Night Heaters

dinosteveus1:

Actrosman:
Came across this thread on another site (sister site??)…
roundtable.truck.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36616

Ummmmm, interesting site :astonished: :astonished: :astonished:

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All the Members are in the US, so I’m guessing it’s a Yank Forum for truckers :laughing:

Interesting, reading that the symptoms sound exactly like what those who say they have been gassed report!

Driveroneuk:

dinosteveus1:

Actrosman:
Came across this thread on another site (sister site??)…
roundtable.truck.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36616

Ummmmm, interesting site :astonished: :astonished: :astonished:

edit
All the Members are in the US, so I’m guessing it’s a Yank Forum for truckers :laughing:

Interesting, reading that the symptoms sound exactly like what those who say they have been gassed report!

I did mention just this a few months ago on the “gas attack” thread.

Now where’s that bloody smug emoticon?

the maoster:
Now where’s that bloody smug emoticon?

Driveroneuk:
Not these days with modern anti-wax additives added in Winter.

A PETROL heater :question: My God, doesn’t bear thinking about.

BOOM :exclamation:

Eberspacher BN4 as fitted into VW Campers and Beetles

Not as standard it isn’t though Malc.
Standard heating in those vehicles is a heat exchanger x 2 off the exhaust manifolds.

Anyway i still say it, a petrol one■■? BOOM!

The one thing with diesel night heaters is balance and fuel mixture. The inlet pipe has to be the correct length as does the exhaust, a bit like tuning a two stroke motorcycle.

Normally the pipes will be of equal length but the important thing is that they must not be less than 8’'.

Most night heaters will stop working on the coldest night of the year and the pubic hair or socks will generally be the cause. If you run them every month during the summer, keep the vents clear and do not chuck all your rubbish in the area where they are mounted!

Both Webasto and Eberspacher build Petrol Night heaters and I had a gas one when i worked for the Germans as it cannot freeze up or wax like diesel

mellorautoelectrical.co.uk/T … etrol.html

Wheel Nut:
Both Webasto and Eberspacher build Petrol Night heaters and I had a gas one when i worked for the Germans as it cannot freeze up or wax like diesel

mellorautoelectrical.co.uk/T … etrol.html

Thankyou Wheel Nut :wink: I knew I wasn’t imagining gas heaters in trucks :wink:

SamIam:
A few quid on a carbon monoxide detector, could both allow you to rest aswell as your mind. Better to be safe than sorry!!! they are pretty cheap & available in most DIY store “Simples!!” Sleep well and stay Safe!!! I have one fitted as standard in my van but that said if I did’nt I would buy one without a doubt :sunglasses:

I think Globetrotters have one as standard too. The last one I went it had one. Handy to have, 5 deaths per year isn’t much but why take the risk.

Lycanthrope:

Wheel Nut:
Both Webasto and Eberspacher build Petrol Night heaters and I had a gas one when i worked for the Germans as it cannot freeze up or wax like diesel

mellorautoelectrical.co.uk/T … etrol.html

Thankyou Wheel Nut :wink: I knew I wasn’t imagining gas heaters in trucks :wink:

The Germans were experts when working with Gas :wink:

Wheel Nut:
The Germans were experts when working with Gas :wink:

Not all the time:

dinosteveus1:

Actrosman:
Came across this thread on another site (sister site??)…
roundtable.truck.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36616

Ummmmm, interesting site :astonished: :astonished: :astonished:

edit
All the Members are in the US, so I’m guessing it’s a Yank Forum for truckers :laughing:

Well ■■■■ 'in spotted Sherlock…nothing gets past u does it :unamused: It was more the fact about the content, not the friggin site but i suppose someone else had to put a ‘funny’ in (yawn), even though it wasn’t :wink:

i had a lucky escape years ago in a old erf when i worked for jays . parked on sand batch north bound woke up but was ■■■■■■ very groggy i could hardly stand up had a shower and somat to eat still felt groggy lucky was sat morn only ran in to yard . got fitter to check it over , never used it again . for £12 the alarms may just save your life the sell them in llyods chemist special offer :wink:

Terry T:

SamIam:
A few quid on a carbon monoxide detector, could both allow you to rest aswell as your mind. Better to be safe than sorry!!! they are pretty cheap & available in most DIY store “Simples!!” Sleep well and stay Safe!!! I have one fitted as standard in my van but that said if I did’nt I would buy one without a doubt :sunglasses:

I think Globetrotters have one as standard too. The last one I went it had one. Handy to have, 5 deaths per year isn’t much but why take the risk.

:unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:
5 unnecessary deaths too many!!

xtruckerlady:

Terry T:

SamIam:
A few quid on a carbon monoxide detector, could both allow you to rest aswell as your mind. Better to be safe than sorry!!! they are pretty cheap & available in most DIY store “Simples!!” Sleep well and stay Safe!!! I have one fitted as standard in my van but that said if I did’nt I would buy one without a doubt :sunglasses:

I think Globetrotters have one as standard too. The last one I went it had one. Handy to have, 5 deaths per year isn’t much but why take the risk.

:unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:
5 unnecessary deaths too many!!

I didn’t mean it like that. I meant it more in the way of the odds of you being one of those 5. When the odds of something bad happening are low many people think “It’ll never happen to me”. Unfortunately 5 truckers per year get that wrong.

It wasn’t carbon monoxide poisoning that the fireman was on about, but actual fires where the trucks went up in flames and he insisted they were caused by faulty heaters. I was as shocked as others at that figure, but he was adamant he was correct. Now maybe Scotland has worse weather and more people using them constantly. I don’t know, but what i do know is that there was absolutely nothing left of the cab on our truck
. Steering wheel completely burnt away, CB and radio totally disappeared. They do get a bit warm once they are going.

Was there not reports a while back of gangs blocking up the nightheater exhaust so to gass the the sleeping driver (not to kill him/her but just to knock them out to steal the load)

Ps is it just me or is MERC nightheaters very poor, I have a 55plate and it’s on it’s second one off our 53 plates on it’s 3rd & it’s also faulty so possibly a 4th on way!

The Mighty Pete has a night heater fitted and it works fine. If you are cold enough to need to switch it on then it has to stay on all night because when it gets cold, it gets really cold. Trouble is, the fuel lines are so fine that they will wax up even when you have the diesel treatment in the tanks, and if you run it while travelling then it will freeze for a pastime. I guess -30 temps create a real windchill at 60mph… With the North Americans, you have to remember they will fight anything which might be different since they hate change.

Wheelnut, did you ever have anything to do with the Espar liquid heaters on chocolate tanks? We have heaters, based on the same principle, to warm the engines up. They are awesome. It will get the engine to 130 farenheit in about 30 minutes. Makes all the difference between starting and not starting.

We had a Leyland years ago which had a propane heater in it. That thing scared me to death mind.

bobthedog:
The Mighty Pete has a night heater fitted and it works fine. If you are cold enough to need to switch it on then it has to stay on all night because when it gets cold, it gets really cold. Trouble is, the fuel lines are so fine that they will wax up even when you have the diesel treatment in the tanks, and if you run it while travelling then it will freeze for a pastime. I guess -30 temps create a real windchill at 60mph… With the North Americans, you have to remember they will fight anything which might be different since they hate change.

Wheelnut, did you ever have anything to do with the Espar liquid heaters on chocolate tanks? We have heaters, based on the same principle, to warm the engines up. They are awesome. It will get the engine to 130 farenheit in about 30 minutes. Makes all the difference between starting and not starting.

We had a Leyland years ago which had a propane heater in it. That thing scared me to death mind.

I havent used an Espar to the best of my knowledge, but think they were similar to the type that Wim Vos and NedLloyd used. We used propane heaters on some of the lift tanks in Germany or electric heaters like an Eberspacher driven from an on board Hartz Generator. For chocolate tankers the warm water blanket utilising the steam coils was sufficient as chocolate burns easily.