for 1.44 per hours,not one drivers don start work.i think NB do another fault…if they got company in Rumania(but in Rumania national ninimum wages…)so nb PAY JUST 1,44 IN DOKUMEnT ,BUT ANOTHER MONEY PAY WITH OUT DOKUMENT,SO all tax dedicted just from this 1.44 p/h but another money with out tax.same do to many company in world
I would hazard a guess and say that the Romanians get some kind of day rate / weekly salary in accordance with their own country and then when divided by the hours worked etc comes to this €1.44 per hour in the absolute worst case scenario.
i think all can be full legaly.depend to whick NB company this drivers have contract.NB hava company ih Rumania.if drivers have kontract for Rumanian NB branch,so all taxes,wages depend from Rumanian govement rules.it is not depend from what country drivers start work.
Andrejs:
i think all can be full legaly.depend to whick NB company this drivers have contract.NB hava company ih Rumania.if drivers have kontract for Rumanian NB branch,so all taxes,wages depend from Rumanian govement rules.it is not depend from what country drivers start work.
So all British workers can be employed through an agency based in the lowest tax country they can find and just pay local income tax and national insurance where the agency is based not where the workers are based.The money saved should pay for a decent private medical insurance so they won’t need the NHS anyway 
Harry Monk:
Well done to the French border authorities. It may suit the short-term interests of ND directors but in the longer term, what good will it do for France when indigenous people earning a reasonable, though not fantastic, wage are replaced with eastern Europeans earning €1.44 an hour?I know Carryfast gets pilloried on here for his views but he really does seem to be one of the few people who understand “Fordism”, the economic theology of Henry Ford who understood that if you only pay your assembly line workers a subsistence wage, then they won’t be going out and buying a Ford car.
The problem is that it can’t work under the global free market economy Harry because by definition it provides for the free movement of the cheapest labour available and it’s no good creating growth in the domestic economy which then gets spent on creating an even bigger trade deficit because of free entry of cheap imports.While the idea of growth based on exports to ‘developing countries’ is another red herring because those countries have got nothing we need so we’re effectively giving them Rolls Royces in exchange for bicycles.
The global free market supporters would rather break the domestic economy than admit that they are wrong which is about where we’re heading now.
The fact is Ford (or GM) didn’t get where they were in the 1960’s by trying to compete or operate in a global free market economy.It’s all about the strength of the domestic economy and keeping all the wealth made in it at home to sustain it and grow it.
Next we’ll be seeing the Nobby Credit card!
“Just the card for making up the difference between today’s cost of living, and your poor pay!” 
not one driver don t start work for 1.40 euro.just by dokument.but how many money was paid by cash nobody know
I can see this whole euro and EEC experiment turning increasingly nasty and going very very wrong.
I think Adolf,sorry Angela Merkel has ideas for all these bailed out countries and maybe a few others to bow down to her and we know where that got one of her fellow leaders the last time!!
I too have sneaky suspicions about the Germans.
I think she is building the fourth reich but been a bit more subtle than Adolfs method of invading Poland.
kr79:
I think she is building the fourth reich but been a bit more subtle than Adolfs method of invading Poland.
Ve haf vays of making you pay.
Angela Merkel arrives at Warsaw airport.
“Name?” says the immigration officer.
“Angela Merkel” says she.
“Occupation?” says the immigration officer.
“No” she says. “Just staying for the weekend”.
Carryfast:
kr79:
I think she is building the fourth reich but been a bit more subtle than Adolfs method of invading Poland.
Ve haf vays of making you pay.
Not to wide if the mark that.
This is what ■■■■■■ me off about being in the eu. Our government pick and choose which bits they want for their own good. Why is the nmw in France over 20% higher than here. If it’s not a “common market” then what’s the point? All we’re doing is giving our membership money to subsidise the low wages in eastern Europe, when we could actually do with the subsidies ourselves 
Angela Merkel’s views of the other European states are similar to English views of Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland in particular.
In other words, she’d rather be shot of all the “losers” in the union outright, and wouldn’t mind a full re-unification with Frankreich after it had been stripped from the Third Reich by the allies!
In the UK, it has often been said that England would be better off on it’s own whilst the price of Brent Crude in particular is cheap. As we all know, that isn’t the case, so there’s no need for us to encourage Scotland to leave the Union - for the time being.
Scotland becoming independent would mean England buying Brent from them, since we have pretty much none this far south, whilst we’d get out of paying their huge benefits bill. Swings and Roundabouts as always. 
Winseer:
Angela Merkel’s views of the other European states are similar to English views of Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland in particular.In other words, she’d rather be shot of all the “losers” in the union outright, and wouldn’t mind a full re-unification with Frankreich after it had been stripped from the Third Reich by the allies!
In the UK, it has often been said that England would be better off on it’s own whilst the price of Brent Crude in particular is cheap. As we all know, that isn’t the case, so there’s no need for us to encourage Scotland to leave the Union - for the time being.
Scotland becoming independent would mean England buying Brent from them, since we have pretty much none this far south, whilst we’d get out of paying their huge benefits bill. Swings and Roundabouts as always.
The fact is the oil is running out fast anyway and it’s the oil companies that have the rights to the oil in the fields not the Scottish because of the original contracts as made at the time .
That argument would only stand if the oil fields were subject to the type of contract which they should have been at the start.Which is why the stuff has never been sold any cheaper here than other countries without it and often we pay even more for our own oil at the pump than buyers in places like Luxembourg etc.
All the Scottish could do now would be to impose higher levels of tax on what the oil companies are taking out.In which case it becomes economically unviable and the oil companies walk away.
But if the Germans really thought that they’d be better off without ‘the losers’ all they need to do is leave the EU.The zb’s don’t want to do that because they know that all the money which the Brits pay into the EU goes into the losers’ pockets to help pay for German goods bought by those ‘losers’.
The Germans need to stop treating the Euro like it is pegged to the Deutschmark. The ECB needs to stop acting like its some superbank of Germany only, thus supporting the strong euro policy that more than anything else, is responsible for most of the crap in Euroland at this time. A massive ECB backed QE programme and the implementation of the Eurobonds talked of recently will reverse that policy - but will it happen?
Prices everywhere at present are too damned expensive, whilst wages are still stagnating. It isn’t a question of who leaves the Euro and who does not, but more who adopted the currency in the first place! the “losers” stood to gain the most by their thinking, because they all thought they’d be getting euro-high wages whilst continuing to pay their old local costs of living. In fact, it has worked the other way around instead. The next driver to pass you on most euro routes will not be Danish, Scandinavian, and other countries with good standards of living. It’ll be from countries paying their drivers less than £200pw to go anywhere else in the european union, thus putting better paid drivers under in those countries. Meanwhile, the costs of living rise, but presumably not so much for those in eastern europe, otherwise people would be chucking their jobs in because £200pw doesn’t pay the bills. I suspect the typical eastern European who lives and works in their own country ISN’T laden with credit card debt, and has a lower cost of living locally than we do in western europe. The UK has it better than many countries, because we don’t use that damned manipulated currency, which has slowed the widening rate between the cost of living and wages occuring in so many other countries in the EU that DO use the Euro.
If you pour some indian ink into a bucket of water, what you get looks black, but won’t paint a page black anymore! 
That’s the situation that Germany now finds itself in. The rest of the world is demanding German inflation and better conditions for its citizens, and Germany not being used to it, is having none of it! 
A devalued Euro, A Socialist government in Germany, Hardline governments in southern Europe, and Conservative (with a large “C”) governments in Northern Europe will redress all the imbalances. In this scenario, Germany stands to lose the most actual money via debt haircuts, BUT also stand to gain the greatest in terms of “quality of life” in the process. Southern Europe will get back their high inflation local currencies which kills off the property market forever in those countries, BUT improves the tourist industries back to their former glory again. Northern Europe refuses to borrow more money to pay inflated prices for imported goods anymore, thus forcing commodity prices lower. Inflation collapses, and eventually we’ll all be better off once the cost of living has fallen below average stagnant pay levels to correct our own imbalances. A great time for people earning good money, a bad time for those hoping to get paid “interest” for doing nothing with their money. Interest rates in the G8 countries as a whole by this point will average around 0.1%, because no one has any care to borrow anymore, cannot afford it, or does not have the income from other stagnant investments to pay such fixed interest amounts.
My suggestion to everyone out there with limited funds - learn how to do without, and hold out to pay less in cash.
The crash in housing, gold, and fuel prices is yet to come. Even the fall in interest rates paid by most people has not caught up with base rates stagnant since 2008 yet, so I reckon we’ve easily got another 4 years before much difference will be seen in the economy.
Winseer:
The Germans need to stop treating the Euro like it is pegged to the Deutschmark. The ECB needs to stop acting like its some superbank of Germany only, thus supporting the strong euro policy that more than anything else, is responsible for most of the crap in Euroland at this time. A massive ECB backed QE programme and the implementation of the Eurobonds talked of recently will reverse that policy - but will it happen?Prices everywhere at present are too damned expensive, whilst wages are still stagnating. It isn’t a question of who leaves the Euro and who does not, but more who adopted the currency in the first place! the “losers” stood to gain the most by their thinking, because they all thought they’d be getting euro-high wages whilst continuing to pay their old local costs of living. In fact, it has worked the other way around instead. The next driver to pass you on most euro routes will not be Danish, Scandinavian, and other countries with good standards of living. It’ll be from countries paying their drivers less than £200pw to go anywhere else in the european union, thus putting better paid drivers under in those countries. Meanwhile, the costs of living rise, but presumably not so much for those in eastern europe, otherwise people would be chucking their jobs in because £200pw doesn’t pay the bills. I suspect the typical eastern European who lives and works in their own country ISN’T laden with credit card debt, and has a lower cost of living locally than we do in western europe. The UK has it better than many countries, because we don’t use that damned manipulated currency, which has slowed the widening rate between the cost of living and wages occuring in so many other countries in the EU that DO use the Euro.
If you pour some indian ink into a bucket of water, what you get looks black, but won’t paint a page black anymore!
That’s the situation that Germany now finds itself in. The rest of the world is demanding German inflation and better conditions for its citizens, and Germany not being used to it, is having none of it!
A devalued Euro, A Socialist government in Germany, Hardline governments in southern Europe, and Conservative (with a large “C”) governments in Northern Europe will redress all the imbalances. In this scenario, Germany stands to lose the most actual money via debt haircuts, BUT also stand to gain the greatest in terms of “quality of life” in the process. Southern Europe will get back their high inflation local currencies which kills off the property market forever in those countries, BUT improves the tourist industries back to their former glory again. Northern Europe refuses to borrow more money to pay inflated prices for imported goods anymore, thus forcing commodity prices lower. Inflation collapses, and eventually we’ll all be better off once the cost of living has fallen below average stagnant pay levels to correct our own imbalances. A great time for people earning good money, a bad time for those hoping to get paid “interest” for doing nothing with their money. Interest rates in the G8 countries as a whole by this point will average around 0.1%, because no one has any care to borrow anymore, cannot afford it, or does not have the income from other stagnant investments to pay such fixed interest amounts.
My suggestion to everyone out there with limited funds - learn how to do without, and hold out to pay less in cash.
The crash in housing, gold, and fuel prices is yet to come. Even the fall in interest rates paid by most people has not caught up with base rates stagnant since 2008 yet, so I reckon we’ve easily got another 4 years before much difference will be seen in the economy.
The flaw in the present German economy is that it’s based on exports into the global free market economy more than the strength and therefore demand in the domestic economy based on a Fordist system.It’s markets are therefore all dependent on the continuing transfer of wealth (capital and manufacturing industry) from West to East ( mainly from North America and UK to China etc ) together with EU subsidies being provided from EU funds to the poorer less industrialised countries in Southern Europe like Greece to allow them to pay for German goods which they otherwise couldn’t afford .Which is why the German economy is still able to grow although spending power,in it’s domestic market,is actually relatively weak in real terms,because of the relatively low wage levels which basing it’s wealth creation,on the global free market rather than mainly the domestic market,causes.It also explains why the UK and US economies are losing capital reserves to prop up the EU,Eastern Europe,and China all of which benefits the German economy at the expense of our own.
Which effectively means that the German economy would collapse just like all of the rest when the US and UK eventually run out of capital/wealth to transfer to those German export markets.
Unless the German plan is to switch back to a Fordist closed domestic economy in time just before that point in which case Germany will be able to name the price that it’s prepared to pay for it’s raw materials and most of what it needs to import while the US Dollar/Euro,and Pound Sterling will be worth about as much as the Greek Drachma v the DM.
The only thing that would have saved the UK economy in any case would have been it’s domestic coal reserves,the quality of it’s farm land and climate for growing it’s own food and it’s manufacturing know how v ze Germans.If only,that is,the British government hadn’t imported loads of immigrants from Asia and Africa for cheap labour which has added to the population to be fed, probably way past the point that it’s farm land can sustain,and of course it hadn’t have closed down it’s coal industry and thrown away all that manufacturing know how and capacity. 
It’s those who can sustain the best standard of living for the least amount of imports to do it who’ll win in the post global free market world and therefore it’ll probably be Australia and Canada that’ll be two of the last ones standing.
And we’ll now move this to Bullys, its better suited here. Just so people who want to read about trucks and driving don’t get caught up in lengthy tirades about how Europe is doing.