Dft trial of 15.6m trailers is ending early. Reform of laws will permit all hauliers to run longer trailers, and upper weight limit will be 48t.
Consultation will run till new year. Almost certain to be implemented.
Will mean a lot of change for a lot of people
I haul containers, so will be interesting to see how that develops and how quickly current vehicles and trailers become obsolete.
Ha…missed that. Was news to me anyway.
Janos:
Dft trial of 15.6m trailers is ending early. Reform of laws will permit all hauliers to run longer trailers, and upper weight limit will be 48t.
All the extra length on the over hangs to keep cut in the same what could possibly go wrong.
Janos:
I haul containers, so will be interesting to see how that develops and how quickly current vehicles and trailers become obsolete.
What difference would it make when 40/45ft containers go on standard length trailers.
Nothing short of allowing 6 and 8 wheeler rigids pulling a 5 axle 40ft drawbar trailer with up to 65t-70t gross, allowing a 20ft and a 40ft, or 3 20ft containers, would make much difference.
That would also be a more stable outfit with lower axle weights and less lightly to end up with a light fifth wheel situation of an extended over hang artic outfit.
Seems to me that the ubiquitous 40ft container will be replaced by the 45ft too, but it also seems inevitable to me that equipment will have to change to accommodate the extra length and weight if it is the new normal. Having to alter trailer length, pull out underrun bar and use front pins to satisfy turning circle requirements, and then the issues with overhang front and back will force change.
Janos:
Seems to me that the ubiquitous 40ft container will be replaced by the 45ft too, but it also seems inevitable to me that equipment will have to change to accommodate the extra length and weight if it is the new normal. Having to alter trailer length, pull out underrun bar and use front pins to satisfy turning circle requirements, and then the issues with overhang front and back will force change.
Ships are still built and measured in 20’ TEU
Wheel Nut:
Janos:
Seems to me that the ubiquitous 40ft container will be replaced by the 45ft too, but it also seems inevitable to me that equipment will have to change to accommodate the extra length and weight if it is the new normal. Having to alter trailer length, pull out underrun bar and use front pins to satisfy turning circle requirements, and then the issues with overhang front and back will force change.Ships are still built and measured in 20’ TEU
Yep. The UK changing trucks won’t much affect US, Chinese, or Japanese shipping.
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Unless they really are all dependent on us?
Carryfast:
Janos:
I haul containers, so will be interesting to see how that develops and how quickly current vehicles and trailers become obsolete.
What difference would it make when 40/45ft containers go on standard length trailers.
Nothing short of allowing 6 and 8 wheeler rigids pulling a 5 axle 40ft drawbar trailer with up to 65t-70t gross, allowing a 20ft and a 40ft, or 3 20ft containers, would make much difference.
That would also be a more stable outfit with lower axle weights and less lightly to end up with a light fifth wheel situation of an extended over hang artic outfit.
“Standard” length trailers?
13.6m has been very common for a long time here in the UK.
(That’s 45ft for those who live in the USA, or 1950)
Customers will drive change. Will we see a 50ft container?
Just read an article on BBC about China’s singles day;
“Cainiao, the logistics arm of Alibaba, said it is using more than 3,000 chartered flights and long-haul cargo ships to bring goods into China.”
So unless UK becomes the centre of global trade the 20ft & 40ft box will remain the standard.
Franglais:
Carryfast:
Janos:
I haul containers, so will be interesting to see how that develops and how quickly current vehicles and trailers become obsolete.
What difference would it make when 40/45ft containers go on standard length trailers.
Nothing short of allowing 6 and 8 wheeler rigids pulling a 5 axle 40ft drawbar trailer with up to 65t-70t gross, allowing a 20ft and a 40ft, or 3 20ft containers, would make much difference.
That would also be a more stable outfit with lower axle weights and less lightly to end up with a light fifth wheel situation of an extended over hang artic outfit.“Standard” length trailers?
13.6m has been very common for a long time here in the UK.
(That’s 45ft for those who live in the USA, or 1950)
45ft containers go on 40 ft skeletal trailers they also have twistlock provision to carry them on 40 ft skeletals.It’s just more over hang at each end in that case.
So why would 15.6 m trailers make any difference to containers ?.
As I said only 6 or 8 wheeler rigid and 40-45 ft drawbar at 65-70t gross would make any difference.
Although could maybe understand two 20’s or a 40/45 ft container on a 15.6 PSK or skele if that means it’s allowed to run at 48t gross ?.
Would the extra 4t be worth it.
But ironically less chance of a light pin in that case.
As was pointed out to me just yesterday, 48-tonnes only works if they let us have 10.5t drive axles back as well…
Lucy:
As was pointed out to me just yesterday, 48-tonnes only works if they let us have 10.5t drive axles back as well…
HOW
The ever accurate and high quality Daily Mail with highly accurate info as usual. I like the idea of hippos being a unit of measurement. ‘Sorry drive, you’re one and a half hippos over on the pin’
switchlogic:
0The ever accurate and high quality Daily Mail with highly accurate info as usual
Media execs trying to explain how trucks work.Who would have thought it.
switchlogic:
0The ever accurate and high quality Daily Mail with highly accurate info as usual. I like the idea of hippos being a unit of measurement. ‘Sorry drive, you’re one and a half hippos over on the pin’
Makes a change from the standard unit of land area: " it’s 5 times the size of W(h)ales".