mattsplatt:
It cost me a lot of Wonga to pass my test only to be told I have no experience,but these drivers come over and get work.It’s just not fair.
I passed in May and had three job offers in a month and I’m ■■■■! they are out there.
mattsplatt:
It cost me a lot of Wonga to pass my test only to be told I have no experience,but these drivers come over and get work.It’s just not fair.
I passed in May and had three job offers in a month and I’m ■■■■! they are out there.
D-ya not?:
Isn’t the cpc supposed to be proof of competency.
Not really, we all got on pretty well before it came in, you can’t get experience driving Big Lorry’s sitting in a classroom, you need to be actually driving them, problem is, a lot of companies won’t invest in the training. Apprentices in all trades have all but disappeared & its biting the companies in the Arse now, having to import labour from abroad, although they are starting to wake up now & are taking on youngsters. (If they can prise them away from their Playstation’s)
martinviking:
D-ya not?:
Isn’t the cpc supposed to be proof of competency.Not really, we all got on pretty well before it came in, you can’t get experience driving Big Lorry’s sitting in a classroom, you need to be actually driving them, problem is, a lot of companies won’t invest in the training. Apprentices in all trades have all but disappeared & its biting the companies in the Arse now, having to import labour from abroad, although they are starting to wake up now & are taking on youngsters. (If they can prise them away from their Playstation’s)
I would say, it is a certificate of competence, that’s probably why they added the word “competence” in the title,however in reality…it doesn’t guarantee the holder is capable of handling large vehicles.
Brings us back to the need for assessments before being allowed out the road.
We had a driver turn up last week,he didn’t speak a word of english. He could be the best LGV driver in the world,but the minimum I would expect is to speak the language,if he can’t speak it its likely he can’t read it to understand various matrix messages for diversions etc.
mjallby:
We had a driver turn up last week,he didn’t speak a word of english. He could be the best LGV driver in the world,but the minimum I would expect is to speak the language,if he can’t speak it its likely he can’t read it to understand various matrix messages for diversions etc.
I’ve driven for both the Dutch and the Belgians, I speak neither language, but it never held me back.
It’s the arrogance of the Brits, they expect everybody to speak English, even and especially when they are abroad themselves. Lucky for us a lot of them do.
I don’t believe it to be arrogance to expect an employee to speak the language of the country he works in. I would say that’s a necessity to pass on simple instructions.
I remember HGV trucks demolishing gates, ripping out fences, pushing over bollards, taking out traffic lights and trashing roller shutter doors, long before the East Europeans started driving over here. Easy to look at the world through rose tinted spectacles sometimes.
from my own personal experiences most Romanians are awful drivers at best.
however how can we check if a driver with a licence is of a suitable standard? they have the licence, will no doubt pass the tacho and general knowledge test but driving ability that’s what assessments are for.
Any driving instructor agree who driving tests, driving assestment and proffesional driving -two different side in this game.
transport bloke was saying today one of the firms who’s drivers have to do a site induction have told the company that they will have to provide a interpreter for the course ( transport bloke said they can pay for it ) ,it just makes you wonder how they will follow instructions whilst working in yard or on site if there’s a need for a interpreter for a days induction
went to DSV Gothenburg last week, got my gate number but there was a swedish-reg merc still there. so I asked him if he was going to leave so I could take his place. didn’t get anywhere in swedish, tried english - no dice
he did point me to the goods in desk, with an “ofis, ofis!” which was probably beacuse I was still holding my cmr.
once I had backed up to the ramp, it turns out that the guy unloading who works for a pallet repair company there, doesn’t speak the native language either spoke english though.
Cant see the polish test being harder than ours…it was only a shoprt while ago that poles were taking a test in a farm tractor and farm trailer…and getting in return a licence to drive artics ( our class 1 ) hence the heavy movements of poles to this fine island of ours…cos we take anyone who has a licence to drive.
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From what I gather, some, most, or all our counterparts in Eastern Europe don’t even have to do any HGV tests. It’s simply a matter of having to pay for a category to be added to your licence and your good to go. Some may have to do some basic agriculture vehicle test and that covers you to drive anything, thereafter.
After that, you can go and knock on the door’s of any western European employers and ask for a job.
I was once given a Maltese driver to show the ropes. He had no idea how to even couple a trailer up. I took him back to the office and the dispatcher just put him in a rigid and off he went.
But I think that just about explains what your asking. Are they trained to our standard-no.
Perhaps, someone could tell me that I’m wrong about what HGV licence acquisition in Eastern Europe entails?
a horse and a cart, mostly, if not all. sometimes (usually after a drought) the horse gets eaten before testing time so you have to pull the cart yourself. heavy work, let me tell you.
V40LLY:
From what I gather, some, most, or all our counterparts in Eastern Europe don’t even have to do any HGV tests. It’s simply a matter of having to pay for a category to be added to your licence and your good to go. Some may have to do some basic agriculture vehicle test and that covers you to drive anything, thereafter.
After that, you can go and knock on the door’s of any western European employers and ask for a job.
Yeh that is in fact correct. As like you, I also believe as gospel that type of driver bullcrap, that I hear all the time in rdc.s, ferries, cafes and pubs.
isn’t it in India if the driver passes then so do the passengers?
robroy:
V40LLY:
From what I gather, some, most, or all our counterparts in Eastern Europe don’t even have to do any HGV tests. It’s simply a matter of having to pay for a category to be added to your licence and your good to go. Some may have to do some basic agriculture vehicle test and that covers you to drive anything, thereafter.
After that, you can go and knock on the door’s of any western European employers and ask for a job.Yeh that is in fact correct. As like you, I also believe as gospel that type of driver bullcrap, that I hear all the time in rdc.s, ferries, cafes and pubs.
Are you saying I’m right or wrong? Your opening sentence told me explicitly, that you think what I said is true. Your last sentence said the opposite.
I think what he is saying is that you are a bellend. And he is also right on a previous post.
You are not even a good troll.
eagerbeaver:
I think what he is saying is that you are a bellend. And he is also right on a previous post.You are not even a good troll.
I’m not even trying to be a troll, you [zb].