I am probably being a bit stupid here!
I am currently in the Army and leaving this year. I have my C and C+E licenses but obviously no CPC. All of the information I can find about Initial CPC relates to passing your HGV test at the same time so I am not really sure what I need to do to get my CPC.
I know I could find the answer by ringing a training provider but I don’t find out till May when I am leaving the Army.
Many Thanks
You will probably find it easier to do the periodic 35 hours. When did you pass cat B and then C?
If you passed the HGV tests since September 10th 2009 you will need to do mods 2 and 4 before you can drive HGVs commercially.
The exception to this is if you passed the car test before January 1st 1997, in that case you would have had cat C1 on your licence when the DCPC (Driver CPC) started in 2009 and so have grandfather rights to the DCPC, if you had grandfather rights to the DCPC you can choose whether to do the initial driver CPC mods 2 and 4 or the 35 hours periodic training.
So the question has to be did you pass the car test before 1997 ?
I passed my C and C+E in August 2009. I thought that you only had 5 years to use the acquired rights rule?
I have read through pages and pages on the internet and it appears to be as clear as mud
Cfnteabag:
I passed my C and C+E in August 2009. I thought that you only had 5 years to use the acquired rights rule?
Hi mate,
What you’ve written means that you’re already ‘in the system,’ so all you need to do to drive commercially once you’ve left the army is to get 35hrs periodic DCPC.
When you do your resettlement courses, (such as ADR, FLT and HIAB) you can gain the necessary 35hrs for no extra effort.
For now, any driving you do in the army doesn’t count as commercial, so you can rest easy on that score.
Cfnteabag:
I passed my C and C+E in August 2009. I thought that you only had 5 years to use the acquired rights rule?
As you had HGV entitlement before the DCPC started you had acquired rights which ran out in September 2014, 5 years after the DCPC started, having acquired rights means that you do not have to do the initial Driver CPC.
As you probably know in order to keep your DCPC up-to date you have to do 35 hours periodic training every 5 years.
However as you have not completed the first 35 hours periodic training you now have a choice, you can do the 35 hours periodic training or do mods 2 and 4 of the initial Driver CPC.
The difference:
If you chose to go for the periodic training there are different courses available, but it’s up-to you which you do, unless you intend to do some specialised courses like first aid or ADR ec’t I’d go for the cheapest courses you can find locally, I don’t see the point of paying up-to £100 when you can get the same courses for less than £60 and in some cases for as little as £40, but that’s your choice.
Anyway what you have to decide first is whether you want to do the initial DCPC mods 2 and 4 or the 35 hours periodic training.
Thats brilliant thank you very much, I have my hiab license already but it appears that some companies want this donein the last 5 years so I might have to do that again anyway.
I shouldn’t have to pay for any of my courses as they will be covered by my resettlement. I do prefer the sound of no pass or fail though!
Id already gained my CPC through Mods 2 & 4 last year but upon booking my C+E my training provider PSTT gave me 35 hours of CPC as well. I went along on the new driver development course and still found it invaluable. Day 1 was Drivers Hours and use of the Tachograph and this confimred so of the info I already knew and tought me a few extra bits. All CPC providers offer this so you may find this useful. The next 4 days were the driver development part and really got us all talking and looking at applying the rules to real life scenarios. I can honestly say everyone made mistakes and everyone learned something so I can only reccommend that you go into the CPC with an open mind and although it is a lot to take in you will be better off for it.
Cfnteabag:
I shouldn’t have to pay for any of my courses as they will be covered by my resettlement. I do prefer the sound of no pass or fail though!
In that case it would be worth looking into courses such as ADR, FLT, First Aid ec’t.
The governing body of the Driver CPC is JAUPT and any course you do needs to be JAUPT approved in order for it to add hours to your required 35 hours periodic training, for instance I think an ADR course can get you something like 21 hours towards the required 35 hours periodic training.
So as dieseldave said doing these specialised courses can not only get you more qualifications but add hours towards the 35 hours periodic training at the same time, if you decide to go this route check that any course you choose is JAUPT approved so it will count towards the DCPC periodic training hours.