Anyone from the UK who sets up in Bulgaria or Rumania will have to deal with the man who drives around in a ■■■■■■■■■ car with tinted windows and who employs lots of big men who wear leather coats and collect large amounts of cash every week.
ironstipper:
This thread is just missing… Mendlesham group… Gary Banham… BV■■?
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh, you have just made me feel sick FFS 
''I’m Jake the fake, de diddle diddle dum, wiv me wooden leg, de diddle diddle dum 
I did state in my last post that I had worked for far worse … well thar ya go 
I told him to stuff his ancient Merc wagon & drag and he got so angry I thought he was going to HOP over the counter and deck me !
Think you find he on bulgarian and irish plates o licence
But uk drivers as had uk o licence revoked and new application turned down
The uk companies that trade under gone under couple times last time december 2012
Couple drivers no wages hid trucks etc
So not to try be in front for 2014 but to carry on operating
Itnot hear say been links on here before and in press but dont know how to post links up
Think you will find most are his uk trucks re registered when o licence and repute lost in uk
There a link on thread otherday about the bulgarian o licence and a pic of one of there 55 plate dafs before and after pics
Winseer:
This should all be about access to our lucrative markets or not. Putting the UK workforce on third-world wages will destroy the UK as a market - kill the goose that lays the golden eggs if you will.ON the continent, if you can run a driver for £2.50ph that makes the haulier a profit of £10ph selling stuff to locals that can’t afford it anymore, because the Euro is too high, then you compare that to running a driver for £10ph that makes a profit of £25 doing the same thing, but over here.
It sounds like the Euro one is making more initially (300% markup) compared to here (150% markup) but the other way of looking at it is that making £15ph profit is better than making £7.50 per hour - because it works back to front in terms of absolute costs/market access ratios.
If drivers don’t understand WTF I’m talking about here, then either I’m explaining it wrong, or you should all get overseas as soon as possible to mop up those meaty £2.50ph jobs that are supposedly going to take over the world in the near future…
Maintaining an inflationary policy in the UK helps protect us from the deflationary evils intended upon us by the overpopulating weak economies too.
Euroministers are attempting to beat us down with incorrectly-wielded deflation in the same way the Catholic Church beat us around the head with the Inquisition.Getting out of the EU would remove this threat to turn the entire working class population into slaves of course.
Let’s keep the “Serfdom Inquisition” out of the UK eh?Deflation is only a force for good when it starts at the top and works down. Lawyers, Bankers, Film stars, Footballers etc. being reduced in pay to £50ph instead of the thousands they are getting now for example. They’ll still be wealthy, but just less so. Some bod on £10ph though will have their life totally destroyed by a downmove to £2.50ph, so they’ll more likely turn to mugging the rich to get by, who of course won’t get any sympathy, seeing as they’d be considered to have brought it upon themselves.
Didn’t anyone learn ANYTHING from the holocaust?
+1
Sadly, your explanation will go in one ear and out of the other for many…
When the cabotage rules come into force, the only work worth having will be “own contract” stuff - for example driving for a builders merchant or a parcel company.
Anything else assuming there’s any work will be driven down to NMW.
If you’re thinking about getting out, I’d plan to do so by 2014.
Which begs ma a question…If someone decides to register in another country, and operate in another country, what happens to their 6 weekly check, can it be done in a third country, or must return to its operating area, same as the 2yr tacho check, it could work out expensive, unless they collect loads to/from the country of registration, i suppose they must also take loads to BG in order to register, otherwise its a whole lot more expensive just to run units to/from BG.
truckyboy:
Which begs ma a question…If someone decides to register in another country, and operate in another country, what happens to their 6 weekly check, can it be done in a third country, or must return to itsoperating area, same as the 2yr tacho check, it could work out expensive, unless they collect loads to/from the country of registration, i suppose they must also take loads to BG in order to register, otherwise its a whole lot more expensive just to run units to/from BG.
As the UK is the only country that requires 6 weekly checks, If you are in Bulgaria, you only have to do as they require.
if you do not join the club, you do not have to stick to the rules.
So what you lot are saying is there wont be any truck driving jobs in the UK anymore when they lift the cabotage rules?
Thanks Harry, i thought it was a EU directive, thanks for the swift reply, you obviously have nothing better to do on this lovely Sunday afternoon.
truckyboy:
Thanks Malc, i thought it was a EU directive, thanks for the swift reply, you obviously have nothing better to do on this lovely Sunday afternoon.
Or any other day since the foreigners took my job 
Winseer:
This should all be about access to our lucrative markets or not. Putting the UK workforce on third-world wages will destroy the UK as a market - kill the goose that lays the golden eggs if you will.ON the continent, if you can run a driver for £2.50ph that makes the haulier a profit of £10ph selling stuff to locals that can’t afford it anymore, because the Euro is too high, then you compare that to running a driver for £10ph that makes a profit of £25 doing the same thing, but over here.
It sounds like the Euro one is making more initially (300% markup) compared to here (150% markup) but the other way of looking at it is that making £15ph profit is better than making £7.50 per hour - because it works back to front in terms of absolute costs/market access ratios.
If drivers don’t understand WTF I’m talking about here, then either I’m explaining it wrong, or you should all get overseas as soon as possible to mop up those meaty £2.50ph jobs that are supposedly going to take over the world in the near future…
well said mucker , good to see someone on here with a bit of intelligence for once .
Maintaining an inflationary policy in the UK helps protect us from the deflationary evils intended upon us by the overpopulating weak economies too.
Euroministers are attempting to beat us down with incorrectly-wielded deflation in the same way the Catholic Church beat us around the head with the Inquisition.Getting out of the EU would remove this threat to turn the entire working class population into slaves of course.
Let’s keep the “Serfdom Inquisition” out of the UK eh?Deflation is only a force for good when it starts at the top and works down. Lawyers, Bankers, Film stars, Footballers etc. being reduced in pay to £50ph instead of the thousands they are getting now for example. They’ll still be wealthy, but just less so. Some bod on £10ph though will have their life totally destroyed by a downmove to £2.50ph, so they’ll more likely turn to mugging the rich to get by, who of course won’t get any sympathy, seeing as they’d be considered to have brought it upon themselves.
Didn’t anyone learn ANYTHING from the holocaust?
Saaamon:
So what you lot are saying is there wont be any truck driving jobs in the UK anymore when they lift the cabotage rules?
Once restrictions have been removed then there will be nothing really stopping companies flagging out to whatever country they wish. If they are operated soley within the UK I presume they will still have to pay their drivers the minimum wage, but I very much doubt that will be enforced across the board. I believe you do ferry freight work, you must have noticed that in the past five years the company stamp on many of your CMR’s from the 3rd party haulier who loads the trailers in Germany or Holland are increasingly, and for some companies entirely of companies from PL, LT, CZ, RO, BG etc and not Dutch or German trucks. They get away with it on the mainland as a Polish truck can carry on forever picking up a trailer from Europoort or Zeebrugge and delivering and reloading in Germany before taking it back. He can even do a few internal loads in Holland and Belgium, interupted by a trip to Germany etc. In the UK its not so easy for them as anything that arrives in Immingham, Harwich or Felixstowe will remain in the UK and by law they can only do 3 loads before leaving. This is widely ignored now but once these cabotage restrictions are removed why would Estron, Norfolk Line, Schenker and all the rest of them use British trucks with British drivers at British wages for their UK ferry freight work when they use almost entirely eastern European traction for their work on the mainland.
There will also be nothing to stop large UK domestic fleets to flag out either. There are already companies specialising in the whole process to allow companies to flag out their trucks and then employ Bulgarian drivers at “competetive” rates on those now Bulgarian trucks. Legally compliant companies will pay their Bulgarians (or whoever else) the legal minimum wage that they will be required to as they’re a British based company operating within Britain but how many British drivers are realistically going to accept those terms? Also whats to stop big British transport firms moving their base to lets say Sofia or Budapest and shifting their workforces contracts “off shore” so that the drivers are actually employed by the Bulgarian office or subsidiary etc.
I’d like to think this wont take place but even if only 5% of companies do it, the rest will be forced to compete on cost somehow, probably by taking advantage of the only route open to them, by doing the same thing.
Saaamon:
So what you lot are saying is there wont be any truck driving jobs in the UK anymore when they lift the cabotage rules?
Yes there will still be driving jobs within the uk but they will all be minimum wage which the Brits cant afford to live on, unless claiming tax credits etc, but you can bet your last dollar the Bulgarians and Romanians will be able to live on it as it will be a 50% increase for them and it isn’t only their wagons which can come and work here every one of their countrymen are allowed here come 2014 and apply for your or anyone’s job. look how many came from Poland when they were allowed in, construction workers, factory workers, drivers, warehouse workers. catering. bar work
airport staff, security staff, the list is endless and will be 10 times worse when BG and RM workers start arriving, start saving now and if you have any debt then start praying hard 
Any submariners on here? We can’t do much about the tunnel, but between us we could do quite a bit about the ferries!
The Coca Cola Kid:
Anyone from the UK who sets up in Bulgaria or Rumania will have to deal with the man who drives around in a ■■■■■■■■■ car with tinted windows and who employs lots of big men who wear leather coats and collect large amounts of cash every week.
You are spot on there !!!
A Pal of mine who is Latvian, visited Canada. Saw how Pizza was popular, and very profitable. He went back to Riga. Within 2 years he had 5 shops !!! and all were very profitable…
Then one day, he had a ‘Visit’ from the boys…
“Nice shop, I will have it… or you die”
He now lives in Toronto. But he lives…
So those rumours you hear; can be absolutely true in some cases…
How much longer before local hoods pretending to be local employers are given the same kind of power as those gangsters over there?
For evil to succeed, the good need only do nothing.