n00b here!

stagedriver · 17 January 2012 16:26

Thinking the same thing. Easyashgv are a broker, they don’t arrange training like the OP has stated. They dissapear with your money and EVENTUALLY book you with the cheapest crappiest trainer around after hassling them.

If the OP is genuine I’d suggest you get your money back and go DIRECT to a training school that you have physically seen and know they have their own vehicles.

You state you’ve been dealing with the RHA? They are useless. They will not recommend a training school, let alone anything further than the information that is on their website.

But either way, if your genuine you’ve just been screwed out of £2500.

Easyashgv have history, especially on here. My mate booked a course with them and I nearly hit him against a wall I was so angry.

He never sat his test and he never got his money back.

sprouty · 17 January 2012 16:36

Yes I am genuine thats why I’m asking for advice. If you have nothing constructive to say then gtfo and stop flaming my thread you idiot!

The person I went to see there is also my trainer I dont see what your problem is its not your money is it?

coffeeholic · 17 January 2012 16:50

sprouty:
Yes I am genuine thats why I’m asking for advice.

Asking, yes. Listening, no.

The answer to your request for advice from many different people is don’t go with a broker, even more so considering the bad advice and information they have given you so far. However that’s not what you wanted to hear when you started this ad, sorry I mean thread, so instead of doing the sensible thing admitting you’ve cocked up and getting your money back, you attack people who are trying to help you. There is little or no point anyone trying to offer you advice as all you seem to want to hear is, “You’ve done the right thing because EasyasHGV and the RHA are both wonderful organisations.” That’s all you want to hear so badly you have gone as far as reporting posts pointing out to you exactly what EasyasHGV are in a thread in which you have said you have booked with them, as being off topic. Not being what you want to hear and not being on topic are two different things.

Crack on but do us all a favour and don’t come back ■■■■■■■■ when all the things you have been promised don’t happen.

Here’s some nice advertising that may meet the response you were fishing for, couple of excellent posts about peoples experiences with EasyasHGV in THIS THREAD. Or it may not.

simonb · 17 January 2012 17:15

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sprouty · 17 January 2012 17:44

Thanks for the advice there. Either way I am booked up and paid now so I’m going to go with it and see what happens.
If this was an ad I would make it look alot better than this crazy fool!

stagedriver · 17 January 2012 18:38

Or just ask for your money back before it’s too late?

Doesn’t all the stories put you off? My best mate lost a lot of money with these cowboys. A lot of money.

So I would suggest you get onto them pronto and if they refuse get onto your bank to get the money back.

coffeeholic · 17 January 2012 18:39

stagedriver:
Or just ask for your money back before it’s too late?

Might get this road sign on his theory.

stagedriver · 17 January 2012 18:49

Coffee, never a dull moment with you

coffeeholic · 17 January 2012 18:52

stagedriver:
Coffee, never a dull moment with you

That’s unemployment for you. Idle hands and all that.

sprouty · 17 January 2012 19:12

stagedriver:
Doesn’t all the stories put you off? My best mate lost a lot of money with these cowboys. A lot of money.

Ok how did he loose his money and never get a test?

stagedriver · 17 January 2012 19:58

sprouty:

stagedriver:
Doesn’t all the stories put you off? My best mate lost a lot of money with these cowboys. A lot of money.

Ok how did he loose his money and never get a test?

Pretty simple really - He paid them, and like all brokers become difficult to get in touch with and stall and stall with no test ever happening.

Brokers are all the same, so if you are genuine - I’d have thought you’d be making it rather obvious that your now worried and your mrs will kill you and so on and that youll be on talking to the bank first thing in the morning…

No?

mike-c · 17 January 2012 20:07

sprouty:
and 2 days in Peterborough after passing which covers all areas of driver legisltion, tacos and saftey ect.

Peterborough, from Hampshire?!!!

lja · 17 January 2012 22:46

Hmmm…no comment on the negativity here!

But, I would like to point out…it doesn’t matter how much money somebody pays for a product or service as long as the person paying believes it to be a fair deal. There are some people out there who are quite happy paying £3 to £4 for a tea bag in a mug of water, but you wouldn’t find me paying that!!

Anyway sprouty, welcome onto the forum and may I wish you all the very best with your new chosen career.

Like many have stated, it is not going to be a very easy ride, but I’m sure you are old enough to know that anyway. I don’t think there are any guaranteed jobs out there atm but things will improve one day and it’s better to have all the licences ready for when it does. Anyway, a lot of the time, I find jobs actually come your way by being at the right place at the right time.

All the best mate.

lgvtrainer · 18 January 2012 23:41

taffytrucker:
what i have found is that the smaller the company the better you are looked after and more help given on how things are done

I would not generalise and say that is true but it very often is. Each training vehicle needs 2 new students each week to keep it going. That is forgetting retest requirments.

LARGE v small traing company

LARGE - Better organised admin, better equipped to cope with the unforessen like vehicle breakdowns etc. More passes per year so more recommendations. Less likely to go bust before you train after paying up front.

small - Better personal service, you are less of a booking reference number and more likely to speak to the right person when you call. My advice when booking with a small company is to only pay the balance just before training begins.

Overall the experience may be safer with a large trainer. I have been both very large and now very small, 1 vehicle.

At the end of the day what you really need is to pass the test. As always have at leat 2-3 assessment drives and decide yourself.

lgvtrainer · 18 January 2012 23:54

SimonB:
This is an advert for easyashgv. Can’t you tell?

SimonB:
It’s an ad.

Personally, and because I see the best in everyone lets give sprouty the benefit.

If you need help sprouty you are at the right place.

Good luck and please pass the test

paul_pstt · 19 January 2012 06:32

LARGE v small traing company

LARGE - Better organised admin, better equipped to cope with the unforessen like vehicle breakdowns etc. More passes per year so more recommendations. Less likely to go bust before you train after paying up front.

small - Better personal service, you are less of a booking reference number and more likely to speak to the right person when you call.

Agreed. Like to think I’m in the middle. There’s an old saying “small enough to care - big enough to cope” and I go along with that. Hasten to add we don’t do reference numbers and there’s normally only two different people on the phones. So not hard to “speak to the right person when you call”.

All the best sprouty.

Pete

truckulent · 24 January 2012 09:00

Peter Smythe:

the whole CPC — it stinks as it is…

… which is the reason our tutor on a course with 20 very experience band bus drivers for the entire week was given a card signed by them all, a bottle of very good wine and a round of applause.

So clearly it’s all a load of rubbish.

Think not, don’t tar us all with the same brush. Driver cpc, properly constructed and delivered according to the current experience and knowledge of the attendees, is extremely worthwhile.

Anyway, back to the thread - I can’t believe that anyone would pay out all that money to a broker before they’ve got their provisional . Heaven only knows what any refund would look like if the licence is refused.

Hope that’s not the case and I wish you all the best with it. Pete

Agreed.

Pete - I don’t dispute that, and my criticism wasn’t aimed at the trainers. It’s the course that stinks. It’s unclear, disorganised and frankly, a shambles. You can legally do the same 7 hour module 5 times over I believe and pass■■? It isn’t the delivery of the course I question. It’s the application of it and the relevancy in individual cases I doubt. It’s very easy to do it without any thought for the benefit to any particular driver.

One glance at this forum shows you that there are a lot of drivers (experienced at that), that know sod all about the hours rules/tacho rules etc. In fact, there are no drivers on this forum that know everything about driving lorries. There are questions on here on a regular basis. And then lots of posts all disagreeing what the answer should be! It’s clear that something is needed as drivers in general don’t know as much as they think they do…

It will be interesting to see how many do quit the job in 2014…my guess is a lot less than currently say they will.

paul_pstt · 24 January 2012 16:46

Pete - I don’t dispute that, and my criticism wasn’t aimed at the trainers. It’s the course that stinks. It’s unclear, disorganised and frankly, a shambles. You can legally do the same 7 hour module 5 times over I believe and pass■■? It isn’t the delivery of the course I question. It’s the application of it and the relevancy in individual cases I doubt. It’s very easy to do it without any thought for the benefit to any particular driver.

One glance at this forum shows you that there are a lot of drivers (experienced at that), that know sod all about the hours rules/tacho rules etc. In fact, there are no drivers on this forum that know everything about driving lorries. There are questions on here on a regular basis. And then lots of posts all disagreeing what the answer should be! It’s clear that something is needed as drivers in general don’t know as much as they think they do…

It will be interesting to see how many do quit the job in 2014…my guess is a lot less than currently say they will

Don’t understand what is disorganised and a shambles. Yes, you can repeat any module - in fact I encorouge drivers to cover drivers’ hours maybe every 3 years. This should keep the driver updated and up to speed with the subject.

I agree with the relevancy comment. Courses tend to be generic and are geared to suit most people most of the time. I don’t like that and prefer it when a company asks us to deliver courses to their drivers that are best suited to their needs. Often, for instance, a company that has had VOSA probs will want daily checks, defect reporting etc emphasised and there is enough flexibility in the system to allow for this. The beauty of it is that eg defect reporting is explained as per the company’s system (which we will have investigated first of course).

I have now delivered dozens and dozens of cpc courses and the common threads are:

“Don’t want to be here - waste of time - money making scam - bin doing the job 30 years, what are you going to tell me” and so on and so on.

And at the end of the course a number of drivers will come, privately, and thank me for the enjoyable experience and mention how much they’ve learnt about a job that they thought they knew! Naturally, this will rarely happen in earshot of their peers!

Overall, good trainers are getting it together. It’s not perfect but I look on it as a work in progress.

Pete