kr79:
So where does your captain of industry experience come in to it with you been right and everyone else been wrong then.
If air freight rates doubled and someone needed to get a part from Germany that was stopping an oil rig in Aberdeen from production you could do it for free in a truck and they would still chooses air freight as the rig been down is costing thousands of dollars an hour to be not working.
Trust me the average next day delivery airfreight load won’t have an oil rig part that has to be there yesterday on board.I’m just waiting for a description as to how that urgent shipment,exactly as described by muckles,gets delivered on time by the average airfreight operation.The way I read it the part broke just before lunchtime.The call was sent through to the parts department at head office in Germany.It was then immediately taken from the warehouse and rushed to the airport where a Boeing airfreighter was already sitting crewed up with it’s engines idling waiting to take it to Scotland in time for the workers to get back from lunch.
kr79:
So where does your captain of industry experience come in to it with you been right and everyone else been wrong then.
If air freight rates doubled and someone needed to get a part from Germany that was stopping an oil rig in Aberdeen from production you could do it for free in a truck and they would still chooses air freight as the rig been down is costing thousands of dollars an hour to be not working.
Trust me the average next day delivery airfreight load won’t have an oil rig part that has to be there yesterday on board.I’m just waiting for a description as to how that urgent shipment,exactly as described by muckles,gets delivered on time by the average airfreight operation.The way I read it the part broke just before lunchtime.The call was sent through to the parts department at head office in Germany.It was then immediately taken from the warehouse and rushed to the airport where a Boeing airfreighter was already sitting crewed up with it’s engines idling waiting to take it to Scotland in time for the workers to get back from lunch.
No agreed, but there is also the scheduled next day deliveries that is going further than a truck can take during the night.
Again if the customer wasn’t worried about getting it the next day they wouldn’t pay the premium to have it Air Freighted, but some customers, including me sometimes want the stuff there before lunch the next day and we realise we have to pay for it.
kr79:
Road transport is ■■■■ efficient and has its place but its not the answer to every customers needs.
I know but it’s not as black and white as that and the transport market is a continuously changing and evolving business with customers/freight transport service providers switching between modes and service types for many different reasons often driven by a ‘combination’ of the bottom line and the best possible service level for the price.It’s not always,if often,a case of service levels and times being everything and rates being no object and it’s not unusual for customers/freight transport service providers to compromise either criterea to create a better balance between service levels and rates.Especially as,in this case,if the road transport industry were to push for a fairer fuel taxation policy,which doesn’t apply punitive taxation on existing and potential road transport customers while effectively applying none at all on air freight or rail freight customers/freight service providers.
From a truck driver’s point of view,in regards to a sustainable future in the job,it (should be) all about the issue of the road transport industry needing to take as much market share of the transport market as is possible.Just as is the case for any other type of worker in any other type of industry in which competitiveness and taking market share from competitors is the key to survival.Which in the case of the road transport industry will obviouly need a much more level playing field,in regard to fair competition,between the different modes and relative to it’s competitors,than it has at present.
The fact is continuing with the status quo as it exists at present really isn’t an option. Unless you’re a freight train driver or a pilot employed in european airfreight operations.
Carryfast:
I know but it’s not as black and white as that and the transport market is a continuously changing and evolving business with customers/freight transport service providers switching between modes and service types for many different reasons often driven by a ‘combination’ of the bottom line and the best possible service level for the price.It’s not always,if often,a case of service levels and times being everything and rates being no object and it’s not unusual for customers/freight transport service providers to compromise either criterea to create a better balance between service levels and rates.Especially as,in this case,if the road transport industry were to push for a fairer fuel taxation policy,which doesn’t apply punitive taxation on existing and potential road transport customers while effectively applying none at all on air freight or rail freight customers/freight service providers.
From a truck driver’s point of view,in regards to a sustainable future in the job,it (should be) all about the issue of the road transport industry needing to take as much market share of the transport market as is possible.Just as is the case for any other type of worker in any other type of industry in which competitiveness and taking market share from competitors is the key to survival.Which in the case of the road transport industry will obviouly need a much more level playing field,in regard to fair competition,between the different modes and relative to it’s competitors,than it has at present.
The fact is continuing with the status quo as it exists at present really isn’t an option. Unless you’re a freight train driver or a pilot employed in european airfreight operations.
Probably about the first thing you’ve said that makes sense, the transport market will change for many reasons.
But it’s not all one way with Freight coming off the road onto other modes.
This is taken from the report you put a link to:
Air freight by road
1.21 Throughout Europe, “air freight” trucks supplement air logistics systems and their dramatic increase in use over the last five years has contributed to a decline in scheduled freight carried by air. Between 2002 and 2007, weekly truckflight frequencies offered by scheduled airlines grew from 3,870 to 11,497 per week,
Carryfast:
I know but it’s not as black and white as that and the transport market is a continuously changing and evolving business with customers/freight transport service providers switching between modes and service types for many different reasons often driven by a ‘combination’ of the bottom line and the best possible service level for the price.It’s not always,if often,a case of service levels and times being everything and rates being no object and it’s not unusual for customers/freight transport service providers to compromise either criterea to create a better balance between service levels and rates.Especially as,in this case,if the road transport industry were to push for a fairer fuel taxation policy,which doesn’t apply punitive taxation on existing and potential road transport customers while effectively applying none at all on air freight or rail freight customers/freight service providers.
From a truck driver’s point of view,in regards to a sustainable future in the job,it (should be) all about the issue of the road transport industry needing to take as much market share of the transport market as is possible.Just as is the case for any other type of worker in any other type of industry in which competitiveness and taking market share from competitors is the key to survival.Which in the case of the road transport industry will obviouly need a much more level playing field,in regard to fair competition,between the different modes and relative to it’s competitors,than it has at present.
The fact is continuing with the status quo as it exists at present really isn’t an option. Unless you’re a freight train driver or a pilot employed in european airfreight operations.
Probably about the first thing you’ve said that makes sense, the transport market will change for many reasons.
But it’s not all one way with Freight coming off the road onto other modes.
This is taken from the report you put a link to:
Air freight by road
1.21 Throughout Europe, “air freight” trucks supplement air logistics systems and their dramatic increase in use over the last five years has contributed to a decline in scheduled freight carried by air. Between 2002 and 2007, weekly truckflight frequencies offered by scheduled airlines grew from 3,870 to 11,497 per week,
Exactly which is one of the reasons why I’m saying that equalisation of fuel taxation,between the different modes,would probably result in the type of re alignment in which we’d see a lot more opportunities for road to take a lot more freight from air because the distances over which aircraft cease to be an economic/worthwhile form of transport for many customers would increase.
While in the case of rail frieght the balance would shift more in favour of road transport type service levels as road fuel costs,relative to rail,decrease especially if LHV’s are finally allowed on the road together with equalisation of fuel taxation with rail freight.In which case the increased tonne/mile per gallon fuel efficiency of trucks together with road transport service levels would create a totally different trading environment concerning the choice between road v rail.
Which just leaves the issue of if only the road transport industry’s workforce was as supportive of all that as the workforce of those other modes would be in opposing the idea and the question as to why anyone in the road transport industry would wish the current status quo to continue.
is the head fish fryer down the chippy overly concerned when a fancy restaurant opens up a few doors down? not nearly as much as when a new chippy opens a few doors the other way
your main competition is from the people in the same sector as yourself
stevieboy308:
is the head fish fryer down the chippy overly concerned when a fancy restaurant opens up a few doors down? not nearly as much as when a new chippy opens a few doors the other way
your main competition is from the people in the same sector as yourself
In this case we’re not talking about the market for chippies we’re talking about the freight transport market as a whole.All that matters then is that whatever mode you happen to be working in goes out there and takes as much of a market share of that market as is possible.That applies wether you’re a freight train driver,air freight pilot,or a truck driver.
If you’re a truck driver the object of the excercise is if will fit on a truck and it can possibly go by truck then make sure it goes by truck not by train or by plane.Which is exactly how those involved in those other modes would see it.Generally in any industry loss of market share translates into decline of that industry.Simples.
