Reef:
Not a 100% sure on this without checking online but I’m sure I heard/read it somewhere, cant you can get done if your tugged by VOSA/DVSA and your in cab height marker doesn’t match your current trailer?
That wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest,.any excuse to do you.
If true they’re obviously working on the fact that we are all lowest common denominator driver material,.and that we can not be fully aware of our trailer heights without some ■■■■ big sign pointing it out to us in the cab…
I best make sure mine is set properly, I hate giving these ■■■■ s excuses, not that they need them.
Sidevalve:
It doesn’t help either when you get an advance warning sign which suggests that you can pass safely under a bridge, only to find that when you get there, and inevitably with nowhere to turn round, the sign on the bridge indicates that it’s three or even six inches lower than you were expecting.
There’s a couple of these local to me in West Wales, I’m sure there must be others.
yeah i think there should be bigger and more prominent signs at the entry points to these roads with low bridges and more signs for alternative routes , yes i know the prats should see the signs as they approach the bridge and stop , but when they get to the point of no return i presume that because of nowhere to pull in or turn round and traffic behind they think maybe i’ll just squeeze under and hope for the best. Better signage would have stopped them going down that road in fhe first place. Take the A5127 towards lichfield from wall island and the sign informing you of a low bridge ahead that gets struck regularly has been lying on the floor face down on the road for about 3 years
Surely you don’t mean this one at the A5 rdbt (“taken May 2017”)!! google.fr/maps/@52.6513446, … 312!8i6656
and even if you did, there’s somwhere to do a U-turn further along
going on by wrong height in st marys platt there is also a bridge marked up 15ft or 4.4m so which height do you listen to i decided to go around when i phone the local council and asked what the height was they couldnt tell me other then what the sign said and after pointing out it was wrong i got the old nothing to do with us bs
toda152010:
going on by wrong height in st marys platt there is also a bridge marked up 15ft or 4.4m so which height do you listen to i decided to go around when i phone the local council and asked what the height was they couldnt tell me other then what the sign said and after pointing out it was wrong i got the old nothing to do with us bs
The railway bridge on the A25 is marked at 4.5m, not 4.4m…
My bridge height map is knocking on a bit now, but I’ve noticed a few show lower heights now to what are on my map.
I understand the renewed road surface height situation taking an inch or so off, but I think the councils are deliberatelty lowering the true heights a couple of inches in order to discourage drivers trying to wing it by barely ‘scraping’ under with their heads out of the window.
I know that is a different situation to the kamikaze pilots hitting them at 56, but it’s a valid point.
robroy:
My bridge height map is knocking on a bit now, but I’ve noticed a few show lower heights now to what are on my map.
I understand the renewed road surface height situation taking an inch or so off, but I think the councils are deliberatelty lowering the true heights a couple of inches in order to discourage drivers trying to wing it by barely ‘scraping’ under with their heads out of the window.
I know that is a different situation to the kamikaze pilots hitting them at 56, but it’s a valid point.
The bridge heights (in most cases) probably haven’t changed. What has changed is the method used to arrive at the figure shown on the signs, in accordance with the Traffic Signs Manual (which was updated in 2013).
Sidevalve:
It doesn’t help either when you get an advance warning sign which suggests that you can pass safely under a bridge, only to find that when you get there, and inevitably with nowhere to turn round, the sign on the bridge indicates that it’s three or even six inches lower than you were expecting.
There’s a couple of these local to me in West Wales, I’m sure there must be others.
This.
And incorrect conversions doesn’t help. I’ve posted on here before about 16ft bridges also being marked as 4.8m.
Not trying to make excuses for a driver who is WELL over height and hits the bridge so fast that the vehicle tips over, but network rail and the councils don’t always make it as easy as they make out with their ambiguous signage.
Also, should companies have to provide measuring sticks so drivers can be 100% what height they are? It’s all well and good just blaming drivers (in many cases it is only the drivers fault) but if we aren’t given the equipment to be sure of our dimensions then it’s inevitably going to be down to a bit of guess work.
toda152010:
going on by wrong height in st marys platt there is also a bridge marked up 15ft or 4.4m so which height do you listen to i decided to go around when i phone the local council and asked what the height was they couldnt tell me other then what the sign said and after pointing out it was wrong i got the old nothing to do with us bs
The railway bridge on the A25 is marked at 4.5m, not 4.4m…
toda152010:
going on by wrong height in st marys platt there is also a bridge marked up 15ft or 4.4m so which height do you listen to i decided to go around when i phone the local council and asked what the height was they couldnt tell me other then what the sign said and after pointing out it was wrong i got the old nothing to do with us bs
The railway bridge on the A25 is marked at 4.5m, not 4.4m…
Sidevalve:
It doesn’t help either when you get an advance warning sign which suggests that you can pass safely under a bridge, only to find that when you get there, and inevitably with nowhere to turn round, the sign on the bridge indicates that it’s three or even six inches lower than you were expecting.
There’s a couple of these local to me in West Wales, I’m sure there must be others.
This.
And incorrect conversions doesn’t help. I’ve posted on here before about 16ft bridges also being marked as 4.8m.
Not trying to make excuses for a driver who is WELL over height and hits the bridge so fast that the vehicle tips over, but network rail and the councils don’t always make it as easy as they make out with their ambiguous signage.
Also, should companies have to provide measuring sticks so drivers can be 100% what height they are? It’s all well and good just blaming drivers (in many cases it is only the drivers fault) but if we aren’t given the equipment to be sure of our dimensions then it’s inevitably going to be down to a bit of guess work.
There’s no guesswork involved when you’ve got a tape measure in your bag…
I don’t get it. The height has to be displayed in the cab and driver should check.
If using a truck sat nav or map you can route to avoid low bridges.
If you still happen upon one it’s usually signed on approach and the bridge will be signed. So you stop and turn around. Appreciate that’s not always easy but better than hitting the bridge surely?
IronEddie:
I don’t get it. The height has to be displayed in the cab and driver should check.
If using a truck sat nav or map you can route to avoid low bridges.
If you still happen upon one it’s usually signed on approach and the bridge will be signed. So you stop and turn around. Appreciate that’s not always easy but better than hitting the bridge surely?
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Not always easy, it’s not always possible sometimes without having to call the police to close the road to let you back up. I’m not saying that’s an excuse to just go for it and hope you’ll get under, but just saying
IronEddie:
I don’t get it. The height has to be displayed in the cab and driver should check.
If using a truck sat nav or map you can route to avoid low bridges.
If you still happen upon one it’s usually signed on approach and the bridge will be signed. So you stop and turn around. Appreciate that’s not always easy but better than hitting the bridge surely?
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Not always easy, it’s not always possible sometimes without having to call the police to close the road to let you back up. I’m not saying that’s an excuse to just go for it and hope you’ll get under, but just saying
Rowley, you are really missing the point here , along with a lot of other posters I must add!
You shouldn’t be at “the point of”…
Not being able to turn around,
Looking for a place to turn around,
Having to reverse for however many yards/metres/miles/kms to find that point
Having to call the police to hold up the traffic while you turn around because you’re stuck
It’s moronic to actually get into that situation in the first place!!
IronEddie:
I don’t get it. The height has to be displayed in the cab and driver should check.
If using a truck sat nav or map you can route to avoid low bridges.
If you still happen upon one it’s usually signed on approach and the bridge will be signed. So you stop and turn around. Appreciate that’s not always easy but better than hitting the bridge surely?
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Not always easy, it’s not always possible sometimes without having to call the police to close the road to let you back up. I’m not saying that’s an excuse to just go for it and hope you’ll get under, but just saying
Rowley, you are really missing the point here , along with a lot of other posters I must add!
You shouldn’t be at “the point of”…
Not being able to turn around,
Looking for a place to turn around,
Having to reverse for however many yards/metres/miles/kms to find that point
Having to call the police to hold up the traffic while you turn around because you’re stuck
It’s moronic to actually get into that situation in the first place!!
No, you shouldn’t; but there are circumstances in which this might be inevitable. If as mentioned in my comment above, you reasonably assume from the advance warning two or three miles from the bridge that yoiu will pass under it safely, then find out when you get there that you cannot because the bridge itself is signed lower, what do you do then? Attempt to pass under it hoping that it’s the sign on the bridge that’s wrong?
IronEddie:
I don’t get it. The height has to be displayed in the cab and driver should check.
If using a truck sat nav or map you can route to avoid low bridges.
If you still happen upon one it’s usually signed on approach and the bridge will be signed. So you stop and turn around. Appreciate that’s not always easy but better than hitting the bridge surely?
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Not always easy, it’s not always possible sometimes without having to call the police to close the road to let you back up. I’m not saying that’s an excuse to just go for it and hope you’ll get under, but just saying
Rowley, you are really missing the point here , along with a lot of other posters I must add!
You shouldn’t be at “the point of”…
Not being able to turn around,
Looking for a place to turn around,
Having to reverse for however many yards/metres/miles/kms to find that point
Having to call the police to hold up the traffic while you turn around because you’re stuck
It’s moronic to actually get into that situation in the first place!!
No, you shouldn’t; but there are circumstances in which this might be inevitable. If as mentioned in my comment above, you reasonably assume from the advance warning two or three miles from the bridge that yoiu will pass under it safely, then find out when you get there that you cannot because the bridge itself is signed lower, what do you do then? Attempt to pass under it hoping that it’s the sign on the bridge that’s wrong?
Sidevalve, you are telling me that driving down whatever route you are on there will be a bridge height sign ■■’■■/ xmxx and you are under this limit so continue and when you get there the bridge will be lower than the sign you have just passed and you can’t get under it ? Not you personally but a driver, I would love to see evidence of this!
pierrot 14:
Sidevalve, you are telling me that driving down whatever route you are on there will be a bridge height sign ■■’■■/ xmxx and you are under this limit so continue and when you get there the bridge will be lower than the sign you have just passed and you can’t get under it ? Not you personally but a driver, I would love to see evidence of this!
Yes. Here’s one local to me;
As you can clearly see, it’s signed 12’3". However, if you turn off the A484 north of Cynwyl Elfed towards Esgair, there’s a recently installed sign which says 12’6". I’ve just tried to find the sign on Google Earth but it’s an old pic which doesn’t show the sign itself, but oddly enough it does show the roadworks where they must’ve put it in the following day.
There’s another in Llanwrtyd Wells, just off the A483; the bridge is signed 12’6" but the advance warning sign on the road from Cefngorwydd clearly states 12’9". My lorry being 12’6" (I measured it!) I can get under that one, but it twangs the radio aerial so there ain’t a lot of room to spare!
That’s two within 20 miles of each other, so I’m sure they’re not the only ones. Furthermore, they’re in two different counties so it’s not just one Highways department that’s cocked up.
Sidevalve:
It doesn’t help either when you get an advance warning sign which suggests that you can pass safely under a bridge, only to find that when you get there, and inevitably with nowhere to turn round, the sign on the bridge indicates that it’s three or even six inches lower than you were expecting.
There’s a couple of these local to me in West Wales, I’m sure there must be others.
yeah i think there should be bigger and more prominent signs at the entry points to these roads with low bridges and more signs for alternative routes , yes i know the prats should see the signs as they approach the bridge and stop , but when they get to the point of no return i presume that because of nowhere to pull in or turn round and traffic behind they think maybe i’ll just squeeze under and hope for the best. Better signage would have stopped them going down that road in fhe first place. Take the A5127 towards lichfield from wall island and the sign informing you of a low bridge ahead that gets struck regularly has been lying on the floor face down on the road for about 3 years
Surely you don’t mean this one at the A5 rdbt (“taken May 2017”)!! google.fr/maps/@52.6513446, … 312!8i6656
and even if you did, there’s somwhere to do a U-turn further along
yes and that sign got damaged and isn’t there any more (although it was briefly in may ) , so you don’t know your coming to the low bridge until you get there and you can’t turn round then with traffic behind you
