Barry Beavis has now lost his Supreme Court appeal today. The lords have now issued the judgement and the new “Case Law” over rules the normal consumer protection laws and now these cowboys have Carte Blanche to “Fine” people left right and centre.
The smaller courts will now not accept the usual defences that the amount is not a Genuine pre-estimate of loss and will issue a judgement in favour of the Private parking scumbags.
Harry Monk… Watch out 
It was only a matter of time!
trubster:
Barry Beavis has now lost his Supreme Court appeal today. The lords have now issued the judgement and the new “Case Law” over rules the normal consumer protection laws and now these cowboys have Carte Blanche to “Fine” people left right and centre.The smaller courts will now not accept the usual defences that the amount is not a Genuine pre-estimate of loss and will issue a judgement in favour of the Private parking scumbags.
Harry Monk… Watch out
It is a bad day for the consumer, and it’s not just about parking. A restaurant now has the right to “fine” a customer £100 for spilling a glass of wine on a tablecloth for example even though it might only cost pennies to launder.
Perhaps I should put a sign on my truck saying “Customer, if you take longer than 60 minutes to tip my trailer, you agree to pay me £5,000”. Because I would now be able to enforce that.
In the meantime, all of the cases I have fought have already been upheld by POPLA and these decisions cannot be reversed.
Before anyone jumps down me throat i’m on no-ones side here, something like this was inevitable, once the threat of clamping was removed then the only way for landlords (owners of private dwellings with parking?) to prevent a free for all was by a parking charge to be worth taking to court.
A local Morrisons used to charge £1 on their meters reclaimable instore but the meters packed up and then parking was free, helpfully people working in the town used it as a free car park all day hence if you wanted to shop there you would have hells own job to find a space, just recently they’ve put ANPR in so its now still free but for about 2 hours only then an auto charge applies, still pretty decent of them cos you have time to shop at the store and do most things you need in the town, but its stopped the ■■■■ taking.
As always its the ■■■■ takers on both sides who spoil it for everyone, the person who takes the ■■■■ by parking indiscriminately is just as much a bully as the parking ■■■■’s who rip the genuinely innocent off.
thats me bolloxed then
scotstrucker:
thats me bolloxed then
Not if you live in Scotland
They can only claim from the “Driver” in Scotland, If you don’t tell them, they dont know who the driver is and end of story.
In England and Wales, the Protection of Freedoms act 2012 holds the keeper of the vehicle liable if the driver is not identified.
The scots decided not to enact this legislation… wise choice (For once)…
Juddian:
Before anyone jumps down me throat i’m on no-ones side here, something like this was inevitable, once the threat of clamping was removed then the only way for landlords (owners of private dwellings with parking?) to prevent a free for all was by a parking charge to be worth taking to court.A local Morrisons used to charge £1 on their meters reclaimable instore but the meters packed up and then parking was free, helpfully people working in the town used it as a free car park all day hence if you wanted to shop there you would have hells own job to find a space, just recently they’ve put ANPR in so its now still free but for about 2 hours only then an auto charge applies, still pretty decent of them cos you have time to shop at the store and do most things you need in the town, but its stopped the ■■■■ taking.
As always its the ■■■■ takers on both sides who spoil it for everyone, the person who takes the ■■■■ by parking indiscriminately is just as much a bully as the parking ■■■■’s who rip the genuinely innocent off.
kettering?
cause its a heck of a lot easier to park and actually shop there now
tonyj105:
Juddian:
Before anyone jumps down me throat i’m on no-ones side here, something like this was inevitable, once the threat of clamping was removed then the only way for landlords (owners of private dwellings with parking?) to prevent a free for all was by a parking charge to be worth taking to court.A local Morrisons used to charge £1 on their meters reclaimable instore but the meters packed up and then parking was free, helpfully people working in the town used it as a free car park all day hence if you wanted to shop there you would have hells own job to find a space, just recently they’ve put ANPR in so its now still free but for about 2 hours only then an auto charge applies, still pretty decent of them cos you have time to shop at the store and do most things you need in the town, but its stopped the ■■■■ taking.
As always its the ■■■■ takers on both sides who spoil it for everyone, the person who takes the ■■■■ by parking indiscriminately is just as much a bully as the parking ■■■■’s who rip the genuinely innocent off.
kettering?
cause its a heck of a lot easier to park and actually shop there now
Yup, you had a job to find a place before, i think they’ve gone about this quite well, still neighbourly, just the ■■■■ takers affected.
A restaurant now has the right to “fine” a customer £100 for spilling a glass of wine on a tablecloth for example even though it might only cost pennies to launder.
Possibly so, Harry. But as I understand it they would have to put up clear signs warning if this first. I can’t see many customers going in.
Likewise your placard on the truck, Surely that would depend on who you are contracted to, the supplier or the customer.
You may have a case if contracted to the supplier and you have notified him of your penalty charge, but most customers would simply refuse delivery and tell the supplier to send a more accommodating delivery company.
The issue with paid for parking is that in many cases there is simply no option of a more accommodating parking supplier. If alternatives were available not many would overstay their free parking.
trubster:
scotstrucker:
thats me bolloxed thenNot if you live in Scotland
They can only claim from the “Driver” in Scotland, If you don’t tell them, they dont know who the driver is and end of story.
In England and Wales, the Protection of Freedoms act 2012 holds the keeper of the vehicle liable if the driver is not identified.
The scots decided not to enact this legislation… wise choice (For once)…
i stay in south yorkshire now 