Not turck related I know but still
For record the check site is rubbish tells you nothing
It’s all to do with getting old (think pre 60 plates ) cars and bikes off the road
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I’ve for 2007 astra nothing wrong with it . God knows if car will run ok…or my bike for that matter
rearaxle:
It’s all to do with getting old (think pre 60 plates ) cars and bikes off the road
No, it’s about making petrol more biofuel. Many cars and bikes pre-60 will work just fine. Some can be adapted. Basically it all boils down to whether things like seals and gaskets are OK with the higher ethanol content.
you can still buy Esso Super unleaded,and similar,which is E5 at worst.
The manufacturers were told in 2000 to expect ethanol to be added to fuel. Most vehicles sold post 2000 had some form of modification to accomodate it & anything designed & developed after that date should be OK with it.
This is not to say that all vehicles post 2000 run OK with ethanol. Try parking it up for a few weeks & see what happens !
I know a LOT about this subject, I’m making £40k+ a year selling parts to help keep classic motorcycles on the road. I know what the problems are & I know that they knew all this back in 2000.
This has NOTHING to do with making fuel a little bit greener. It is everything to do with sucking $$$'s out of your pocket by people who don’t care that your 1972 Honda 750 will soon be rendered useless because your carbs have rotted away. Most cars can have an ethanol proof carb grafted on, motorcycles “who cares”?
They have spent £millions on PR Co’s who inject soshal meedya with fake info & flood forums with shills who shout down any sensible discussion of whether it’s a good idea to blend a young plant based alcohol with our traditional fossil fuels.
It might not affect you & I’m happy for you if you can snuffle your little giggle at the misfortune of all those hooligans who cherish their classic vehicles, but hear me now . . . They got away with this, they’re moving their efforts towards you as you read this.
MickCharity:
The manufacturers were told in 2000 to expect ethanol to be added to fuel. Most vehicles sold post 2000 had some form of modification to accomodate it & anything designed & developed after that date should be OK with it.This is not to say that all vehicles post 2000 run OK with ethanol. Try parking it up for a few weeks & see what happens !
I know a LOT about this subject, I’m making £40k+ a year selling parts to help keep classic motorcycles on the road. I know what the problems are & I know that they knew all this back in 2000.
This has NOTHING to do with making fuel a little bit greener. It is everything to do with sucking $$$'s out of your pocket by people who don’t care that your 1972 Honda 750 will soon be rendered useless because your carbs have rotted away. Most cars can have an ethanol proof carb grafted on, motorcycles “who cares”?
They have spent £millions on PR Co’s who inject soshal meedya with fake info & flood forums with shills who shout down any sensible discussion of whether it’s a good idea to blend a young plant based alcohol with our traditional fossil fuels.
It might not affect you & I’m happy for you if you can snuffle your little giggle at the misfortune of all those hooligans who cherish their classic vehicles, but hear me now . . . They got away with this, they’re moving their efforts towards you as you read this.
Hmmm…similar comments about leaded petrol phase out.
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edd1974:
Not turck related I know but still
For record the check site is rubbish tells you nothing
Has the UK really only just started using E10.
We’ve had it here for at least 15 years 
How will this effect 2 & 4-stroke garden tools?
LazyDriver:
How will this effect 2 & 4-stroke garden tools?
Do not use E10, we have it here in Australia,… stick to 95 or 98 … it burns faster and wrecks cars…. No matter how good the government tell you it is, they are lying. My car has a sign saying no E10 to be used. And it’s a 2019 model.
The price of electricity - has quadrupled over the past five years, but hey - let’s all go green, and change our cars that have good resale values for ones that are totally spent in ten years, them needing to be recycled rather than sold on…
Am I wrong? - Where is the second hand market for electric vehicles?
MSA power points. Seen lots of them vacant, lots of them vandalized - but no one actually using one.
Since forecourts are not going to sell the old blend of petrol before long - will they still pay out like they do when Tanker Bod puts the wrong juice into the wrong bunker? if and when you break down 100 yards outside the forecourt after filling up…?
You fill up with petrol cut with ethanol - which still has CO2 from complete combustion of btw
I would imagine the engine runs a bit hotter, a lot more pinking - but otherwise likely cleaner, and with lower performance all around… It is a shame this super-duper petrol - couldn’t have involved knocking around 30p/litre off the price rather than the 30p ON the price we’ve already seen this past year… 
been talking to fella at motorbike garage. he reckons as long as bike is fuel injected its safe to use.
im guessing that applies to cars as well.
but he also said it goes off quicker than normal petrol.
he said if use my bike on a regular basis be fine.
but if leave it standing for more than a few weeks month at most dont bother. as will start to go off and cause problems
It’s easy enough to get the ethanol out of petrol using just tap water and a few drops of food colouring, plenty of videos on YouTube about it.
Harry Monk:
It’s easy enough to get the ethanol out of petrol using just tap water and a few drops of food colouring, plenty of videos on YouTube about it.
Money saving tip!
Get added value by saving the extract in wine bottles, and serving it to your guests at BBQs.
It’s a ploy…
To destroy everyone’s engine thereby forcing us to buy electric cars.
I can see a point in my life where I don’t need my own transport, which I’m thinking is what they want anyway.
From the same clueless authorities that said ‘everyone buy diesel’.
MickCharity:
I know a LOT about this subject, I’m making £40k+ a year selling parts to help keep classic motorcycles on the road.
You’re a sales droid, you probably don’t even know one end of a spanner from another. If I wanted a valid opinion I’d ask a mechanic, not someone who works on a checkout. I don’t think I’ll be needing to ask advice from someone whose sole expertise consists of answering the phone, taking an order, putting sometihng in a box and sticking a label on it. That makes you as much of an expert about the subject as the ■■■■■■■ the till at Boots is about brain surgery.
This has NOTHING to do with making fuel a little bit greener. It is everything to do with sucking $$$'s out of your pocket by people who don’t care that your 1972 Honda 750 will soon be rendered useless because your carbs have rotted away. Most cars can have an ethanol proof carb grafted on, motorcycles “who cares”?
They have spent £millions on PR Co’s who inject soshal meedya with fake info & flood forums with shills who shout down any sensible discussion of whether it’s a good idea to blend a young plant based alcohol with our traditional fossil fuels.
Same crap was claimed by similar “experts who work in the business” (anyone who believes that you’re one I’ve a bridge to sell) about unleaded and yet classic cars are around running on unleaded 30 years later. Worst that happened is you had to take the head off, take it to a reconditioners and have some hardened valve seats fitted and then change the ignition timing a bit, a job well within the capabilities of many classic car owners.
We already have E5 which is 5% Ethanol so another 5% isn’t going to kill any more cars off. I just did a random selection of cars on our street and they can all use E10, even an old 1992 Fiesta that the neighbours son has bought 
edd1974:
been talking to fella at motorbike garage. he reckons as long as bike is fuel injected its safe to use.
im guessing that applies to cars as well.
but he also said it goes off quicker than normal petrol.
he said if use my bike on a regular basis be fine.
but if leave it standing for more than a few weeks month at most dont bother. as will start to go off and cause problems
That already happens with Unleaded fuel, it gets gummy and blocks float chambers and jets up, my mate makes a living from lawnmowers after winter layup.
Wheel Nut:
That already happens with Unleaded fuel, it gets gummy and blocks float chambers and jets up, my mate makes a living from lawnmowers after winter layup.
Aren`t the gums from component compounds in the petrol?
So, leaded or not, with ethanol or not, they will always be there in approx the same amount?
We were successfully racing in grasstrack and speedway and the fuel used is Methanol, however it is hygroscopic and its advisable to drain the tank after each race, Ethanol is also hygroscopic in lesser measure but I would make sure it wasn’t stood for months.
The downside of Ethanol is that it is not as energy efficient as Petroleum Spirit so you may get lower MPG figures and as Diesel and Petrol are now the same price, if you have a diesel car, look after it, keep it. 