Newbie with Q's

Hello and good morning to you all.

I have been employed as a delivery driver for the last three weeks, driving nothing bigger than a long wheel base van. This means I have to to a few journeys to collect stock on a Monday. My employer is possibly getting a 7.5 ton wagon which I will need to drive one day a week. I have never driven one before, though it is on my licences (I passed my test in the 80’s).

Do I need specific training prior to driving one or would you recommend it ant way? I will mainly be driving up and down the motorway.

Any advice welcome.

Thanks in advance.

NorvernSpur:
Do I need specific training prior to driving one or would you recommend it ant way?

You wont legally require any additional training but for your own peace of mind you might want to consider a couple of hours with a local trainer.

You will require a digital tachograph card if the vehicle was registered after 1st may 2006 as that is when the tachographs changed from analogue to digital.

You will also need to attend 35 hours Periodic CPC training before 9th Sept this year as you wont be able to drive commercially after that date without holding a Driver CPC card.

I’m sure there will be further advice along here soon.

Driving the 7.5 for 1 day a week means that records for all other work that shift and for all the other shifts in the week must also be officially recorded for the regs

If you are using a 3.5 tonne van on the other days then UK domestic record sheets will be acceptable for the EU regs

Domestic records count as other work (not driving) for the EU regs

7.5 driving day is under the RT(WT)R
3.5 driving day is under the normal WTD
The two sets do not get added together

You need 35 hours of driver cpc training to continue driving the 7.5 (C1) LGV after 09/09/2014 - who is going to pay for that? - legally the onus is on you but there is nothing to stop your employer paying for the 35 hours

If your employers instructs you or pays for your time to go on the 35 hours then that counts as other work for the EU regs

In any week where no 7.5 driving was done then no records are required for the EU regs

does that about cover it?

Do you work in the Leicester area?

NorvernSpur:
Hello and good morning to you all.

I have been employed as a delivery driver for the last three weeks, driving nothing bigger than a long wheel base van. This means I have to to a few journeys to collect stock on a Monday. My employer is possibly getting a 7.5 ton wagon which I will need to drive one day a week. I have never driven one before, though it is on my licences (I passed my test in the 80’s).

Do I need specific training prior to driving one or would you recommend it ant way? I will mainly be driving up and down the motorway.

I’d been driving 7.5-tonne trucks for 12 years before taking my class 2 last November. When I first started driving them, I was told that the vehicle operated like “a big diesel car” and it only had four gears (though most had five) and there was nothing much different apart from the driving position. The truck is wider than a van and most will not get through any 7ft width limit, let alone anything smaller. These days many are automatics, but they don’t function like car automatics; in particular, putting it in drive won’t make it go, and won’t stop it rolling the wrong way. They can be hit-and-miss when putting them in gear as well.

If it’s a fairly new truck (pretty much any since about 2006), you’ll need a digital tachograph card, which you or your employer need to get from the DVLA - look here: Apply for a driver digital tachograph card - GOV.UK

Nearly all 7.5-tonners nowadays have speed limiters, which means you can’t do more than 56mph. Otherwise, speed limits are the same as for vans (i.e. max 50mph on single carriageways, 60mph on dual carriageways). You can’t use the outside lane of a motorway if there are three or more lanes, except on rare occasions where there is a slip road going off to the right.

You are subject to European HGV driving hours rules, which means you have to take a 45-minute break after a total of 4.5 hours driving. (You can take an earlier 15min break and then cut the main break to 30mins, but you can’t break it up any other way, e.g. take 20 then 25 later or 30 then 15 later.) In addition, you have to take a 30min break after 6hrs work, including driving. As you will be driving the truck only one day a week, you cannot drive for a total of more than 10 hours in that day. (If you’re driving it all week, it’s 9 hours normally, extending to 10 twice a week.)

Your boss will need an operator’s licence.

ROG:
Do you work in the Leicester area?

No, in North Yorks

Thnks for the info guys. Plenty of food for thought.

Deffo get a bit practice in a relaxed environment and just be steady and safe u b fine…