If your waiting at a roundabout and the traffic is heavy, enough to make you wait, say 2+ mins, would you get a fail for hesitation?
instantKarma:
If your waiting at a roundabout and the traffic is heavy, enough to make you wait, say 2+ mins, would you get a fail for hesitation?
NO - wait 15 mins like I did on mine at a set of lights in rush hour in 1988 = no minors
Miss a safe opportunity to go and you could get a minor
instantKarma:
If your waiting at a roundabout and the traffic is heavy, enough to make you wait, say 2+ mins, would you get a fail for hesitation?
Wait as long as it takes so not to interfere with traffic on the roundabout.
Paul
gotcha
If your waiting at a roundabout and the traffic is heavy, enough to make you wait, say 2+ mins, would you get a fail for hesitation?
To a great extent, this depends on your perception of the situation and the examiner’s perception. These can be quite different. But you must rely on your judgement and simply use the rule that “if you make someone change speed or course, you’re wrong”. I’ve used that mantra for the last 40 years and it’s bombproof.
The problems come when, maybe, you’re looking for a space and you’re looking for one that’s bigger than you actually need. Another bit of hassle comes with making sure the vehicle is ready to take the space ie in gear, park brake off or ready to be released, mirrors continually checked. I’ve seen it when there is a perfectly good space but, by the time all the checks have been made, it’s all too late. The knack is in seeing the space coming, doing the checks, and getting the thing moving slowly so you can fill the space straight away. Sounds easy, but it takes practice.
Cant remember the last time I had a fail for progress or hesitation. But for folks nipping into a space that isn’t there - - that’s just too recent!
Hope this helps, Pete
Can’t wait to try it out thanks for your input all!
Best advice I can give you is “if you don’t know don’t go”
Paul
If you have to wait a while then it might shorten the rest of the driving test. Tests are time limited, so if traffic conditions work against you the examiner may have to shorten his planned route to keep in the time slot. On my test I got caught in rush hour traffic and lost some time to that. I then found myself being told to drive down a long straight A road near the test centre, round the roundabout at the end and all the way back again. I’m sure this was a time filler because he had cut off the rest of the normal test route owing to time constraints.
So don’t be afraid of waiting, but as has been said already, don’t miss a clear opportunity to make progress.
ORC:
If you have to wait a while then it might shorten the rest of the driving test. Tests are time limited, so if traffic conditions work against you the examiner may have to shorten his planned route to keep in the time slot. On my test I got caught in rush hour traffic and lost some time to that. I then found myself being told to drive down a long straight A road near the test centre, round the roundabout at the end and all the way back again. I’m sure this was a time filler because he had cut off the rest of the normal test route owing to time constraints.So don’t be afraid of waiting, but as has been said already, don’t miss a clear opportunity to make progress.
I got a “no result” on my first C+E test, as the traffic was so heavy we were unable to complete the full route. Got a free re-rest from DSA, but had to pay the school again for lorry hire which I was rather unhappy about.
That sounds a bit ■■■■■■ up to be honest. You should not have to shoulder that extra cost surely?
I understand that point of view. Can you suggest who should stand the cost then?
Pete
The DVSA could organise tests outside of rush hours
In that scenario we would apply a 50% vehicle hire charge to the candidate. That way all parties shoulder some of the added costs.
As for the OP Peter has provided a thorough explanation of a very common problem. The skill starts with the approach to the roundabout by reading the situation in detail. The last 5-10 yards are the most important as that is when a decision has to be made. Go or Stop. There are no other options. You should be going slow enough to stop and also in the correct gear to Go.
There are many ways of judging whether a gap is large enough if you are stationary but 1 we use is could you safely walk from the kerb across the road onto the roundabout. If not then don’t pull out. The examiner will mark you on the conditions at the moment you decide to go
Overall if in doubt take a minor for hesitation rather than a serious fault for Observation.
In the event of something very unusual like this, we would always “look after” the candidate to ensure that everyone is as happy as possible.
To do anything different is not to offer the customer service we pride ourselves on.
Pete
You would of got free use of the truck with me as it was not your fault.
Paul
I had opposite extreme with my cat C - did it on Jan 3rd and it was like a ghost town resulting it a fair bit of extra driving! That said, roundabouts were no problem as there wasn’t another vehicle in sight!
Going back on topic - as said above, if you consistently approach roundabouts at a very steady speed in a low-ish gear, you have time to properly observe the approaches and make the call whether to stop or carry on.
No problem in reality using forward planning. Funny how my head tried to put me off by making up negative scenarios and trying to fail me lol