very easy to have one incident which pulls you from green to amber or red, then it takes an age to get back into green, particularly if you’re an owner driver. One problem over a 3 year period does not make someone a rogue operator.
This is why Vosa go for the “easy” targets, smaller operators or owner drivers, rather than large operators who have 10 vehicles a day going through test. Their OCRS score will stay low just through the sheer number of encounters at the testing station.
This is why the OCRS system is skewed towards the larger operators and against the smaller operator.
Further to my previous posts on this topic I got stopped at weatherby on Tuesday ,drivers licence and tacho check was all nothing more than,the vosa man said this would benefit my ocrs.