A mate of mine works in sound department in events and usually hires in a 7.5ton or rents a self drive 3.5 ton to move his equipment around.
He is currently buying his own 7.5 ton with a sleeper and was wondering the following
What is the most reliable 7.5 ton sleeper to buy around 5/6 years old and rough idea of price?
I reckon a daf 45 and around 6/7k. opinion s on this ?
Its his own equipment he is transporting and has a small generator (not fixed) on board for testing his equipment and also one side of the truck will have fixed shelving plus a row of electrical sockets so he can power his equipment for testing, recording etc like a little workshop and also wants a electrical plug in so he can get power from an external jenny.
sometimes he carries small amounts of equipment for a mate eg turntable amps etc to the same concerts etc that he is working on but doesnt get paid for this.
so does he need a operator s licence or a restricted one or none at all
and will his insurance cover his friends stuff should something go wrong as i presume the insurance company will be looking for reciepts for the equipment in his name if anything is damaged.
But because it is like a workshop and if it had the generator fixed would it not be exempt as i thought a vehicle with a fixed generator was exempt kinda like a showmans.
nedflanders:
But because it is like a workshop and if it had the generator fixed would it not be exempt as i thought a vehicle with a fixed generator was exempt kinda like a showmans.
I’ll check my CPC notes when I’m next home but I don’t think so.
nedflanders:
Will the o licence restricted cover europe ?
nedflanders:
But because it is like a workshop and if it had the generator fixed would it not be exempt as i thought a vehicle with a fixed generator was exempt kinda like a showmans.
Will the o licence restricted cover europe ?
I think he’ll need a restricted licence, most race transporters are like workshops and have fixed generators, but they still need to have restricted O’licence.
Basically, showmen are exempted because they are showmen. This is a decades-old Grandfather’s Right.
People have often asked on here and elsewhere what you have to do to be able to operate under Showmen’s Exemption, and although it isn’t exactly defined in Law, the basic answer is “You need to be towing a load of bumper cars, a hook-a-duck stall, a hot-dog stand and a caravan”
Everybody else operating a lorry needs some type of Operator’s Licence.
If he does end up needing to apply for a licence he may as well go for a national or international as the criteria is near enough the same so long as he has the funds with regards to finical standing. (as far as I know)
At least then he has left a door open for the future.
Yes, as already said, restricted would be the right licence. No problem really with slinging a few things on for mates now and again for the odd beer but would always keep shtum about it in any encounters with VOSA etc. It would be up to his mate to organise his own insurance for his own stuff, which he should have really and a decent policy it wouldn’t matter whose vehicle it was in generally.
I think you’re spot on with a Daf LF, you might find a bit of a premium for sleeper. Pods aren’t that dear or difficult to put on if need be. I think there’ll be a lot more Daf sleepers around that other makes also. Iveco 75e17 is perfectly ok and will be similarly priced but rarer to find with sleeper, I think Merc & MAN will be more though.
ibson:
If he does end up needing to apply for a licence he may as well go for a national or international as the criteria is near enough the same so long as he has the funds with regards to finical standing. (as far as I know)
At least then he has left a door open for the future.
I would say standard national is a lot more hassle than restricted for something like a small marquee business though really.
ibson:
If he does end up needing to apply for a licence he may as well go for a national or international as the criteria is near enough the same so long as he has the funds with regards to finical standing. (as far as I know)
At least then he has left a door open for the future.
I would say standard national is a lot more hassle than restricted for something like a small marquee business though really.
I must say, we ran restricted for 20 plus years and now national, I myself did the Cpc and gained a lot of knowledge (worth the money alone) and apart from the financial standing as a disadvantage I can’t see many others, I don’t need to operate the transport any differently, I just have the advantage of hiring our vehicles out.
