If you find yourself on a journey that is outside of the EU, and AETR countries. Then the rules state that you must abide by the tachograph rules of that country.
I have two questions:
Places like Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan will calm down eventually, They will need all manner of equipment.
There could be huge opportunities there one day.
limeyphil:
If you find yourself on a journey that is outside of the EU, and AETR countries. Then the rules state that you must abide by the tachograph rules of that country.
I have two questions:
- where do you find out what the rules are?
- If they don’t have any rules, Then what?
Places like Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan will calm down eventually, They will need all manner of equipment.
There could be huge opportunities there one day.
Or it could just as easily ( more likely ) go from very bad now to much worse then.In which case things could get a bit difficult with the Iraqi or Syrian version of VOSA let alone all the other risks if you’re driving a Brit registered wagon anywhere past the Turkish border.Although it’s got to be running through Afghan into Pakistan with the Star of David hanging in the window to get the best adrenalin rush. 
limeyphil:
I have two questions:
- where do you find out what the rules are?
In general, any country with tachograph rules models them on eu tachograph rules. AETR is basically identical to eu.
limeyphil:
2) If they don’t have any rules, Then what?
Marlboro. 
Harry Monk:
limeyphil:
I have two questions:
- where do you find out what the rules are?
In general, any country with tachograph rules models them on eu tachograph rules. AETR is basically identical to eu.
limeyphil:
2) If they don’t have any rules, Then what?Marlboro.
So that’s where all those drivers who’ve been kidnapped or blown up by suicide bombers have gone wrong.
Cigarettes have always been the currency of the officials in poor countries. probably worth stocking up for the british police then.
But seriously, what’s the score if you drive through Iraq? Stick to the EU/AETR regs? Park between the IEDs. or just beyond the minefield to stay legal? Crack on for a 20 hour drive and show it on your tacho? or just put the sticky nut on and show no record at all?
The main financial concern for me would be getting pulled in say France or Spain a few weeks later.
limeyphil:
Cigarettes have always been the currency of the officials in poor countries. probably worth stocking up for the british police then.
But seriously, what’s the score if you drive through Iraq? Stick to the EU/AETR regs? Park between the IEDs. or just beyond the minefield to stay legal? Crack on for a 20 hour drive and show it on your tacho? or just put the sticky nut on and show no record at all?
The main financial concern for me would be getting pulled in say France or Spain a few weeks later.
I dont really think that this is a problem you are going to be needing to give to much thought is it Phillip
Easter-Star:
limeyphil:
Cigarettes have always been the currency of the officials in poor countries. probably worth stocking up for the british police then.
But seriously, what’s the score if you drive through Iraq? Stick to the EU/AETR regs? Park between the IEDs. or just beyond the minefield to stay legal? Crack on for a 20 hour drive and show it on your tacho? or just put the sticky nut on and show no record at all?
The main financial concern for me would be getting pulled in say France or Spain a few weeks later.I dont really think that this is a problem you are going to be needing to give to much thought is it Phillip
Nothing wrong with forward planning.
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.
Cold Up North:
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.
That’s exactly what i’d do, But it’s nice to know if you’re breaking the law. 
Slightly off topic. Some years ago there were a few drivers that i worked with that would put the wire on, pull fuses etc. I would be chatting with them, and then ask why they’d done what they did. Obviously they wanted to get the job done and parked up where they wanted. The trouble is, most of the time they’d have been legal anyway. They just didn’t know more than the basics.
I’ve run up from spain with only a basic grasp of the French lorry ban. I really pushed on with a tilt load of onions. It wasn’t until i checked on here that i found out i could have done the job completely legal, I was ok to run through the ban. 
limeyphil:
Cold Up North:
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.That’s exactly what i’d do, But it’s nice to know if you’re breaking the law.
Exactly how fast were you thinking of going after you’ve got past Turkey.
The only real problem about driving in countries without any drivers hours regulations such as Morrocco, Iceland and Gibraltar is when you return to the E.U.
I am in and out of Gibraltar on a regular basis and could if I wished drive around there without a card to my hearts content as there are no rules, other than normal driving laws similar to those in the UK. But what happens when I am stopped by the Guardia Civil Trafico when Ive crossed back into Spain and they want to know where all the missing kilometres/hours have gone and why I was driving without a card in? The answer is that they issue an eye watering fine the size of a small African nation.
Carryfast:
limeyphil:
Cold Up North:
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.That’s exactly what i’d do, But it’s nice to know if you’re breaking the law.
Exactly how fast were you thinking of going after you’ve got past Turkey.
a steady 80mph is a nice number, just depends on the scenery.
limeyphil:
Carryfast:
limeyphil:
Cold Up North:
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.That’s exactly what i’d do, But it’s nice to know if you’re breaking the law.
Exactly how fast were you thinking of going after you’ve got past Turkey.
a steady 80mph is a nice number, just depends on the scenery.
Never knew a Bedford Rascal could do 80 
limeyphil:
Carryfast:
limeyphil:
Cold Up North:
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.That’s exactly what i’d do, But it’s nice to know if you’re breaking the law.
Exactly how fast were you thinking of going after you’ve got past Turkey.
a steady 80mph is a nice number, just depends on the scenery.
This is more like the reality though and I don’t think that it would have made much difference if they’d have been doing 90 mph.
The video is a bit like the topic itself a real laugh at the start and then the reality hits home later and the end which is best stopped before that point. 
billybigrig:
limeyphil:
Carryfast:
limeyphil:
Cold Up North:
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.That’s exactly what i’d do, But it’s nice to know if you’re breaking the law.
Exactly how fast were you thinking of going after you’ve got past Turkey.
a steady 80mph is a nice number, just depends on the scenery.
Never knew a Bedford Rascal could do 80
No, But this Rascal can.
Carryfast:
limeyphil:
Carryfast:
limeyphil:
Cold Up North:
Once past Turkey, put your foot down and keep it there.That’s exactly what i’d do, But it’s nice to know if you’re breaking the law.
Exactly how fast were you thinking of going after you’ve got past Turkey.
a steady 80mph is a nice number, just depends on the scenery.
This is more like the reality though
The video is a bit like the topic itself a real laugh at the start and then the reality hits home later and the end which is best stopped before that point.
Like i said. When things calm down.