Solly:
Instead of some drivers on this forum sucking sour grapes in regard to tanker drivers, why dont you direct your sarcastic remarks to those who deserve it and who created this mess.
If the relevent info has bypassed you all… check below and the OP. ffs
“The new rules will apply until Thursday and have been introduced after requests from the fuel supply industry”.
Nite Nite.
Nite Nite
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God this forum is worse than any RDC at times. BTW After 28522 posts…you can do better than that eh?
Is it the drivers themselves, or the military drivers that will be exempt ?
And i couldnt give a ■■■■ who drives the tankers, so long as i get my fuel for the car, and fuel for the truck.
the irony of the so called relaxed hours just shows you how out of touch they really are. We are routed to the max every shift 12 hours on days then the night shift 10.45… so if anything when we are on nights they might be able to get another hour out of us.
We don’t do our basic hours it is now and has been maximum routing with enforced overtime every shift thats why the money does reach up to 40k. But that also includes Holiday days. We are only allowed to book off 5 working days a year, the rest you have to put in on rest days which pumps the money up again. And thats because like other companies they have cut back on drivers and units, but not because there was Lack of work, just because they wanted to squeeze for more profit.
Most of us dont want to work 60-70 hours a week and would be more than happy to do our basic which is what we signed for when we took the job. That basic is 34k which is 4k more than i was earning when at Salvesens night trunking.
I have posted before our hourly rate and the rolling shift pattern so if you are really that interested take a look. But all i will say the money is the ONLY good thing about the job. If i could get into Sainsbury’s at Hamms Hall i’d swap for there life and 14.80ph NOW
I think it must be the tanker drivers themselves as far as I know no military have yet touched a tanker.
And yes, should the tanker drivers actually work relaxed hours it will make a total mockery of their claims.
I dont care anylonger, because they dont.
I will look after myself and do exactly what I like, divided between analogue and digital
If yer can`t beat them, join them
aranger:
Did this not happen last year for all drivers during the heavy snow, sure it did up here anyway.
I’m on animal feeds, and IIRC the relaxation only allowed you to work every day for so many days; going over 15 hours duty or 10 hours driving was still forbidden.Don’t recall an extension of actual driving hours.
Plus you’d got to take minimum 9 hours rest, no exceptions.
Happy to be corrected though cos I ain’t got the bit of paper that set it all out, this just from memory.
aranger:
Did this not happen last year for all drivers during the heavy snow, sure it did up here anyway.
I’m on animal feeds, and IIRC the relaxation only allowed you to work every day for so many days; going over 15 hours duty or 10 hours driving was still forbidden.Don’t recall an extension of actual driving hours.
Plus you’d got to take minimum 9 hours rest, no exceptions.
Happy to be corrected though cos I ain’t got the bit of paper that set it all out, this just from memory.
My memories murder at the best of times but sure either last year or the year before it went up to driving ten every day if you wanted for a week or so which would have been 60 hours if you felt you where o/k.
aranger:
Did this not happen last year for all drivers during the heavy snow, sure it did up here anyway.
I’m on animal feeds, and IIRC the relaxation only allowed you to work every day for so many days; going over 15 hours duty or 10 hours driving was still forbidden.Don’t recall an extension of actual driving hours.
Plus you’d got to take minimum 9 hours rest, no exceptions.
Happy to be corrected though cos I ain’t got the bit of paper that set it all out, this just from memory.
My memories murder at the best of times but sure either last year or the year before it went up to driving ten every day if you wanted for a week or so which would have been 60 hours if you felt you where o/k.
del949:
I think it must be the tanker drivers themselves as far as I know no military have yet touched a tanker.
And yes, should the tanker drivers actually work relaxed hours it will make a total mockery of their claims.
Which could have been easily headed off by the Unite leadership making a clear statement that all of it’s members will be working as to their usual established workplace practices and hours regardless of the government lifting of the hours regs until such time as any action is taken.
Solly:
Instead of some drivers on this forum sucking sour grapes in regard to tanker drivers, why dont you direct your sarcastic remarks to those who deserve it and who created this mess.
If the relevent info has bypassed you all… check below and the OP. ffs
“The new rules will apply until Thursday and have been introduced after requests from the fuel supply industry”.
Nite Nite.
Nite Nite
Overtired
God this forum is worse than any RDC at times. BTW After 28522 posts…you can do better than that eh?
This time it is Nite Nite. I’m drained.
It’s not a bad average over 6 weeks Solly
By the way, there are no sour grapes as I have done tankers since 1979/80. It was my choice to stop
del949:
I think it must be the tanker drivers themselves as far as I know no military have yet touched a tanker.
And yes, should the tanker drivers actually work relaxed hours it will make a total mockery of their claims.
Hoyer have trained 80 military drivers on fuel tankers. Another 80 blokes to join the 3000 already on the books. That should make things easier when they hit civvy street.
Well going to ten every day is an increase, there is a provision in the law to increase hours during emergencies so the Government are not going to face any law suits.
Tanker drivers cried their eyes out for more money because they claimed their conditions were poor, so they got their big bucks.
Now they want better conditions.
Best of luck to them but this is about less hours for the same pay, this 11 hours is to make the Government look like they are making the tough choices and hiding the fact they just gave unite their head on a plate by creating this panic.
The Drivers will quite rightly win easily now and will be sensible enough to knock this back and will make a big song and dance about doing so.
Public schoolboys. 2.
Private schoolboys. 0.
Full time score, another rise and quiet again till 6 months before the election, I want in.
wills:
the irony of the so called relaxed hours just shows you how out of touch they really are. We are routed to the max every shift 12 hours on days then the night shift 10.45… so if anything when we are on nights they might be able to get another hour out of us.
We don’t do our basic hours it is now and has been maximum routing with enforced overtime every shift thats why the money does reach up to 40k. But that also includes Holiday days. We are only allowed to book off 5 working days a year, the rest you have to put in on rest days which pumps the money up again. And thats because like other companies they have cut back on drivers and units, but not because there was Lack of work, just because they wanted to squeeze for more profit.
Most of us dont want to work 60-70 hours a week and would be more than happy to do our basic which is what we signed for when we took the job. That basic is 34k which is 4k more than i was earning when at Salvesens night trunking.
I have posted before our hourly rate and the rolling shift pattern so if you are really that interested take a look. But all i will say the money is the ONLY good thing about the job. If i could get into Sainsbury’s at Hamms Hall i’d swap for there life and 14.80ph NOW
My heart bleeds for you…
If you don’t like it… get out
I’ll have your job… you can have mine.
… With Littlewoods/Yodel it is probably the easiest job in the world.
Permanent Days or Nights. You choose
Maximum 10 hours per day but usually more like 8½.
Of that driving for probably 3 or 4, rest of the time waiting for trailers.
I use approx 65 litres of diesel per day.
Sounds like heaven… and it is
BUT I’m on only ½ the money you earn.
I’m not complaining but I would love to get on the tankers and earn that sort of money for 5 or 10 years then drop back into something else.
So the tanker drivers balloted for a strike that never happened because of safety fears.
The government paniced and brought the country to its knees and the tanker drivers have to spend more hours driving!
Have i got the date wrong, it’s actually April 1st?
Over here in Australia, it is an Logbook carbon copy you fill out everyday, they claim you can drive 12 hours a day and if you do the Basic Fatigue Management course it goes up and even further up if you do the Advance Fatigue mangement course. I will take a Pic and post it on here.
Basic Fatigue Management - Advanced Fatigue Management courses - crikey if they hear of such things our Lords and Masters in Brussells will be implementing such courses in the not too distant.
wills:
the irony of the so called relaxed hours just shows you how out of touch they really are. We are routed to the max every shift 12 hours on days then the night shift 10.45… so if anything when we are on nights they might be able to get another hour out of us.
We don’t do our basic hours it is now and has been maximum routing with enforced overtime every shift thats why the money does reach up to 40k. But that also includes Holiday days. We are only allowed to book off 5 working days a year, the rest you have to put in on rest days which pumps the money up again. And thats because like other companies they have cut back on drivers and units, but not because there was Lack of work, just because they wanted to squeeze for more profit.
Most of us dont want to work 60-70 hours a week and would be more than happy to do our basic which is what we signed for when we took the job. That basic is 34k which is 4k more than i was earning when at Salvesens night trunking.
I have posted before our hourly rate and the rolling shift pattern so if you are really that interested take a look. But all i will say the money is the ONLY good thing about the job. If i could get into Sainsbury’s at Hamms Hall i’d swap for there life and 14.80ph NOW
Can i just take this back a notch, if what you say above is right then why did you have to call for a strike, why didn’t you vote for a work to rule.
Tell your planners one day “sorry i’m only doing 2 days with OT next week”. if you are doing max hours every week because thats how they plan your week then you are being bullied, if your being bullied then that is your own fault, because i’ll bet your contract of employent doesn’t say you will work maximum hours every week it will say a reasonably amount of OT is required/expected, its what you and your union decide what is reasonable.
If your union thinks it is big enough to face up to the bosses by withdrawing labour entirely then why aren’t they there for you if you want to work shorter hours.
James Bateman2:
Basic Fatigue Management - Advanced Fatigue Management courses - crikey if they hear of such things our Lords and Masters in Brussells will be implementing such courses in the not too distant.
Or does the ever popular CPC cover this ?
They are still driving crash gear boxes over here, mainly crappy yank kenworths, thankfully the big supermarkets ie Coles, Woolworths and Aldi are going for Volvo, Man and Mercs. *(auto)
I really do nto fancy driving half the [zb] they have here, prefer the uk trucks and roads!!!
With the old wrecks it is tiring so god knows how someone can legally do a 14 hour drive in a truck due to a stupid AFM course
Mr B:
So the tanker drivers balloted for a strike that never happened because of safety fears.
The government paniced and brought the country to its knees and the tanker drivers have to spend more hours driving!
Have i got the date wrong, it’s actually April 1st?
Yep, as someone said - you couldn’t make it up.
And these drivers WILL put in more hours and make lots more money on top of what they’re already making.
Still, no surprise this is happening after the Energy Secretary had a meeting with a handful of haulage companies (the army won’t be required) on Thursday to arrange cover for the possible strike action.
Unite = no balls! Tanker drivers = no balls, no courage in their apparent convictions, no real integrity!
