Currently fulltime with a firm and been offered an interview with another company different type of work amd much better rate of pay. Question is do I tell my conpany or just phone in sick?I need the day off really bit its too close to give enough notice!
ValleysTrucker:
Currently fulltime with a firm and been offered an interview with another company different type of work amd much better rate of pay. Question is do I tell my conpany or just phone in sick?I need the day off really bit its too close to give enough notice!
Bollox to present firm unless good, phone in sick!
Been alright so far apart from a few moments that ■■■■■■ me off. What ive learned so far is there is no loyalty in this industry and I dont mean the drivers!
Sickie is a no no to my mind, as the potential gaffer has asked you about being able to attend at short notice, you either lie (which isn’t the best way to start a job as it might get found out…equals cheerio cos you can’t be trusted as it were), or you show him/her that you are quite prepared to drop your employer in the mire (maybe them when it suits), either way you’re losing credit.
Either tell the current boss the truth about needing half a day off and attend (only you know if you think you have the new job sewn up already), or negotiate a mutually agreeable time for this interview instead, if the new boss is worth working for he will understand and you will have earned big respect.
If he expects you to drop your old employer in the mire for his convenience, then IMHO he won’t care a bollock about dropping you or anyone else when it suits him.
The industry may have it’s share of disloyal people on both sides, but that doesn’t mean we have to lower ourselves to aping the standards of our leaders and politicians…whose word means the square root of bugger all.
Juddian:
Sickie is a no no to my mind, as the potential gaffer has asked you about being able to attend at short notice, you either lie (which isn’t the best way to start a job as it might get found out…equals cheerio cos you can’t be trusted as it were), or you show him/her that you are quite prepared to drop your employer in the mire (maybe them when it suits), either way you’re losing credit.Either tell the current boss the truth about needing half a day off and attend (only you know if you think you have the new job sewn up already), or negotiate a mutually agreeable time for this interview instead, if the new boss is worth working for he will understand and you will have earned big respect.
If he expects you to drop your old employer in the mire for his convenience, then IMHO he won’t care a bollock about dropping you or anyone else when it suits him.
The industry may have it’s share of disloyal people on both sides, but that doesn’t mean we have to lower ourselves to aping the standards of our leaders and politicians…whose word means the square root of bugger all.
This is by far the sanest and most sensible reply. Who knows, your present employer may make you an offer you cant refuse in an effort to keep you?
An employer cannot legally stop you looking for a new job. They also cannot legally stop you from going to an interview. So it’s best to be honest juts say you have an interview but it’s just to see what’s what it doesn’t mean your leaving you just want to know more about the job.
I find it crazy people worry so much about asking an employer for time off for a job interview.
Whenever I have approached a boss for time off they either say yes well cover it or that day is no good but rearrange for next week etc. Both parties never have had a problem when done this way in my experience.
If you really don’t want to ask then ask for the day off for personal reasons, you don’t have to give a reason just that it’s a personal matter that needs to be taken care of.
But any time taken for a reason such as that should be taken out of annual leave or unpaid time off.
If you think he’ll be awkward say you’ve got a medical appointment and need half a day for it.
Otherwise just be honest and find a mutually convenient interview date
Honesty is always the best policy.
As suggested, your potential new employer could take your willingness to ■■■■■ on your current boss as a minus… or he couldnt care less. Either way, he’s a ■■■■.
Talk it over with your boss without lying about the situation, obviously your looking for something better. He will either recognise this, which could lead to promotion within your firm or he will shake your hand and cut you loose.
As an employer myself, I have more respect for people that tell it like it is than ever someone that spins a line which ever side of the fence they want to sit on.
Honesty talks, bullsiht walks…
Simple answer is ask the new guy for an interview as late as possible,then ask your Boss for an early start so you can finish by such n such a time as you have some business to sort out.That way your not shirking your days work or telling porkies.
Whatever you decide to do I’d suggest finding out whether you will be required to use your digicard on the day…
TiredAndEmotional:
Whatever you decide to do I’d suggest finding out whether you will be required to use your digicard on the day…
Another reason for being honest with your current boss…
What if you lie and pull a sickie then said interview turns into assessment drive? You’ll need to use your card and when downloaded by your current employer will show you were driving elsewhere when supposedly sick.
No big deal if you decided to take new job but if you don’t then you’ll have some explaining to do and loss any trust that is there.
ValleysTrucker:
Been alright so far apart from a few moments that ■■■■■■ me off. What ive learned so far is there is no loyalty in this industry and I dont mean the drivers!
Thanks for the honest replys some very good points. Yes I have an assessment drive they told me that on phone I didnt think about that with downloading my card at end of week! Literally dont think they will change interview time I had a choice of 2 and i picked latest possible to try sort something. If I go in Tuesday morning think il just tell the manager whats what, only problem being is theres quite a few drivers off next week on each day.
Good luck. It’s a hard choice to make
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Cheers.Id rather be truthfull about it all, I think when i tell my current boss the difference I think he will understand my choice to jump at this chance! I have his number but dont want to bother him on a bank holiday weekend.
Tell your manager you have been offered more money ,He will understand .it might change things where you already work ,Ie a better offer .they may value you more than you think .Don’t lie its a small world …
If you’re still working for who I think you are, then let me tell you a story about them there…
When I worked for them I found another (too good to be true) job and handed in my notice, at that point in time I was on shunting duties (at a customers yard) covering for the regular driver who was on holiday that week…
The Boss took time out of his schedule and drove down to where I was working (around 20 miles from our own yard) and sat and chatted with me about what the future held and he genuinely cared that I was sure of my decision and though he was sad to see me go he wished me the best of luck and that I’d always have a job to go back too if needed…
I was genuinely blown away by this as it’s something I never expected and certainly never experienced before…
Well the new job turned out to be a crock of [zb] (unsurprisingly) and the new Boss was a complete ■■■■ so I parted company (abruptly I might add) after about 3 weeks and started looking for other work, I knew I could go back to (you know who) but to be honest I was a little bit ashamed and embarrassed to ask so I went looking for other work and turned my eye to night work as there were a few jobs offering shift patterns, so I applied for a few and gave references (not from the last idiot though) and waited on replies.
Then a day or two later I got a phone call, not from any of the jobs I’d just applied for but from (You know who) It was ‘G’ one of the planners, he said “we just had a request for a reference, is it true you’re looking for night work now?” To which I replied “yeah I wanted to give tramping a miss for a while that’s why I never rang you guys…” He said "right, see you Monday at 5PM for work then, we’ve got a spot open for a night loader/shunter/run out driver, and he then hung up…
That’s only part of my story there, I left again many months later for another job (which really did turn out better this time, honest!) but again I left on good terms and know over a decade later I could probably go back there or just rely on a good reference from them.
i think that qualifies as loyalty to drivers.
i want to add that I was nothing special there I wasn’t a golden boy or a driving god, I just kept my head down for the most part, and got on with the job.
I can’t say much about what they are like to work for now as it’s well over a decade later but I do know it’s mostly the same faces still, I know it’s not all roses and butterflies working there and the money is probably still not the greatest either (this area ■■■■■ in general), but if anyone was to ask me which company around here treated there drivers the best they’d be a solid second on my list (the firm I left for the second time would come first, sorry guys )
Also one final word of warning, the companies all know each other (at least as far as the bigger known firms in this area go) and they regularly communicate and pass jobs about and discuss drivers leaving one place to go to another (I’ve overheard conversations in the office where they’ve said “oh so “Fred” has gone to work for … now then, he didn’t last long at … after leaving here…” So just bare that in mind also.
if you’re not still working for who I think you are then disregard everything I’ve just said and ‘[zb] you’ for making me type all that unnecessarily
But whatever you choose to do, best of luck with it
Reef:
If you’re still working for who I think you are, then let me tell you a story about them there…When I worked for them I found another (too good to be true) job and handed in my notice, at that point in time I was on shunting duties (at a customers yard) covering for the regular driver who was on holiday that week…
The Boss took time out of his schedule and drove down to where I was working (around 20 miles from our own yard) and sat and chatted with me about what the future held and he genuinely cared that I was sure of my decision and though he was sad to see me go he wished me the best of luck and that I’d always have a job to go back too if needed…
I was genuinely blown away by this as it’s something I never expected and certainly never experienced before…
Well the new job turned out to be a crock of [zb] (unsurprisingly) and the new Boss was a complete ■■■■ so I parted company (abruptly I might add) after about 3 weeks and started looking for other work, I knew I could go back to (you know who) but to be honest I was a little bit ashamed and embarrassed to ask so I went looking for other work and turned my eye to night work as there were a few jobs offering shift patterns, so I applied for a few and gave references (not from the last idiot though) and waited on replies.
Then a day or two later I got a phone call, not from any of the jobs I’d just applied for but from (You know who) It was ‘G’ one of the planners, he said “we just had a request for a reference, is it true you’re looking for night work now?” To which I replied “yeah I wanted to give tramping a miss for a while that’s why I never rang you guys…” He said "right, see you Monday at 5PM for work then, we’ve got a spot open for a night loader/shunter/run out driver, and he then hung up…
That’s only part of my story there, I left again many months later for another job (which really did turn out better this time, honest!) but again I left on good terms and know over a decade later I could probably go back there or just rely on a good reference from them.
i think that qualifies as loyalty to drivers.
i want to add that I was nothing special there I wasn’t a golden boy or a driving god, I just kept my head down for the most part, and got on with the job.
I can’t say much about what they are like to work for now as it’s well over a decade later but I do know it’s mostly the same faces still, I know it’s not all roses and butterflies working there and the money is probably still not the greatest either (this area ■■■■■ in general), but if anyone was to ask me which company around here treated there drivers the best they’d be a solid second on my list (the firm I left for the second time would come first, sorry guys )
Also one final word of warning, the companies all know each other (at least as far as the bigger known firms in this area go) and they regularly communicate and pass jobs about and discuss drivers leaving one place to go to another (I’ve overheard conversations in the office where they’ve said “oh so “Fred” has gone to work for … now then, he didn’t last long at … after leaving here…” So just bare that in mind also.
if you’re not still working for who I think you are then disregard everything I’ve just said and ‘[zb] you’ for making me type all that unnecessarily
But whatever you choose to do, best of luck with it
good post too!
Reef:
Also one final word of warning, the companies all know each other (at least as far as the bigger known firms in this area go) and they regularly communicate and pass jobs about and discuss drivers leaving one place to go to another
Definitely true, my current boss knows all the other boss’s locally due to doing jobs for each other occasionally.
Also went for a job once where the TM’s sister was married to the TM at a place I had left on good terms 1yr previous so when I got to the interview it seems I had such a glowing reference from the previous guy it wasn’t much of an interview he just wanted to know when I could start.