New HGV drivers hours

Anyone got a definitive answer on the drivers hours being relaxed?

Is it still 4.5 hours you can drive for or can you go longer without a break now?

Personally I’d stick to what it is.
4.5 45min break.

As to be honest your get round and.jobs done quicker these days with not.much traffic about.
Just stick to what you know. Save stressing about the new temporary rules

ineedmoney:
Anyone got a definitive answer on the drivers hours being relaxed?

Is it still 4.5 hours you can drive for or can you go longer without a break now?

gov.uk/government/publicati … ds-by-road

As of Monday 23rd of March the relaxation applied to anyone carrying goods until 23:59 21st April. The relaxations are:

a) Replacement of the EU daily driving limit of 9 hours with one of 11 hours

b) Reduction of the daily rest requirements from 11 to 9 hours

c) Lifting the weekly (56 hours) and fortnightly driving limits (90 hours) to 60 and 96 hours respectively

d) Postponement of the requirement to start a weekly rest period after six 24 hours periods, for after seven 24 hours period; although 2 regular weekly rest periods or a regular and a reduced weekly rest period will still be required within a fortnight

e) The requirements for daily breaks of 45 minutes after 4.5 hours driving replaced with a break of 45 minutes after 5.5 hours of driving

Drivers must not use relaxation ‘a’ and ‘d’ at the same time. This is to ensure drivers are able to get adequate rest.

So you can either do 5.5hrs before taking a 45 minute break and/or 11hrs driving a day but maintain the normal daily and weekly rest periods so 11hrs off which may be reduced to 9hrs three times a week with standard 45hr weekly rest etc. Or you can do normal 9hrs driving a day, extend to 10hrs twice a week with a break after 4.5hrs but do a 15hr shift every single day with 9hrs off and do that for 7 days in a row before taking weekly break.

Basically it gives two options. It gives more driving time for those doing trunk runs who normally just do trailer swapping so they can do longer runs or do an extra one a day or it gives more working time for those doing collections and deliveries where they’re likely to spend hours waiting to get loaded or tipped.

Conor:

ineedmoney:
Anyone got a definitive answer on the drivers hours being relaxed?

Is it still 4.5 hours you can drive for or can you go longer without a break now?

gov.uk/government/publicati … ds-by-road

As of Monday 23rd of March the relaxation applied to anyone carrying goods until 23:59 21st April. The relaxations are:

a) Replacement of the EU daily driving limit of 9 hours with one of 11 hours

b) Reduction of the daily rest requirements from 11 to 9 hours

c) Lifting the weekly (56 hours) and fortnightly driving limits (90 hours) to 60 and 96 hours respectively

d) Postponement of the requirement to start a weekly rest period after six 24 hours periods, for after seven 24 hours period; although 2 regular weekly rest periods or a regular and a reduced weekly rest period will still be required within a fortnight

e) The requirements for daily breaks of 45 minutes after 4.5 hours driving replaced with a break of 45 minutes after 5.5 hours of driving

Drivers must not use relaxation ‘a’ and ‘d’ at the same time. This is to ensure drivers are able to get adequate rest.

So you can either do 5.5hrs before taking a 45 minute break and/or 11hrs driving a day but maintain the normal daily and weekly rest periods so 11hrs off which may be reduced to 9hrs three times a week with standard 45hr weekly rest etc. Or you can do normal 9hrs driving a day, extend to 10hrs twice a week with a break after 4.5hrs but do a 15hr shift every single day with 9hrs off and do that for 7 days in a row before taking weekly break.

Basically it gives two options. It gives more driving time for those doing trunk runs who normally just do trailer swapping so they can do longer runs or do an extra one a day or it gives more working time for those doing collections and deliveries where they’re likely to spend hours waiting to get loaded or tipped.

Cheers mate.

Sometime told me you can drive for 5.5 hours now but couldn’t find anything official online.

I would say that unless your company specifically ask you to I’d not bother. Just before we shut I mentioned it to the TM and he said there was going to be no need to, at that time they didn’t know they’d be stopping running.

Have they also relaxed working time directive rules (or the equivalent road transport rules) as well?

You still haev to do a printout and specify a reason for ‘taking advantage’ of these (or just cough twice when stopped by DVLA).

When driving under the GB drivers’ hours rules, drivers must note on their record sheet (or tachograph charts or printouts, if applicable) the reasons why they are exceeding the normally permitted limits. This is usual practice in emergencies and is, of course, essential for enforcement purposes.

ETS:
You still haev to do a printout and specify a reason for ‘taking advantage’ of these (or just cough twice when stopped by DVLA).

When driving under the GB drivers’ hours rules, drivers must note on their record sheet (or tachograph charts or printouts, if applicable) the reasons why they are exceeding the normally permitted limits. This is usual practice in emergencies and is, of course, essential for enforcement purposes.

That’s for driving under GB rules, not EU.

Basically you can do as much as you want to get the job done, apply a bit of common sense (don’t drive if your on your arse).

If you feel a breach has occurred, do a print out write some bollox on it.

I don’t believe there will be any court cases with the headline “Driver fined for working to many hours during crisis”.

Perhaps consider these times as an allowable ‘tang mode’ for the foreseeable.

Conor:

ineedmoney:
Anyone got a definitive answer on the drivers hours being relaxed?

Is it still 4.5 hours you can drive for or can you go longer without a break now?

gov.uk/government/publicati … ds-by-road

As of Monday 23rd of March the relaxation applied to anyone carrying goods until 23:59 21st April. The relaxations are:

a) Replacement of the EU daily driving limit of 9 hours with one of 11 hours

b) Reduction of the daily rest requirements from 11 to 9 hours

c) Lifting the weekly (56 hours) and fortnightly driving limits (90 hours) to 60 and 96 hours respectively

d) Postponement of the requirement to start a weekly rest period after six 24 hours periods, for after seven 24 hours period; although 2 regular weekly rest periods or a regular and a reduced weekly rest period will still be required within a fortnight

e) The requirements for daily breaks of 45 minutes after 4.5 hours driving replaced with a break of 45 minutes after 5.5 hours of driving

Drivers must not use relaxation ‘a’ and ‘d’ at the same time. This is to ensure drivers are able to get adequate rest.

So you can either do 5.5hrs before taking a 45 minute break and/or 11hrs driving a day but maintain the normal daily and weekly rest periods so 11hrs off which may be reduced to 9hrs three times a week with standard 45hr weekly rest etc. Or you can do normal 9hrs driving a day, extend to 10hrs twice a week with a break after 4.5hrs but do a 15hr shift every single day with 9hrs off and do that for 7 days in a row before taking weekly break.

Doesn’t either “A” or “D” mean you can either increase the driving hours to 11 once a week or do another 24hr period before starting your weekly rest period?

Conor:

ETS:
You still haev to do a printout and specify a reason for ‘taking advantage’ of these (or just cough twice when stopped by DVLA).

When driving under the GB drivers’ hours rules, drivers must note on their record sheet (or tachograph charts or printouts, if applicable) the reasons why they are exceeding the normally permitted limits. This is usual practice in emergencies and is, of course, essential for enforcement purposes.

That’s for driving under GB rules, not EU.

gov.uk/government/publicati … ds-by-road

When driving under the EU drivers’ hours rules, drivers must note on the back of their tachograph charts or printouts the reasons why they are exceeding the normally permitted limits. This is usual practice in emergencies and is, of course, essential for enforcement purposes.

When driving under the GB drivers’ hours rules, drivers must note on their record sheet (or tachograph charts or printouts, if applicable) the reasons why they are exceeding the normally permitted limits. This is usual practice in emergencies and is, of course, essential for enforcement purposes.

Conor:
That’s for driving under GB rules, not EU.

Same:

When driving under the EU drivers’ hours rules, drivers must note on the back of their tachograph charts or printouts the reasons why they are exceeding the normally permitted limits. This is usual practice in emergencies and is, of course, essential for enforcement purposes.

Was just about to ask the o/p the question.
‘‘Why tf would you want to’’ :unamused:
Then I noticed his username. :laughing:

Says it all really. :unamused: