toonsy:
Carryfast:
MeatCannon:
It’s something i’ve always fancied doing. I love driving. To me happiness is more valuable than money.
You’re a few decades too late unfortunately.The government wants to take as many trucks and as much freight off the roads as possible.
While even when the industry was at its peak getting the best work was always a lottery.
I’m happier driving cars around the country now than many of the crap jobs out there I did driving trucks.
Will you give it a [zb] rest
Plenty of people, including myself, have actually gone on to achieve everything they’ve wanted to and more from the industry.
Don’t be bitter and try and ■■■■ on someone else’s chips because you’re a failure who lacked any gumption who didnt even have enough about them to demonstrate to any company at even the height of UK/Continent work that you should be trusted to do anything other than the [zb] you ended up doing.
When I was lurking I used to be shocked by the level of hostility shown towards Carryfast, then I started posting and now I totally get it.
toonsy:
Carryfast:
You’re a few decades too late unfortunately.The government wants to take as many trucks and as much freight off the roads as possible.
While even when the industry was at its peak getting the best work was always a lottery.
I’m happier driving cars around the country now than many of the crap jobs out there I did driving trucks.
Will you give it a [zb] rest
Plenty of people, including myself, have actually gone on to achieve everything they’ve wanted to and more from the industry.
Don’t be bitter and try and ■■■■ on someone else’s chips because you’re a failure who lacked any gumption who didnt even have enough about them to demonstrate to any company at even the height of UK/Continent work that you should be trusted to do anything other than the [zb] you ended up doing.
100% spot on. Everything you need to know about Carryfast and his failure as a lorry driver can be summed up by the fact he couldn’t get a job doing Euro work at the peak of Euro work, when it was seemingly impossible not to get a job doing it should you so wish.
driveress:
When I was lurking I used to be shocked by the level of hostility shown towards Carryfast, then I started posting and now I totally get it.
Yep, brings it all on himself with his relentless whining and ■■■■■■■■. Fails to see the problem is staring back at him in the mirror and goes on like a broken record with his “warehouse duties” and “site labourer” borefest.
tmcassett:
driveress:
When I was lurking I used to be shocked by the level of hostility shown towards Carryfast, then I started posting and now I totally get it.
Yep, brings it all on himself with his relentless whining and ■■■■■■■■. Fails to see the problem is staring back at him in the mirror and goes on like a broken record with his “warehouse duties” and “site labourer” borefest.
I doubt if the OP gives a zb about the personal hostility against me.
While if I’m so wrong then he wouldn’t have needed to start a topic about being misled.He would have posted about how good the job is.
Ironically your bs just confirms everything that’s wrong with it and which can only get worse as more of the best quality work moves to rail by government policy.
Muddy K:
I passed my class 2 on 25th Feb.
I found myself in a similar situation. Plenty of fishing but no bites. To make it more difficult I also have a criminal conviction.
I felt a bit deflated by the lack of responses to my applications so I signed up to an agency who put me in touch with a kitchen company. 13 week temp to perm, some nights out but salary on offer was 26k for 45hours.
I was thinking salary was low, but then luckily one of the adverts I had applied for did get back to me (one of the brakes subsidiary companies). Their advert did say experience required but I applied anyways. Arranged an interview/driving assessment as was offered the job on the spot. I must have been the last one on their pile.
I start on Monday and salary is 31k. New pass, straight into a permanent position. However the job is a graft with early starts so they must not have had many applications. But it’s a start.
Keep trying and good luck.
It’ll be hard work for sure, but you’ll gain experience in bucket loads. It’s a good stepping stone and you can sharpen skills up ready for the next move.
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
driveress:
When I was lurking I used to be shocked by the level of hostility shown towards Carryfast, then I started posting and now I totally get it.
Yep, brings it all on himself with his relentless whining and ■■■■■■■■. Fails to see the problem is staring back at him in the mirror and goes on like a broken record with his “warehouse duties” and “site labourer” borefest.
I doubt if the OP gives a zb about the personal hostility against me.
While if I’m so wrong then he wouldn’t have needed to start a topic about being misled.He would have posted about how good the job is.
Ironically your bs just confirms everything that’s wrong with it and which can only get worse as more of the best quality work moves to rail by government policy.
What BS would that be then from me?
The OP is a new driver to the lorry world, by that very nature it’s unlikely he will walk into one of the better jobs straight away, although its not actually impossible these days. He has stated he only passed his test on the 1st March, so not anything out of the ordinary to not have landed a job after less than 3 weeks - especially as a new driver and with having a more specific demand of what he is after!
P.S a quick bit of advice for the OP if he is still reading this thread - ignore any advice or opinion from Carryfast, a man who failed as a lorry driver and who hasn’t been able to get a lorry driving job since the 90’s because of his poor attitude and laziness, yet continually comes on here and whines like a little girl about mythical pecking orders for the best work or claims we are all spending our shifts working in the warehouse doing non driving related tasks!
tmcassett:
P.S a quick bit of advice for the OP if he is still reading this thread - ignore any advice or opinion from Carryfast, a man who failed as a lorry driver and who hasn’t been able to get a lorry driving job since the 90’s because of his poor attitude and laziness, yet continually comes on here and whines like a little girl about mythical pecking orders for the best work or claims we are all spending our shifts working in the warehouse doing non driving related tasks!
Bearing in mind that your definition of a truck driver is the ability and willingness to be used as a site or warehouse labourer as opposed to the ability to actually handle a truck.
In the knowledge of the exact circumstances as to how I went out of the job which obviously makes you a liar.
It also seems to say a lot about your own point of reference.
It’s up to the OP if he wants to follow your advice bearing in mind that his motivation for entering the industry is to drive.
Not to end up going out of the job on medical grounds caused by being used as a general labourer because the government wants to minimise truck miles and as part of a job allocation scam in which ‘experienced’ drivers think they have first choice of what decent work is left.
Much of that ‘experience’ being made up bs to jump the queue of hopefuls.
MeatCannon:
chester1:
MeatCannon:
Hi all. Newbie to the forums here. So it seems i was sold a lie by the UK government. I went in for my class 1 hoping for a change in jobs but all the jobs i have been applying for aren’t interested unless I have experience. But how do you get experience if nobody will take you on. I am quite specific in what I need so maybe that is the issue? I want to start at tea time(ish) but I don’t want tramping. I think most work for me would be trunking? Anyway if anybody knows of any companies in West Yorkshire that take on new passes for an evening shift then please could you point me in the right direction. I have held a bus license for 11 years but i don’t think that will count for anything will it? Thanks in advance.
You wasn’t sold a lie you just didn’t do any research apart from looking at the top line wages . As for the bus licence it won’t count for anything if you don’t tell them……
Actually I didn’t look at any wages I just thought I would be able to get a job out of it, due to the “shortage”. Money doesn’t faze me too many people think money is the be all and end all. I’m taking a pay cut to work on the wagons.
Then unless you actually hate your current job, why don’t you just do 1 day every other weekend to dip your toe in whilst gaining experience and contacts?
You might love it, or the novelty might wear off and think you’d be better stopping in the office
Good paying jobs for 37 hours without the right qualifications are hard to come by
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
driveress:
When I was lurking I used to be shocked by the level of hostility shown towards Carryfast, then I started posting and now I totally get it.
Yep, brings it all on himself with his relentless whining and ■■■■■■■■. Fails to see the problem is staring back at him in the mirror and goes on like a broken record with his “warehouse duties” and “site labourer” borefest.
I doubt if the OP gives a zb about the personal hostility against me.
While if I’m so wrong then he wouldn’t have needed to start a topic about being misled.He would have posted about how good the job is.
Ironically your bs just confirms everything that’s wrong with it and which can only get worse as more of the best quality work moves to rail by government policy.
In your opinion is the best quality of work, it’s not mine
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
P.S a quick bit of advice for the OP if he is still reading this thread - ignore any advice or opinion from Carryfast, a man who failed as a lorry driver and who hasn’t been able to get a lorry driving job since the 90’s because of his poor attitude and laziness, yet continually comes on here and whines like a little girl about mythical pecking orders for the best work or claims we are all spending our shifts working in the warehouse doing non driving related tasks!
Bearing in mind that your definition of a truck driver is the ability and willingness to be used as a site or warehouse labourer as opposed to the ability to actually handle a truck.
In the knowledge of the exact circumstances as to how I went out of the job which obviously makes you a liar.
It also seems to say a lot about your own point of reference.
It’s up to the OP if he wants to follow your advice bearing in mind that his motivation for entering the industry is to drive.
Not to end up going out of the job on medical grounds caused by being used as a general labourer because the government wants to minimise truck miles and as part of a job allocation scam in which ‘experienced’ drivers think they have first choice of what decent work is left.
Much of that ‘experience’ being made up bs to jump the queue of hopefuls.
My point is proven - you are totally clueless about what is “actually” involved in the majority of lorry driving jobs these days. Not surprising since you haven’t been able to get one for over 20 years!
I’m sure there are “some” more physical jobs and I’m sure the drivers doing those jobs are happy doing them but the vast majority of us do nothing of the sorts that you continually describe and have brainwashed yourself into believing. Those thoughts are living rent free in your head and it clearly is eating you up inside knowing you failed while the rest of us have managed to get what we wanted from the job.
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
It’s up to the OP if he wants to follow your advice bearing in mind that his motivation for entering the industry is to drive.
Not to end up going out of the job on medical grounds caused by being used as a general labourer because the government wants to minimise truck miles and as part of a job allocation scam in which ‘experienced’ drivers think they have first choice of what decent work is left.
Much of that ‘experience’ being made up bs to jump the queue of hopefuls.
My point is proven - you are totally clueless about what is “actually” involved in the majority of lorry driving jobs these days. Not surprising since you haven’t been able to get one for over 20 years!
I’m sure there are “some” more physical jobs and I’m sure the drivers doing those jobs are happy doing them but the vast majority of us do nothing of the sorts that you continually describe and have brainwashed yourself into believing. Those thoughts are living rent free in your head and it clearly is eating you up inside knowing you failed while the rest of us have managed to get what we wanted from the job.
If there is supposedly so much of the right type of work then the OP obviously won’t need to take the ‘wrong’ type of work because he’s a new driver
As for others getting what they want yes often by rigging their own bs experience rules with made up bs at the expense of others to jump the queue.
As for me almost 15 years of doing decent enough work all brought to an end by being used as a warehouse labourer in a pointless attempt to reduce truck mileage.
But things could have been better if I’d have known when to walk away from a zb job.
stevieboy308:
In your opinion is the best quality of work, it’s not mine
But you’re not the OP.
If someone says that they are entering the industry because they love driving then distance trunking or tramping is the default choice.
No surprise that’s the type of work which is least affected by any ‘driver shortage’ but most affected by the ‘experience’ issue.
As opposed to class 2 local multi drop, or building materials bonus points if it involves a lot of hand ball.
Seems to me that a lot of people protest too much when I tell new drivers don’t be a mug.
Especially being lumbered with 7.5t or class 2 work with a class 1.
Hi Meat! (ew),
I am class 2 but passed back last July. I also wanted something stable as I was also changing careers from being a Paramedic my entire adult life (I’m 52 now). I applied for 50+ jobs and rarely got a callback but the agencies were glad to have me. I started with Contract Personnel who were quite easy to get along with and paid me more per hour than most permanent jobs. They have a pension plan available as well. There’s nothing wrong with agency work to get experience! I was able to go on after 6 months to get a full time job with a company that I really enjoy working for. I did register with probably 6 agencies over the last 7 months, but only Contract Personnel gave me regular work. They were begging for Class 1 drivers. Agency work will get you by…addressing your apprehension of changing careers. You won’t get rich on it, but it definitely gets your foot in the door and gets you the experience you need to move to permanent employer. I too was quite apprehensive and my salary did drop some during the change of professions, but you just have to plan for that and take that leap of faith. I am interviewing this morning with Shred Station as they are much closer to home and pay a little more so it’s just step by step getting to where I want to be. Best of luck to you and just go get those agency jobs!!!
MeatCannon:
shullbit:
MeatCannon:
msgyorkie:
As I have said in the past…so called driver shortage with so called big paydays have attracted people who do not understand the nature of haulage and the many stupid rules and hoops to jump through. Blinded by the promise of big money
Should stay on the buses mate this job is garbage anyway
the job i have now pays more than 99% of any truck driving jobs, and i only do 37 hours.
So why would you want to drive a HGV?
It’s something i’ve always fancied doing. I love driving. To me happiness is more valuable than money.
I get it mate I was exactly the same, and tbf I had a lot of good years at it, but that is because I chose tramping.
Reality check,.remove the rosy specs…since those days the job has turned into an over regulated micro managed cluster ■■■■ of a job,.a rat race with ridiculous long hours followed by ridiculous short rest periods, and if you are a newbie you have not got the advantage of an experienced driver to argue with them and/or tell them to go and ■■■■ themselves, but will have to take whatever they chuck at you.
So sorry to ■■■■ on your chips mate,.and I know you have alteady spent your cash, but leaving a steady job doing a 37 hour week to go trunking on some mundane supermarket delivery job.on 2x the hours for the same money does not, nor will not correlate with the word ‘‘happinesss’’.
What about long distance coach tours maybe European tours, if I was a bus driver that would be my goal, not driving a truck up and down the motorway on the same route every day…on the other hand there will be those on here that disagree, but that is my view anyhoo.
Btw I hope you find something you like doing, so good luck with it all, but lower tyour expectations a bit. 
Seems to me that a lot of people protest too much when I tell new drivers don’t be a mug
It’s how you tell us and how often that’s the problem, Carryfast.
driveress:
Seems to me that a lot of people protest too much when I tell new drivers don’t be a mug
It’s how you tell us and how often that’s the problem, Carryfast.
Define ‘us’.
I didn’t see any complaints by the OP nor any of the others who I’ve advised same as him.
It’s obvious that ‘some’ people don’t like anyone advising new drivers to not be a mug. In allowing themselves to get stitched up, by a clique who want to keep what remains of the best work for themselves.Based on playing the ‘experience’ card ( laughably too often and as it suits them ).
I’ve repeatedly stated that now way should anyone spend money on learning to become a truck driver, instead spend the money on whiskey, cigars and whores. At least that way you’ll have some memorable moments for the money you spent
Carryfast:
Seems to me that a lot of people protest too much when I tell new drivers don’t be a mug.
Especially being lumbered with 7.5t or class 2 work with a class 1.
Because it’s not valid advice, from a depth of experience; it’s a bitter “dog in a manger” attitude borne from total failure.
Carryfast:
tmcassett:
Carryfast:
It’s up to the OP if he wants to follow your advice bearing in mind that his motivation for entering the industry is to drive.
Not to end up going out of the job on medical grounds caused by being used as a general labourer because the government wants to minimise truck miles and as part of a job allocation scam in which ‘experienced’ drivers think they have first choice of what decent work is left.
Much of that ‘experience’ being made up bs to jump the queue of hopefuls.
My point is proven - you are totally clueless about what is “actually” involved in the majority of lorry driving jobs these days. Not surprising since you haven’t been able to get one for over 20 years!
I’m sure there are “some” more physical jobs and I’m sure the drivers doing those jobs are happy doing them but the vast majority of us do nothing of the sorts that you continually describe and have brainwashed yourself into believing. Those thoughts are living rent free in your head and it clearly is eating you up inside knowing you failed while the rest of us have managed to get what we wanted from the job.
If there is supposedly so much of the right type of work then the OP obviously won’t need to take the ‘wrong’ type of work because he’s a new driver
As for others getting what they want yes often by rigging their own bs experience rules with made up bs at the expense of others to jump the queue.
As for me almost 15 years of doing decent enough work all brought to an end by being used as a warehouse labourer in a pointless attempt to reduce truck mileage.
But things could have been better if I’d have known when to walk away from a zb job.
So you are using your one isolated incident that supposedly happened to you and tarring every single job with that!
Already said it but will repeat anyway as you are cleariy too stupid to understand, as a new driver that doesn’t mean you will walk straight into the type of work you want - whatever that may be. However there is no mythical pecking order you keep babbling on about, that is just in your head as a justification for why you failed in the job.
You keep banging on about long distance driving and trunking being the holy grail of work, where you sit on your arse for hours on end and do nothing but trailer swaps or bay to bay deliveries. I struggle to understand why you found that difficult to find. I would know exactly where to look i.e parcel companies like DPP, Hermes, Yodel etc. Container work etc.
Instead you just choose to vent your bitterness on here and go on like a broken record without having any experience of what you are talking about.
Carryfast:
stevieboy308:
In your opinion is the best quality of work, it’s not mine
But you’re not the OP.
If someone says that they are entering the industry because they love driving then distance trunking or tramping is the default choice.
No surprise that’s the type of work which is least affected by any ‘driver shortage’ but most affected by the ‘experience’ issue.
As opposed to class 2 local multi drop, or building materials bonus points if it involves a lot of hand ball.
Seems to me that a lot of people protest too much when I tell new drivers don’t be a mug.
Especially being lumbered with 7.5t or class 2 work with a class 1.
I love driving, but the Idea of doing long distance everyday isn’t my idea of fun, I probably average about 25 hours of driving a week, which is a bit more than my last job, but I do get some long drives in to mix it up too - perfect!