woodpeker:
drove a 110 scania in 1975 sleeper night heater fitted
I have seen one in a DAF 2600, but not sure they were factory fitted or standard equipment.
Did you know that Eberspacher made exhaust heaters for the early VW Beetle?
We had to make do wi a couple of sticks rubbed together. We were not allowed to let them burn, just rubbing em got you warm!
Wheel Nut:
woodpeker:
drove a 110 scania in 1975 sleeper night heater fittedI have seen one in a DAF 2600, but not sure they were factory fitted or standard equipment.
There was one in the 1978 2800 which I drove and it seemed like the same type and installation as was fitted in the later 1980’s ATI’s as standard fitment from new.
My dad had one in August 1971, trouble is, it dropped an unwelcome sprog in May the following year.
MADBAZ:
My dad had one in August 1971, trouble is, it dropped an unwelcome sprog in May the following year.
Aye, in them days they used a TK Bedford as Birth control 
Wheel Nut:
chaversdad:
i think a 112 scania was the first one i had with a proper night heater, i did have an F10 that had a gas heater that worked off a bottle outsidei never dared leave it on at night but it was wonderful for doing toast on for breakfast in the morning
cant imagine what H+S would say about that now !They are still used with gas in cold places, less chance of the fuel freezing up.
Although some Eberspacher’s do run on petrol
Leicester Heavy Haulge ran one of theirs on petrol years ago, it blew the top of the fuel tank off!
it was common practice a few years back to add a gallon of petrol to the tank if it was going to be a cold one, cos the diesel would wax. it was either carlisle or penrith, can’t remember now, but said driver filled up, then put a gallon of petrol in. if he’d driven on it would have been fine, but he parked up, the fuel didn’t mix and the petrol sunk straight to the bottom of the tank, when he switched the night heater on it sucked up the petrol from the tank!
ashbyspannerman:
Wheel Nut:
chaversdad:
i think a 112 scania was the first one i had with a proper night heater, i did have an F10 that had a gas heater that worked off a bottle outside
cant imagine what H+S would say about that now !They are still used with gas in cold places, less chance of the fuel freezing up.
Although some Eberspacher’s do run on petrol
Leicester Heavy Haulge ran one of theirs on petrol years ago, it blew the top of the fuel tank off!
it was common practice a few years back to add a gallon of petrol to the tank if it was going to be a cold one, cos the diesel would wax. it was either carlisle or penrith, can’t remember now, but said driver filled up, then put a gallon of petrol in. if he’d driven on it would have been fine, but he parked up, the fuel didn’t mix and the petrol sunk straight to the bottom of the tank, when he switched the night heater on it sucked up the petrol from the tank!
Yes, the petrol ones were specialist ones, not just a diesel one with a Champion N5 in it Coleman heaters also run off petrol
A lot of diesel cars have a sort of night heater on now, things like Chrysler Voyagers and BMW / Audi etc have a water preheater for the engine and the interior.
Webasto’s DW80 is a petrol heater and is/was a fairly common fit on US style motor home for some reason, they are of course central heating (water) heaters mainly. The diesel version (more common) is the Thermo 90s/st (9kw) and is a fairly common fit on motorhomes and boats. The problem on boats, is that the burner inserts needs very regular servicing (as all Webasto/Eberspachers) after prolonged use due to the carbon content of red diesel. This is now changing, as red is now predominantly low sulphur, but the jury is out for the time being as it has not been in use long enough. The best fuel to use (even over white road fuel in the diesel fired unis) is kerosene, not an issue with trucks of course, but the problems caused on boats, certainly narrowboats and red diesel with these units is legendary… Kerosene is not an easy fuel to get of course in smaller quantities; but is easily ‘cutable’ (50/50) with red diesel to produce a fuel mixture that produces less carbon build up.
We used to put parrafin in the diesel back in the 60s to stop it waxing.
AFAIK the first night heaters appeared around the late 70s at the same time as sleeper cabs, but they were pretty rare.
war1974:
my dad had an old x plate hino with one in and there werent many had them in at that time
had to check with my dad it wasnt the hino it was a magirus-deutz but i can recall getting up in short and a tee shirt in walse and watching other driver scrape ice from the inside of the windows!
I remember them being advertised in truck mags in the late 80’s as I don’t think they where a standard fitting in many trucks.
One of the first truck I had a night out in was a DAF (1900 I think) and that didn’t have one, although I then went to work for a bloke who run Renaults and got an E reg G290 and that had one. In fact all his truck had night heaters. The other thing was he’d get them repaired, unlike some others round here who thought they were a luxury item
