muckles:
Perhaps for some C+E drivers it might be what they want to get away from long hours on the road. Could be a nice steady job with a bit of variety of working in the warehouse or transport office instead of hours on the road. Only the possibility of a night out, less hours than on general haulage more time at home.
From what I’ve read doesn’t seem they’re asking for anything unreasonable except for the pay, I wonder if that is a salary for basic hours Monday to Friday, I know of other own account jobs that seem to have a very low wage until you see what you get for working overtime, weekends, early starts, late finishes.
Let’s just say that I’d bet the job wouldn’t even have been advertised ‘if’ it was along the lines of long distance international trunking with demount drawbars.Even at the same money.
Get regular emails from jobsites with international trunking jobs.
Carryfast:
The fact is most drivers don’t get into the job to avoid ‘long hours on the road’ by working inside at worse or doing shop deliveries at best.Which probably explains why the advert hasn’t long been taken down.Having filled the job with any east euro drivers preferring to ditch their typical lower paying home based long haul type jobs for typical uk domestic distribution sector type work.
People get into truck driving for various reasons and not all want to be away for a week let alone do European work and for others circumstances change and they don’t won’t to spend hours or days away from home, but for many there is no option as the basic rate is so low they need to work the hours and get the N/O money to pay the bills.
I bet that £24k is set in stone and you get nothing for covering office staff, warehouse staff or the fact you may have to spend nights out. In fact I would wager that the person who gets the job suddenly finds out they do have to spend 2/3 nights out every ■■■■■■■ week and it is included. Knowledge of UK and ideally Ireland as well as all the other conditions all for less than £500 per week. Suppose they will find someone to do it who is keen.
People are quite quick slating a job before actually finding out what it entails. There is no mention of the overtime rates, basic hours & employee benefits. Maybe they don’t have to advertise very often?
It may well turn out to be a rubbish job, but until you know all the details, why slate it?
Since this job is being advertised by an agency, it may not even exist, just to promt a moan on here, or it could and that is for 40 hours with overtime paid at X1.5 which would make it a very good wage.
It is indeed an agency vacancy - I have previously worked for said agency and as with most of that ilk avoid like the plague - bitter experience on my part perhaps but you will struggle to ever achieve anything like the quoted salary!
There was a C&E tramping job out of Dewsbury advertised on the Job Centre website last week, it was 5 nights out run in Saturday, £800.00 pw all inclusive, inter-depot trunking and some possible RDC deliveries, the driver must stay awake with the vehicle when away from base! It was from an agency called ‘RDT’ who seem to have sprung up recently in the Yorkshire area. I couldn’t find the ad again when I looked back to post it on here, but I assure everyone that is what the ad said.
^^next thing you know they will be asking drivers to change into a security uniform and perform sentry duty around the vehicle all night until the driver YOU sets off. Agencies are taking the p1ss more and more
That is certainly the case in this part of the world… South Staffordshire / North West Midlands.
Forgetting all the none existent vacancies they post (some agencies several times a week - Swift… Best Connection etc), the other ones agencies post seem to be so vague in many instances, it becomes almost impossible to decipher what the job actually is.
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My mate went for an interview for this job and he ended walked out. Not sure why but he was expected to pay £x hundred fee before starting, got basic wage with overtime paid after a further so many weeks (why not alltogether?) and would not get paid if he had to return to a customer to do remedial work. Drivers mate gets put into hotels but he’d have to sleep in the cab. Sounded right dodgy and he got the impression that his wage slips would look like a til receipt.
I asked a few agencies why the jobs are still advertised and between them I got these reasons:
A/ We get a block to post our vacancies and it is cheaper to advertise a block so we just let the old jobs run even though they have been filled.
B/ We get allocated a block size so if we do not take our full allocation another agency gets the space and keeps it preventing us getting back in. So each agency tries to grab more space and then keeps it.
C/ By having more adverts than other agencies, drivers look at the first few pages and call the agency they think is more successful and maybe chase one particular job that has been filled but we tell them that when they have registered. We can always get them something else.
I was shocked to hear this but it made commercial sense. However it is devastating to a driver looking for work as they are likely to be reading a job description that does not exist and they may register with an agency that all along planned to give them the work no one wants. You go through 2 hours of tests and forms then they either tell you that this job needs someone older, more experience, ADR or some other excuse but the favourite one is “oh I am sorry my colleague filled this job this morning and did not tell me”. I have heard that excuse a few times. The last time I heard that she followed it with “We have a two man furniture job 04:30 tomorrow morning and then we can plan you in next week”. This is a common tactic as you have just sat there for two hours and filled all the forms in passed the tests etc. and now you have to go home and tell the Mrs you have no work. So you are pressured to take the lousy furniture removal job on HGV 2 rate just so the day is not wasted. The agency then will know that you are desperate enough and they have you. My answer to the lady was “No sorry, I want class 1 trunking” and I did not go back.
Pretty sure it’s for Dreams bed centre in Wednesbury/Bilston, they had an advert out the front when I drove past the other day. Wage seems low for class 2 work because they were offering 21K for 3.5ton van drivers 10 years ago! Although if it is them I don’t really understand why having a class 1 would be of any use out of a regional warehouse.
Tbh the advert reads more like it’s lifted out of the company handbook than a job advert.
alder:
However it is devastating to a driver looking for work as they are likely to be reading a job description that does not exist and they may register with an agency that all along planned to give them the work no one wants. You go through 2 hours of tests and forms then they either tell you that this job needs someone older, more experience, ADR or some other excuse but the favourite one is “oh I am sorry my colleague filled this job this morning and did not tell me”. I have heard that excuse a few times. The last time I heard that she followed it with “We have a two man furniture job 04:30 tomorrow morning and then we can plan you in next week”.
Apart from a few smaller agencies that still have some level of decency and integrity, I have found most agencies out there to be a complete and utter waste of time nowadays. It is to the point where I only contact agencies via email now if they are advertising a specific vacancy I am interested in and tell them upfront I am not interested in shop deliveries or home deliveries so we don’t waste each other’s time. Needless to say, I never hear from some of them again. Suits me though, as at least one of us is being honest.
alder:
However it is devastating to a driver looking for work as they are likely to be reading a job description that does not exist and they may register with an agency that all along planned to give them the work no one wants. You go through 2 hours of tests and forms then they either tell you that this job needs someone older, more experience, ADR or some other excuse but the favourite one is “oh I am sorry my colleague filled this job this morning and did not tell me”. I have heard that excuse a few times. The last time I heard that she followed it with “We have a two man furniture job 04:30 tomorrow morning and then we can plan you in next week”.
Apart from a few smaller agencies that still have some level of decency and integrity, I have found most agencies out there to be a complete and utter waste of time nowadays. It is to the point where I only contact agencies via email now if they are advertising a specific vacancy I am interested in and tell them upfront I am not interested in shop deliveries or home deliveries so we don’t waste each other’s time. Needless to say, I never hear from some of them again. Suits me though, as at least one of us is being honest.
I have told them that until I am blue in the face but they do not listen as they know the majority of drivers are desperate to get earning. Right its 11am and I have another interview to go to I will keep this up until I get a good job or until I run out of job applications but I ain’t going back on agency Good feeling about this interview
Good luck with your interview. There are regular jobs appearing for direct employment with the firms now as employers know that as older drivers start to retire, or as their workload starts to increase, it going to be better to offer contracts than risk losing out on work as they can’t get the drivers they need.
alder:
However it is devastating to a driver looking for work as they are likely to be reading a job description that does not exist and they may register with an agency that all along planned to give them the work no one wants. You go through 2 hours of tests and forms then they either tell you that this job needs someone older, more experience, ADR or some other excuse but the favourite one is “oh I am sorry my colleague filled this job this morning and did not tell me”. I have heard that excuse a few times. The last time I heard that she followed it with “We have a two man furniture job 04:30 tomorrow morning and then we can plan you in next week”.
Apart from a few smaller agencies that still have some level of decency and integrity, I have found most agencies out there to be a complete and utter waste of time nowadays. It is to the point where I only contact agencies via email now if they are advertising a specific vacancy I am interested in and tell them upfront I am not interested in shop deliveries or home deliveries so we don’t waste each other’s time. Needless to say, I never hear from some of them again. Suits me though, as at least one of us is being honest.
I have told them that until I am blue in the face but they do not listen as they know the majority of drivers are desperate to get earning. Right its 11am and I have another interview to go to I will keep this up until I get a good job or until I run out of job applications but I ain’t going back on agency Good feeling about this interview
Agencies are one of the reasons that this job has turned to ■■■■. These parasites cream off what could, and should, be a decent rate paid direct to the driver, and at the same time ■■■■ drivers about and make them jump through hoops.
Good luck with your job hunting mate.
Muckaway: http://www.totaljobs.com/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=62916839
My mate went for an interview for this job and he ended walked out. Not sure why but he was expected to pay £x hundred fee before starting, got basic wage with overtime paid after a further so many weeks (why not alltogether?) and would not get paid if he had to return to a customer to do remedial work. Drivers mate gets put into hotels but he’d have to sleep in the cab. Sounded right dodgy and he got the impression that his wage slips would look like a til receipt.
I always thought this was what ‘remedial’ meant in relation to driving a wagon?.. If I’m wrong, then I must be remedial myself.
For getting such a paragon multitasker for this job, they really need a lady trucker who’ll even act as “eye candy front-liner” as well as everything on this “not exhaustive list” when meeting customers etc.
I will keep this up until I get a good job or until I run out of job applications but I ain’t going back on agency 
Good feeling about this interview 
