Anyone got any pictures or stories of Nuttals of Clifton Manchester, originally run by the Nuttall family then the two brothers split up with one setting up a new company with red vehicles and the other brother keeping the old company with green vehicles. Later the green vehicle ccompany merged with another hauler from Kent called Hazeldean and formed a company called HND that company was then sold to R Swain and Sons of Rochester to form their Northern Depot.
Here you go backload.James Nutalls still operating today was the other brother called William ? photos from transportphotos.com/road/photos
It was originally William Nuttall and there were four brothers. As in most family businesses there was a serious falling out. I can only remember William Nuttall’s lorries being blue in the 1950s and '60s. Much of their work then was for the Chloride Works (Exide Batteries) at Clifton. Unfortunately the man who I knew who worked for them (Bernard Potter) died suddenly a couple of years ago.
Thanks for the pics, but I think James Nuttall of Rochdale is a total different family, the brother that broke away had red vehicles and think was based in Walmersley Bury. That’s the problem with family firms slot of friction between the members and seems to go fine until they get married then the spouses and the 2nd generations get involved and that’s the job ■■■■■■…!
Wasn’t there a Henry Nuttall somewhere, not sure if he was in Heywood or was it Shuttleworth 70s/80s.
mushroomman:
Wasn’t there a Henry Nuttall somewhere, not sure if he was in Heywood or was it Shuttleworth 70s/80s.
Henry Nuttall, Canal Street, Heywood. Red trucks, father of James Nuttall may be one of the brothers.
backload:
Thanks for the pics, but I think James Nuttall of Rochdale is a total different family, the brother that broke away had red vehicles and think was based in Walmersley Bury. That’s the problem with family firms slot of friction between the members and seems to go fine until they get married then the spouses and the 2nd generations get involved and that’s the job [zb]…!
See prev post re Henry Nuttall from Heywood.
Red trucks from Walmersley were J.H.Hinchcliffe, my son parks his truck in their old yard still owned by the family.
matamoros:
mushroomman:
Wasn’t there a Henry Nuttall somewhere, not sure if he was in Heywood or was it Shuttleworth 70s/80s.Henry Nuttall, Canal Street, Heywood. Red trucks, father of James Nuttall may be one of the brothers.
Spot on Matamoros it was Canal Street, Heywood. I am now trying to think if Ossie Ingham moved into their yard in the mid 80’s.
mushroomman:
matamoros:
mushroomman:
Wasn’t there a Henry Nuttall somewhere, not sure if he was in Heywood or was it Shuttleworth 70s/80s.Henry Nuttall, Canal Street, Heywood. Red trucks, father of James Nuttall may be one of the brothers.
Spot on Matamoros
it was Canal Street, Heywood. I am now trying to think if Ossie Ingham moved into their yard in the mid 80’s.
Part of their old yard was used by a freight forwarding company for a while but I can’t remember the name, the building may still be there but the yard across the road is now houses.
Ossie Ingham moved into a yard in Sparth Bottoms Rochdale in the eighties, I used to park my truck up there, later taken over by Rossendale transport(buses & coaches), don’t know if it is still in use.
There was Richard Nuttall in the centre of Edenfield who must have been among the very last running day cabbed 8 legger flats, these were painted red. An agency lad who used to work for us on Sundays albeit about 10 years ago, was totally clued up on outfits in the Bury area and said that particular Nuttall had called it a day sometime previously and whoever was in charge had gone back farming. That may ring true as my long gone dad who had a cattle wagon (carrying for himself on the old F licence) said he knew them.
This is the Nuttalls from Edenfield boden.I called in in 2012 and he had 5 or 6 motors parked up in his compound and a couple of weeks after I had taken photos he had got rid of them all.
matamoros:
mushroomman:
matamoros:
mushroomman:
Wasn’t there a Henry Nuttall somewhere, not sure if he was in Heywood or was it Shuttleworth 70s/80s.Henry Nuttall, Canal Street, Heywood. Red trucks, father of James Nuttall may be one of the brothers.
Spot on Matamoros
it was Canal Street, Heywood. I am now trying to think if Ossie Ingham moved into their yard in the mid 80’s.
Part of their old yard was used by a freight forwarding company for a while but I can’t remember the name, the building may still be there but the yard across the road is now houses.
Ossie Ingham moved into a yard in Sparth Bottoms Rochdale in the eighties, I used to park my truck up there, later taken over by Rossendale transport(buses & coaches), don’t know if it is still in use.
I had forgotten all about that freight forwarding company who moved into Nuttall’s old yard on Canal Street which I delivered to on a few occasions roundabout the late eighties/early nineties. After a couple of hours of racking my brain cell the only name that I can come up with is Kestrel Freight.
It was Harry Nuttall at Canal St. Heywood, basic general haulage firm that had been around quite a long time until closure in the early 80’s I think it was? I knew a few lads on there in the 70’s when they used to park up on the ‘Ramp’ in Bishopgate along with a lot of other lads from that North Manchester area. Ossie Ingham did move up to Canal St from Newton Heath possibly around 86? I was back on for him in 87 along with Dave Shawcross, one of mushrooman’s mate’s from Dow Freight along with Lee RIP. Ingham’s moved down to Rochdale around 1990 and I did some subby work for him on OOCL spot work. It wasn’t so long after that that they shut up shop, liquidated everything and retired, think they settled all their debt’s. 5/6 yrs ago I was trying to look up Ralph Ingham, Ossie’s son, who had run the job for a long time but was very saddened to find out he had passed away from cancer aged 57 and Ossie had passed away a month later than him aged 84 RIP Ralph & Ossie good guys, enjoyed my time there.
Regards
Dave Penn;
I didn’t know that Ingham’s had been at Canal Street, thought they had moved to Rochdale direct from Manchester, it would have been around 1990 when I was parking there, difficult to remember exact dates, tempus fugit’s and all that.
Mushroomman, I think the freight forwarders at Canal Street were called Kestrel Freight, the name rings a bell anyway. I delivered groupage into there and loaded a few containers probably in the late 90,s.
Hi Dave, it’s good to hear from you again. It seems a bit more than a coincidence to hear from you right now as Dave Shawcross contacted me three weeks ago. He is going to Malta for his holidays this year and he was asking me if I knew where Lee Marland was buried in Malta where he died while he was on holidays, as Dave and his wife would like to visit Lee’s grave. Can you remember if Lee was still driving for Ossie Ingham when he died and if he had reached his 50th birthday. I have just remembered another one of Ozzies old drivers Danny Petley, it was Danny who told me that Ozzie was moving from Newton Heath into Nuttall’s old yard on Canal Street, like you say it must of been about 1986/7.
Regards Steve.
Stanfield:
This is the Nuttalls from Edenfield boden.I called in in 2012 and he had 5 or 6 motors parked up in his compound and a couple of weeks after I had taken photos he had got rid of them all.0
Richard ran out of Trinity paper mill at the bottom of Peel Brow at Holcombe , in the `70s he had a Leyland 6 wheeler ergo Retriever? and a 6 wheeler A series ERF , he also had a couple of B series 8 wheelers i would think the unit would have been his last motor , the mill has now been demolished
Hi Steve, great to be in touch again, I’ve really spent more time lurking and reading some of the brilliant threads on this forum but I really haven’t contributed that much. When I went back to Ingham’s in 87 they had doubled in size and although I heard about Lee’s death, I’ve got a feeling it happened just as I started back and only a handful of the lads from Newton Heath, whom I knew, had moved up to Heywood and I didn’t know anymore than that so I’m sorry I don’t have any answers to your questions. I hope Dave S. & wifey are able to find out something more in Malta and are able to pay their respects, I’m sure it will be something they will feel good about doing.
Little Danny! I sure remember him always on the go, thought he was on speed or over caffeineated !!! AFAIR he was lodging with one of Dow’s driver’s in Middleton when his marriage broke up and Inghams were still in NH. I do remember him leaving OI’s and going on for an owner driver/small co; where he was driving a green Sedd/Atk 400 with a home made sleeper shelf tacked on the back
I really can’t remember whether he was back on for OI’s when they moved to Heywood ?
Good to catch up Steve,
Regards
Dave Penn;
Hi Dave, when Dow Freight finished on the Friday morning I phoned my brother up to see if he knew if there were any jobs going in the area. He told me that he had passed James Nuttalls yard in Castleton that morning and they had a fairly new E.R.F. sleeper cab parked up outside and he had also noticed it a couple of days before. I phoned them up on the Friday afternoon and they asked me to come for an interview on the Saturday morning at 10 a.m. After an half hour interview and a quick drive around the block they asked me if I could start at 6 a.m. on Monday morning and did I know anybody else who was after a job. I phoned Dave Shawcross from Nuttalls office and they asked him if he would come straight down for an interview and so on the Monday morning we both left their yard with me going down to London and Dave going up to Scotland. We both had an old E.R.F. day cab each and the sleeper cab that had been on display was now missing. Part of the pay scheme included how many trailers you loaded and tipped and how many miles you had travelled, we both got back to the yard on the Friday evening and were told that we had to start at 1 a.m. Monday morning as they didn’t like to pay double time for running on a Sunday. So I gave them a weeks notice as somebody had already offered me another job.
I then started working with a lad who had also worked for James Nuttalls for a couple of months and he told me that one day he was flying along a country lane towards Aberdeen and a copper jumped out from in front of a car which was parked in a lay-by. Barry said that it must of took him at least 200 yards to come to a halt and the copper chased after him. The copper said (z.b.) me driver what have you got on a load of Mintoes Barry just stood there grinning thinking he is going to book me for speeding. Then the copper said can you give me a lift into Aberdeen, my car has just broken down and I am late for work and so Barry took him to the cop shop.
The first time that I met Lee was when he was driving for B.R.S. at Cheetham Hill in the mid 70’s as we used to drink in the same local pub. He had his own house in Middleton and one day he was on his way to Dover to ship out when he stopped at one of the services on the M1 where he met Danny who he had not seen for several years. Danny as you say was going through a divorce and was living in his cab and Lee felt sorry for him, so Lee being Lee wrote down his address and gave Danny his front door key and said I shall be back in three weeks, make yourself at home. This must of been about 1985ish as Danny was still there two years later when Dow finished and Danny got Lee a job at Inghams just before they moved into Harry Nuttalls old yard in Canal Street, Heywood.
Regards Steve.