nonplussed

i fancied a change badly,now i have in the past delivered cars for a driving school, so i answered an advert and sent them my cv, lo and behold new years eve 830 2011 the company called me great cv ,can you come and see us now ,so belt and braces,best bib and tucker,im at the door of a house,house?now this job is trade plating uk ,wide pass the interview, trade plates in hand no refs nothing ,the last detail was i had to fork out fuel money for the next 10 days,also i needed to give them my credit card details need they book a train for me,hang on a minute, oh i wouldnt get reimbersed for at least 2 weeks after,now i know things r bad and the wife says im daft,needless to say im still drivibg but not as a tradeplater,for fueling i needed to have availible about 300 quid, so i do a job say 100 quid, they take 50 pc any fares comes out of my half,never knew you had to pay them to work, the idea of the job is ok but the conditions are xxxxxxxxx oh and its selfemployed, any comments please without laughing

Do not touch with a barge pole

From previous posts on trade plating it seems that it is only good if doing it part time once you have retired if bored sitting at home

Hiya Rocky,
about 18 months ago I applied to Uniloads for a car and van tradeplaters job. But after I did a bit of googling, I found lots of bad vibes about them and the industry in general.
From what you have told us, it seems to me that you would be setting yourself up to be shafted because what if the tradeplater company simply gets you to deliver 5 wagons for them and they just dont pay you and go bankrupt?
They would keep the money from the 5 jobs, you would have paid a lot of your cash out and have nothing for it, PLUS you would be about £2500 down.
Thats what it seems like to me from what you have said.
Perhaps you could have another read of your post and see if you can explain the deal a little bit more clearly.
Who pays what to who and when and how much and EXACTLY why do they need YOUR credit card details.
Shouldnt they book you a train out of their side of the money?
Couldnt you book your own train fare using your own credit card in person at the station?
How much do you trust the guys you met?
I think you have been very sensible to ask for advice on this forum as there will follow lots of ‘been there, done that’ advice coming along very soon.

Good Luck with whatever you do,
Landylad

Is this serious, you actually need to ask?

You’re paying them to work. Period.

Jobs don’t work like that, they are ment to pay YOU. :unamused:

Run, run away and don’t look back.

It’s amazing that people are this desperate to work.

There’s one born every minute.

hybrid:
Is this serious, you actually need to ask?

Run, run away and don’t look back.

There’s one born every minute.

+1

Just remind me… You are paying them to employ you … Oh and while you are at it you are giving them access to your CC details for potentially ripping you off for ever and a day.

I see they are trying to disguise it as ‘Self Employment’. It does not mean you should be a mug !

hybrid:
Is this serious, you actually need to ask?

You’re paying them to work. Period.

Jobs don’t work like that, they are ment to pay YOU. :unamused:

Run, run away and don’t look back.

It’s amazing that people are this desperate to work.

There’s one born every minute.

Hi Rocky
If there is one thing that lets this forum down, its people like the above that just love to make sarcastic remarks. Rocky asked for genuine advice, which is what this forum is about, not people taking the ■■■■.

Iv’e not ever done car deliveries on trade plates, but from what you have said i would stay well away. I know times can be hard work wise, but dont put yourself into a situation you may regret. It seems very strange that they want your credit card details etc. To me it also seems odd that its from a house. I’d have a look for reveiws of this company on the net.

All in all my personal opinion is to walk away. Theres alot of “companies” out there who have no problem with taking your money without a backwards glance.

Look at if from another point of view. If someone else posted your post on this forum, what would be your inital reaction…?

Best of luck
Ben

I’m not taking the ■■■■, some people need a shock to make them realise what they are doing is wrong.

I have a axe to grind with these parasites, not rocky, but if people like him didnt allow themselves to be walked over then they wouldnt get away with it.

If this guy has got this far and is still unsure if he should carry on then they really need a wake up call.

My advise was genuine, run away, dont look back! There are no grey area’s here.

hybrid:
I’m not taking the ■■■■, some people need a shock to make them realise what they are doing is wrong.

Perhaps giving people information first to see if they then see the realistic situation with the option of then giving the ‘shock’ treatment would be a better way to proceed

At least that way the opportunity is given to allow the other person to learn first rather than trying to ‘bully’ them into a way of thinking :bulb: :question:

Hi Rocky
lol oh just like Landylad i also applied at UNILOAD and was given the job on a phone interview ha ha in fact somewere on here there is a thread about trade plating once i did my research on this very site i sent then an Email saying thanks but nothanks … it seems they left one poor sod stranded in the highlands of Scotland at abot 2am with no busses no trains and no lift till 8 am …and there are many more stories like that on here if you search … :open_mouth: yep mate wide berth neaded on them jobs … :wink:

ROG:

hybrid:
I’m not taking the ■■■■, some people need a shock to make them realise what they are doing is wrong.

Perhaps giving people information first to see if they then see the realistic situation with the option of then giving the ‘shock’ treatment would be a better way to proceed

At least that way the opportunity is given to allow the other person to learn first rather than trying to ‘bully’ them into a way of thinking :bulb: :question:

Not in this case, there is no time. The OP can’t see the wood for the trees and appears to be actually considering this. We cannot adopt a nicey-nicey approach if we are to save him and lead him into the light. He needs a short, sharp, smack upsides the head with a very large wet fish rather than a group hug. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and in the long run it will be for the OP’s own good.

This is a standard practice in this industry by the seem of it. This is from an email I received several months ago.

We are looking for candidates to join our existing team delivering vehicles (up to but not including 7.5t) around the network of dealerships and auctions throughout the UK.

As with all our competitors you would be paid on a job by job basis usually delivering a minimum of 2 cars per day with as much as 6 days per week work available if required.

A usual day would be to find your way to the first collection, collect the vehicle, deliver it to the customer and then commute to the next collection (we try to make the distance between jobs as short as possible this will sometimes mean that you drop off and collection is from the same place).

All collection and delivery paperwork is performed through an electronic proof of delivery system so an understanding of sat-nav and mobile phone technology is essential.

In order to take advantage of the Tax system we encourage Self Employed people to apply as they can dedicate as much or as little time to this opportunity (subject to prior arrangement) and offset all travel, uniform and business costs. Our current staff find that they pay little or no tax at the end of the financial year.

It is your responsibility to commute within jobs however should we expect you to travel an unreasonable distance expenses will be given.

You will need a float to get you going of around £200 because you will have to put fuel in some of the vehicles we will then reimburse you within 7 days of receiving your invoice. All salaries are processed and paid on 30 days (i.e. 4 weeks after you perform your first job)

We provide at no cost the Barge Pole, Trade Plates, Insurance and Electronic POD’s

You can expect to earn a minimum of £250 per week up to £550, most of our drivers take home £350 per week.

Coffeeholic:

ROG:

hybrid:
I’m not taking the ■■■■, some people need a shock to make them realise what they are doing is wrong.

Perhaps giving people information first to see if they then see the realistic situation with the option of then giving the ‘shock’ treatment would be a better way to proceed

At least that way the opportunity is given to allow the other person to learn first rather than trying to ‘bully’ them into a way of thinking :bulb: :question:

Not in this case, there is no time. The OP can’t see the wood for the trees and appears to be actually considering this. We cannot adopt a nicey-nicey approach if we are to save him and lead him into the light. He needs a short, sharp, smack upsides the head with a very large wet fish rather than a group hug. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and in the long run it will be for the OP’s own good.

+1

If I saw someone walking out into a busy road and was just about to get hit by a truck i wouldn’t think ill give them a nod, wave, call and see if they fancy getting out the way at some point today.

I’d run over and try to stop it happening. Then have a chat about it the following day if they so wanted.

These jobs are unworkable, there is no point in discussion now, discuss it later. My point was to put some fire under the OPs bum… Resign and put it down to experience. Do it now.

Slightly as an aside although connected…

Is it not cheaper for the company to put it on the back of a multi car transporter rather than trade plate it

dar1976:
Slightly as an aside although connected…

Is it not cheaper for the company to put it on the back of a multi car transporter rather than trade plate it

Not when you can get foolhardy drivers paying for the fuel and train travel between jobs :stuck_out_tongue:

ladies and gentlemen,good evening,and thankyou for your comments, its seems that in my first post i may not have explained myself very well ,for that i opologise,my reason for putting up the post was to see if any other members of the forum had had any similar experiences, i have already refused the job in question, but nonplussed should have been astounded,thier company policy was that i should for the first 14 days or so from my own pocket fuel vehicules and then having handed in the reciets reimbersed 14 days later, re the credit card fiasco, i was to supply the company with my credit card details so if train travel was needed they would book it and i would use my card as payment at the station,also if i got a job valued say at 100 gb any travelling expenses would be deducted from my cut ,it was put in a different way to me but thats what it meant,but ultimately the customer would be billed any way ,that im sure would be in the price of the job before the driver gets hold of it, although ive been around the circle a few times myself im sure many of you will have been around it many more times than i, it would seem that the majority of drivers doing this type of work are employed on a self employed basis ,oh i wonder why? i would have thought that in taking on someone to do work for you that the employer would supply a float for the first 14 days or so,it may be a trust issue that they dont, so why employ you,then while i was to be on a 7 day trial then get a contract after 28 days should i have forked out 2/300 quid,had i wished i could have gotten the fuel money albeit borrow it,the credit card,oh you might be getting a couple of them you get all the points you know,these are not my words,this is the company,s owner,the questions are all there,so im sticking to my present ob and looking elsewhere,driving is a job i enjoy ,cab happy ive been accused of that many times, the idea of being somewhere different every day rocks my boat, as i have said the reason for the post was to see driver opinions re this matter ,it was a genuine post, one post tells of similar goings on therefore its not just me it may well have been that a postsaid words to the effect this company does it the other way, im of the firm belief that re driving matters ask a professional driver, again apologies for the original post

This situation has little to do with self employment…

It’s known in the trade as a scam… :smiley:

rocky racoon:
…again apologies for the original post

Paragraphs are your friend. Take a leaf out of Truckulent’s book and put some gaps in every now and then.

Any job/get rich quick/easy money/saw you coming scam that requires you to fork out your own money to shady individuals before you see any money back is probably best avoided.

Go take that money you were going to spend on fuel to the casino, whack it all on red and hope for the best. At least then you’ve got a 50/50 chance of doubling your money and it won’t take half as long.