Rowley010:
If it says lane 1 or hard shoulder for junction x only then if you don’t want that junction move out of it
But my sat nav doesn’t tell me the J nr, how’s am supposed to know whether I’ll need this one or the next one■■?
Rowley010:
And if it says hard shoulder for emergency use only don’t drive in it.
And if I don’t understand English? Signs shoud be understandable by drivers of all literacy/language and based on visual rather than linguistic comunnicaiton. How would you like drviving through Germany and having to read “Vorshjschsjwnckltickhkeit Mit Dem Hartschreinarbeitwichserstrasse!”, keep a pocket German dictionary with you at all times? Next to your French one, of course, “voul se plaise oiu jo te ma découvrez nos offres” etc. etc.
Sounds as if yer sat nav ain’t up to ‘‘Wipe your arse NOW’’ standard then eh mate?
And how do you think we all managed in the countries that you speak of (which you will sure as hell will not have driven through) before sat navs eh?
But what tf do I know with me being a quote: ‘‘Crap driver’’ in comparison to yourself?
i was always instantly recognisable for being a “proper driver” for the reason that when i was loading up to head out,my suitcase of a-z street guides and maps was bigger than the rest of my kit…
dieseldog999:
i was always instantly recognisable for being a “proper driver” for the reason that when i was loading up to head out,my suitcase of a-z street guides and maps was bigger than the rest of my kit…
Did you keep a dedicated brick for cruise control like a real “proper drover” or did you - like a steering attendant, rely on sheer luck finding one by chance as you were heading out? I’m sure robroy still keeps his old brick somewhere and shows it to his kids from time to time as proof how he had to do it “the hard way”.
dieseldog999:
i was always instantly recognisable for being a “proper driver” for the reason that when i was loading up to head out,my suitcase of a-z street guides and maps was bigger than the rest of my kit…
Did you keep a dedicated brick for cruise control like a real “proper drover” or did you - like a steering attendant, rely on sheer luck finding one by chance as you were heading out? I’m sure robroy still keeps his old brick somewhere and shows it to his kids from time to time as proof how he had to do it “the hard way”.
^^^^^^^^
bricks were a bit crude and could easily scratch your super hamptons .
proper drivers used a chair leg cut to size which could also be used as an "attitude adjuster depending on where you parked up and who decided to disturb you…
dieseldog999:
bricks were a bit crude and could easily scratch your super hamptons .
proper drivers used a chair leg cut to size which could also be used as an "attitude adjuster depending on where you parked up and who decided to disturb you…
Some of the crap I’ve driven in the past…a brick was an essential.piece of kit,.for a parking brake.
I can’t understand why SMART is being used outside peak hours. There’s absolutely no need for it. The hard shoulder should remain as such from 18.30 pm until 07.30 am then use SMART until 09.30am, then from 15.30pm until 18.30pm. A lot safer method and gives a hard shoulder if required.
ETS:
And if I don’t understand English? Signs shoud be understandable by drivers of all literacy/language and based on visual rather than linguistic comunnicaiton. How would you like drviving through Germany and having to read “Vorshjschsjwnckltickhkeit Mit Dem Hartschreinarbeitwichserstrasse!”, keep a pocket German dictionary with you at all times? Next to your French one, of course, “voul se plaise oiu jo te ma découvrez nos offres” etc. etc.
Then you learn.
I cant speak fluent Italian/Spanish/French/German/Dutch etc but I do make an effort to understand the language of the road signs.
ETS:
And if I don’t understand English? Signs shoud be understandable by drivers of all literacy/language and based on visual rather than linguistic comunnicaiton. How would you like drviving through Germany and having to read “Vorshjschsjwnckltickhkeit Mit Dem Hartschreinarbeitwichserstrasse!”, keep a pocket German dictionary with you at all times? Next to your French one, of course, “voul se plaise oiu jo te ma découvrez nos offres” etc. etc.
Then you learn.
I cant speak fluent Italian/Spanish/French/German/Dutch etc but I do make an effort to understand the language of the road signs.
I reckon learning will be a waste of his time.
Don’t be fooled by his over confident ‘‘I know it all/I’ve done it all’’ bravado attitude, … despite all that all he does is a night trunk of a 100 mile radius in a puddle jumper .
The only other language he could possibly maybe need is Polish, to communicate with the security guard or yard man.
Once I got out of France and parts of Belgium I was ■■■■ ed, but even there my vocabulary was only enough to ask what time the boat leaves, order food, and a coffee and most importantly… Je voudrais une grande biere sil vous plait . and then in Holland I had to ring my Dutch wife to ask her how to do that
I’m sure on many occasions she told me the wrong stuff for a laugh judging by some people’s reactions .
Did you read the article, or just the headline?
The RAC thinks that hard should running works, but was concerned (rightly) that the refuge areas on that particular section were to far apart.
ETS:
And if I don’t understand English? Signs shoud be understandable by drivers of all literacy/language and based on visual rather than linguistic comunnicaiton. How would you like drviving through Germany and having to read “Vorshjschsjwnckltickhkeit Mit Dem Hartschreinarbeitwichserstrasse!”, keep a pocket German dictionary with you at all times? Next to your French one, of course, “voul se plaise oiu jo te ma découvrez nos offres” etc. etc.
Then you learn.
I cant speak fluent Italian/Spanish/French/German/Dutch etc but I do make an effort to understand the language of the road signs.
I reckon learning will be a waste of his time.
Don’t be fooled by his over confident ‘‘I know it all/I’ve done it all’’ bravado attitude, … despite all that all he does is a night trunk of a 100 mile radius in a puddle jumper .
The only other language he could possibly maybe need is Polish, to communicate with the security guard or yard man.
Once I got out of France and parts of Belgium I was [zb] ed, but even there my vocabulary was only enough to ask what time the boat leaves, order food, and a coffee and most importantly… Je voudrais une grande biere sil vous plait . and then in Holland I had to ring my Dutch wife to ask her how to do that
I’m sure on many occasions she told me the wrong stuff for a laugh judging by some people’s reactions .
On my jobs into Europe I found most people to be helpful and make an effort to understand you as long as you are polite and don’t do the English abroad thing of shouting at them.
Apart from Germany. Hated it there and found people to be deliberately unhelpful, claiming not to understand a word I said.
Stopped at a McDonald’s there and tried to order a big Mac, and despite pointing at and touching a huge poster of a big Mac they all just stood there shaking their heads and then came back with a happy meal
germany always likes to remind brits that they didnt take too kindly to losing twice.
from putting the ignition key in a merc car on the wrong side to remembering you bombed their chippy its always best not to be english there,though anywhere ive been in europe for all my years of driving,if you need too communicate just keep repeating "speak english you ( insert here garlic,cheese,spaghetti or whatever description suits you) surrender monkey till they give in or they go and get someone else who does.
being stopped in germany or asking for assistance then being scottish i always make sure they know im not english and then its a case of my enemys enemy is my friend.
all of a sudden their not knowing english changes somewhat .
When Germans (or anyone non-English) come to the UK do they get upset if no one speaks/understands German (or their respective language)? What’s wrong with using pictures/symbols instead of words? Like a picture of four lanes - one of which is the HS with an X over it or a straight arrow (if open for use) would be universally understandable by anyone above “moron” level (well that excludes robroy unfortunately but he’s going to retire soon so it’s ok)
it works well enough for mcdonalds with pics on the till buttons for happy meals,burgers and fries ect…just dumb everything down to ■■■■■■ level instead of trying to improve standards.
dieseldog999:
it works well enough for mcdonalds with pics on the till buttons for happy meals,burgers and fries ect…just dumb everything down to ■■■■■■ level instead of trying to improve standards.
It works for most road signs too, apparently. Just not for Highwaymen England’s gantry haikus.
ETS:
would be universally understandable by anyone above “moron” level (well that excludes robroy unfortunately but he’s going to retire soon so it’s ok)
Mate…let me tell you something.
You’re unique in the sense that if ANYBODY else had said that, I would have been insulted…see if you can work that one out for yourself.
Fyi bud I reckon I’ll still be around in the job for about 10 or more years.
Hey! Just thought …by that time you should have learned how to do it.
robroy:
Hey! Just thought …by that time you should have learned how to do it.
Nah, ‘mate’, I don’t think I’ll ever get to be as good as you. I only started driving in the era of auto gearboxes, sat navs and cruise control. I’ll never experience what it’s like to be a ‘proper driver’
robroy:
Hey! Just thought …by that time you should have learned how to do it.
Nah, ‘mate’, I don’t think I’ll ever get to be as good as you. I only started driving in the era of auto gearboxes, sat navs and cruise control. I’ll never experience what it’s like to be a ‘proper driver’
The driver of this van was lucky to escape with their life after their stricken vehicle was hit by an LGV in lane 1 while they were sat in it. It happened on an all lane running, unlit part of the M1. If safe and you can, alight your vehicle immediately and get behind the barrier
tommy t:
They are not about safety , they were rolled out to generate revenue, the sheer number of speed scameras only proves this
I’m guessing from your post you’re one of those morons incapable of driving at or below the limit and have been caught by one?
Anyone who has been driving lorries since before these came in knows how much better stretches of the motorway are now where all lane running is. Many of us can recall the daily car park that was whole stretches of the M42 and M62 around Leeds and M1 around Nottingham which now at least spend much longer moving than they did any time since the 1990s.
The problem with smart motorways isn’t the idea, it is that it appears that the standards of many drivers is so low that they can’t understand such a simple concept even with big neon signs saying “Use Hard Shoulder.”
Never been done for speeding by a scammera and those crap unsmart motorways i will avoid where possible in my car
