Dipper_Dave:
Sorry but is this thread about how to reduce the amount of cash a father pays to support their children. Heres a thought face up to your responsibilities and stop whinging about a few quid here and there. Its not as if your ex is spending it on nights out and bottles of wine 
Deadbeat dads i’ve [zb] em…
You’re right.
Mine spends it on six or seven holidays per year, mostly when I’ve got the lad… And a car, and a house, and hasn’t time for working between all those holidays and socialising. She gets so tired waiting for the handouts from me and the government.
Like Harry, I’ve a good accountant, so the damage is relatively minor. I also spend a fortune on my lad and he spends an awful lot of time with me as well.
Maybe check facts before making ill informed generalisations! 
Booked in when??:
I’ve tried sorting something with her but she’s a ■■■■■ and wants to ruin my life as much as she can 
Same here …the fat twisted lump !!! 
Reminds me of the old joke…
I went for a job with Eddie Stobart and asked them if I could have my ex-wife’s name on the front of the truck, but apparently “Fat, Ugly, Money-Grabbing, Adulterous ■■■■■” doesn’t fit on the grille of a Scania. 
markoc:
Booked in when??:
I’ve tried sorting something with her but she’s a ■■■■■ and wants to ruin my life as much as she can
Same here …the fat twisted lump !!!
Well when my lad decided to leave his mum and fella and the other step kids etc as soon as I got the Child Benefit number on the Weds, I made a call to the CSA … my phone was red hot come Friday from her she ended up paying more for one than I did for 2 works both ways chaps
When me and the missus had a falling out I remember her being under the impression that I’d have to pay her £200 a week lmfao, I’ve just worked it out at £68 lol.
Let’s not try and pull the wool over people’s eyes, most women don’t spend the maintenance money on a child’s upkeep, it goes on a Friday/Saturday night ■■■■ up giving blow jobs round the back of a nightclub.
I would tell the CSA that the £12k should be returned ( hope you have a letter to that effect ) and that you will go to court to get a judge to decide. Although night out money is non taxable, and is not part of your wages, you boss has no right to tell them your gross earnings includes subsistence. When on a night out, you have expenses ( which is why its called subsistence ) and it goes towards your out of pocket luxuries that you cannot get if your not at home. Fight them all the way the CSA and your boss, although your boss was probably doing what he thought they were asking for.
As an added bonus, years ago employers would give us the night out money before we went on our journey, sadly, they want us to spend our money beforehand and then claim it back, which is fine until the truck needs money spent on it to get it back to base. I had a truck where it developed an oil leak, i spent my money buying oil £28, and it took a month to get my money back ( couldnt buy oil on the card at that time ) so next time it happened, i refused to spend my money on getting their truck back to base, you will only catch me out once.
How much easier it was years ago you got your night out money before you went on a trip and if something happened and you had a extra night out you got that paid as soon as you ,got back ,simples. So why don’t firms do that now ? Is there any legal reason why it can’t be done or is it impractical to do this
Harry Monk:
Reminds me of the old joke…
I went for a job with Eddie Stobart and asked them if I could have my ex-wife’s name on the front of the truck, but apparently “Fat, Ugly, Money-Grabbing, Adulterous ■■■■■” doesn’t fit on the grille of a Scania.
Blimey Harry, I thought WBIS was back on for a minute 
Booked in when??:
No this thread isn’t about not paying for my responsibilities it’s about why or if night out money should be taken in to account when being assessed.
Apologies if my earlier tongue in cheek post was taken the wrong way … Right so your next comment won’t have anything to do with overpaying or whinging about 12k paid out incorrectly to your kids…
As it turns out it shouldn’t be and it looks like I’ve over paid by roughly £12k over the last 8-9 years. I just wish I was rich enough not to have to whinge about £12k!
Oh dear…Anyway according to some old CSA archive I found, their stance on this is:
Payments for expenses are ignored provided they are wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred in carrying out the employment. (If they are tax free they will automatically be ignored.)
So by the look of it you have been incorrectly charged.
So what can you do, well as its been going on for 8-9 years it appears to be an uphill struggle surely their must be something you can do to reduce the payments to your children… Perhaps you could ask them to pay it back
My issue is that lets say a ‘normal’ (if there is such a thing) family unit, where the father or mother goes out to earn a crust gets some tax free payment for nights out and my weird perspective on life would lead me to imagine that any of these funds left over would then be spent on the family or down the pub, but still these funds would go towards the family coffers. Course with out of pocket tolls, bridge fees etc theres no opportunity but night out money has the potential to be saved, no requirement to do so but the choice is there.
So you’ve overpaid your kids and would like it to stop…well it seems you are correct and these expenses should not count towards their payment, but after 8-9 years unnoticed what difference does it make now.
So if the CSA (or whatever they are called now) fess up and say ‘fair cop you have overpaid we will pay you this 12k back and recover it from your children when they start earning by reducing their tax code (tax free allowance)’. Would you still want it back, course not (well I hope not anyway).
Can you ask for a review based on your current income.
Dipper_Dave:
Booked in when??:
No this thread isn’t about not paying for my responsibilities it’s about why or if night out money should be taken in to account when being assessed.
Apologies if my earlier tongue in cheek post was taken the wrong way … Right so your next comment won’t have anything to do with overpaying or whinging about 12k paid out incorrectly to your kids…
As it turns out it shouldn’t be and it looks like I’ve over paid by roughly £12k over the last 8-9 years. I just wish I was rich enough not to have to whinge about £12k!
Oh dear…Anyway according to some old CSA archive I found, their stance on this is:
Payments for expenses are ignored provided they are wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred in carrying out the employment. (If they are tax free they will automatically be ignored.)
So by the look of it you have been incorrectly charged.
So what can you do, well as its been going on for 8-9 years it appears to be an uphill struggle surely their must be something you can do to reduce the payments to your children… Perhaps you could ask them to pay it back
My issue is that lets say a ‘normal’ (if there is such a thing) family unit, where the father or mother goes out to earn a crust gets some tax free payment for nights out and my weird perspective on life would lead me to imagine that any of these funds left over would then be spent on the family or down the pub, but still these funds would go towards the family coffers. Course with out of pocket tolls, bridge fees etc theres no opportunity but night out money has the potential to be saved, no requirement to do so but the choice is there.
So you’ve overpaid your kids and would like it to stop…well it seems you are correct and these expenses should not count towards their payment, but after 8-9 years unnoticed what difference does it make now.
So if the CSA (or whatever they are called now) fess up and say ‘fair cop you have overpaid we will pay you this 12k back and recover it from your children when they start earning by reducing their tax code (tax free allowance)’. Would you still want it back, course not (well I hope not anyway).
Can you ask for a review based on your current income.
I’d get the split arse who had the money to pay it back, what’s his kids got to do with it.
NewLad:
I’d get the split arse who had the money to pay it back, what’s his kids got to do with it.
Isn’t that where child maintenance goes, are you saying the ‘split arse’ in this case has spent it all recklessly.
Is this a lady of leisure who has 4 kids by 5 different fathers.