My drivinghistory,cont.from page 6 1965 2008

Work seemed to be very busy, I did get a lot of the evening or whole nights work, but I never minded as it got me learning more about markets and the way they worked, sometimes I have
been in Covent garden unloading and I would see another Rokold trailer ,unloading,naturally I would go over to see who it was and it was never any one I knew it would be another owner driver
so I would try to get chatting -as you do ,well I did,and the response would be the same from the other driver, ohh are you one of the Northampton temps!i used to say yes, yes !I am the new boy just started driving , just finding my feet,and then move on , away from him. And leave it at that,and go about my other deliverers.

So all was still going great one afternoon I was asked to be in for 5 pm and bring your gear with you ,washing gear, change of clothes sleeping bag passport, that was all he said .another supermarket run as normal and I thought a collection some where in the morning ,once I parked my car Alan came round the obligatory hand shake , and his big smile,he was always smiling,i nicknamed him [Cheshire ] to my self , and said to me when you get back tonight there will be a owner driver here about 11 pm you are to go with him on a trip to Holland, he will not go without you , you have a short run tonight! and will be back easy as far as time, and so I was .I was buzzing. Brilliant ,so I thought this is the start, and it was,the driver PETE he seemed fine he explained it all where we were going ,it sounded unbelievable [at the time it was for me], first we did the tachographs ,and I said what about the 5 hours I have done on this disk, he said ohh just put it away, no one will give a ■■■■ about a quick trip you have just done,you have not been stopped have you ,no! I replied ,he said it will be fine forget it , and I did. First time I had done anything illegal with the tachograph , I was learning…

After a few delivers at the markets we were empty,and started to make our way down to Dover for shipping out on the Townsend Thorsen Zeebrugge ferry.
It must have been around 3am when he pulled into a lay by and he said its time for a kip[sleep] the cab had two bunks, as with normal in most lorry s that did European trips .It seem after 5 minutes and Pete was up and he had the small gas cylinder stove with a kettle boiling on small wooden shaped shelf that fitted on the dash board, I was completely amazed ,undeliverable ,and he said I only have coffee, that is fine I said bursting for the toilet, looks like a Lennie, but not on the wheels.

And next,still amazed he had a small type of mesh with a wooden handle and was toasting some bread .That was the clincher for me, if you can do your self tea ,coffee and toast ,what more do you want .I much later on found a device for toasting bread on the small gas stove, you can by them today 2014called a DEFUSER. Look it up.[goggle].

After having the snack/breakfast educated me by telling me that is how you live once abroad you look after your self as much as you like,and you use all facilities provided by factory’s boarders, wherever you can ,he said hygiene is somewhat not our standard but always remember ,that it is you that is the foreign visitor in another country .and if you respect that you will never go far wrong, I did learn that in a early working life he had no idea how ,anyway
Good advice, I did not elaborate on where I had actual travelled to it might have just taken the wind out of his sails,but he was all right with me .

I did ask about the Tachograph card and he said we are starting fresh from now where we are and he took the two tachograph discs out of the tachograph head and tore them up .he said if you do not get a police check through the night, then no one else is checking lorry s [or so every one thought]
who knows what you are doing. god knows where he booked off on his previous card. Well I did not worry , I was only a passenger -ish. so he said he would just use his tachograph card and use mine later if needed when back in Dover ,or ,wherever so that meant we now had 15 hours to do collection and get back to a port for the ferry back to England.

On arrival at Dover I am all eyes . I was going to start writing all that was done [procedure] when with a empty trailer you are shipping out.

SHIPPING OUT ====
First peace of paper or booklet you needed was a TRAILER GARNET. That is the trailers own passport. it is a customs required document for all Country’s in Europe. It means that temporary excise duty has been paid. And the chassis number is used as well as whatever number the company uses for their own purpose and it cannot be changed, also on the trailers front are two photographs of the trailer in sealed plastic holders also legal requirement however [never needed in England by our U.K .trailers however all foreign lorry s within the U.K.] needed them ,but I must point out at that time in the 1980s early 1990s that EUROPEAN lorry s driving over in the U. K. was very limited as Self drive i.e. foreign drivers actually driving. Quite a lot of European trailers were shipped over on ferry s to be hauled by UK drivers…
also the customs never bothered about the trailer garnet on foreign trailers .NEXT the ticket office passports were looked at by to them.
Two drivers one lorry,oh.!! you will have to pay for the extra bunk bed and food,first obstacle. Apparently when the ticket was booked,
two drivers were not mentioned.[i could be a hitch hiker]

So then they rang after the office , to get conformation. It was all-right in the end however I did produce my HGV .but they still wanted conformation… And that practice was in still force all the years I crossed the channel from whatever port and country , a named passenger ,for a second drivers ticket… to stop people even then bringing any one to the UK,because if there was any problems , with the police ,immigration abroad, and trying to get in here the fall back was the Ferry company they were held responsible…
So then round to the customs, having no goods to clear a “transit empty “form has to be filled in and stamped,as Belgium is in Benelux there are different boarder controls needed ,not a lot. so it is easy to enter and transit. Then off down to queue up for boarding ,there were two types of ferries for Zeebrugge one freight only ,slower and limited cabins .and the other normal but smaller than now roll on ,roll off that was a faster crossing ,as drivers ,we also had a bunk,and drivers only eating lounge.[privilege].as all you ex m/e .commie block men would know very well…

Loading of the lorry s was a job done by shore staff on the dock and once inside by the ships crew
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,[[just a diverse peace of information, what I did not know at the time when I was using… TOWNSEND THORESON ,AND LATER P and O ferries to ZEEBRUGGE one of my old ship mates was working on the same ships as a bosun, quartermaster .and we never bumped into one another .we were definitely on the same ferry at the same time as when the HERALD OF FREE ENTERPRISE SANK IN THE ZEEBRUGGE HARBOUR on march the 9th 1987 WE HAD BOTH CAME OVER THE DAY BEFORE IN ANOTHER FERRY. And we did not meet up un till 2005 .He was a lucky man as crews used to rotate to the two different ships .i did not know of anyone personally who died.he sadly knew all the crew…

So the ships crew parked you up then proceeded to put chains on the lorry from the deck to stop any movement. Then out we got, went up the stairs to the drivers compartments, and I can tell you I am, ecstatic I never ever thought I would set foot on a ship again ever. just being there brought a lot of memories back[good ones] but I did not let on to PETE he would not a given a rats arse anyway. It did not take long to suss him out , a Ladies man…when round the table eating he never stopped flowing from him .where he had been what he did. chatting to the stewardesses . Then we went to our cabins and had a sleep for 3 hours how bad was that, and getting paid for it ,well,that was the way you had to look at it .I could not believe that for years some drivers had had jobs like I was now privy to,not all that ■■■■ we used to do, and a lot of them were young men. Well good luck to them but I was envious of them that is all they new ,i expect it was the luck of the draw where you lived and the company you worked for.
After the sleep,up for tea and sandwich,all free. And then duty free ,what a bonus. But did say to me
be careful how many cigarettes you buy as you are only allowed 200 hundred that is the U K. limit
also you can buy them on the passage home, also all the men buying large quantities of cigarettes
are going home or on long trips ,not back to the UK like we will be so point taken and I waited for the return ferry. after a call over the ships T ANNOY “all drivers proceed to the lorry s”off we went.

Once down in the lorry deck there seemed a lot of lorry s to the amount of drivers who went up into the passenger area so I mentioned it to Pete ,ho arr , he said a lot of the men .do not leave their cabs they get in there own bunk and get to sleep quicker, also if there is a snorer in the same cabin you might just as well give up. Also you get longer in bed.

It did after time turn out to be a practice that all shipping company s on all routes rule out as a non practice to be used after the 1987 disaster at Zeebrugge ,in fact all drivers had to report with ticket to the stewards office well for a start .as the loss of drivers life s trapped in the cabs was very high .however `that was to come later.

So we start winding our way out of the ships bowl’s and into the ■■■■■■■ rain in a very orderly queue. For the first bend in the road , all lorry s off from different countries I had never seen so many ,what I noticed straight away all the nice hello s,nodding,Pete telling me who was from where etc all smiles ,fu-k me as soon as we got of the ship it was one for all no quarter given horns blowing, Jesus they were like Jekyll and hide. When we eventually got parked up outside the customs and immigration office ,[all in one] it was like a football crowd coming out of a match. no order at all ,so I just stuck with Pete and no one was saying anything to each other,it was strange however I was learning that was what I was there for.

Ye, I got my passport stamped. My first foreign stamp. They do not bother now ,well they did not years ago, for drivers.i asked for mine to be .
First stop Pete said was diesel .it was the second cheapest in the Euro union , Luxembourg was the cheapest and it still is to this very day,how .f-ck knows ,but it is.

He would not let me drive until I had got my eye in so to say, he told me.
After 10 minutes we were at the first garage, it was packed with nearly all the lorries off the ferry ,so we queued again ,I can see now why the big rush to get first was to get to the diesel stop first.i did not have any idea that years after I would know that place very well indeed.

After years, I had got it all sussed out , driving down to Dover the more lorry s you overtook they would be behind you whatever queue in the dock you took I would more or less know if they were going for the Zeebrugge or Calais ,as the same companies usually kept to there regular trips to the same countries… you knew you would always be in front of them ,and be at the diesel tank stop n at ZEEBRUGGE before them, how? Because you would be in front of them in the queue at Dover and get on the ferry earlier than them, and we were mostly empty going in to Zeebrugge so quick customs at Dover, and better position on the ferry for getting off to the diesel and the horrible coffee. always luke -warm but drivers used to love it, afraid I never did. .

It was the practice of all the different nationality’s while filling up was to have no sense of hurry at all ,they were like mad men to get to the diesel then once there they would put the fill up hose in the tank and f-ck off,[automatic fuel cut off]into the garage shop that had chairs, table, and free coffee and not a care in the world .i expect it was something I would have to get used to.but as fridge men we never had time to toss it off,we always had a strict timeline…

We were at lest 1hour there …mind you Pete was as bad as the others once at the diesel tank,he was then speaking in pidgin English , lots of back slapping, and the now classic hand shaking ,it was like a epidemic, they were all shaking hands, if they knew one person, and you were near, you all got a handshake .that was to me , well different, being English how many times in your life do you shake hands,very little …it was a new form of greeting I would become very at ease with after time.
All I could hear was lots of WE!E, SAV!A,MESSU!E ] then unintelligible rubbish .it was if I had been transported to another world, however after time I found that the Belgians, and the French used a lot of the same words in their greetings language,also handshakes .

Also the new smells of strange cigarettes , lots of different snacks in the shop ,nothing English ,for a while yes ,i was like a kid in a sweet shop.The total garage at Zeebruge had a resturant out of the rear it took me years to know as I never had time to mess about ,diesel in ,then me out… You were able to buy all different kinds of goods for a lorry,not seen in the U k mostly for owner drives. one thing did catch my eye was like the small well made wooden very neat table top ,that would fit around the inside of the windscreen like a small writing desk with little small draws ,for all the pens , on the passenger side of the cab i thought how good a idea. they were labelled up for all the European makes of lorry cabs.[[little did I know then that I would know more about them] and deliver some to the same people in the garage…

There was a air of I will get going when I am ready! no sense of hurry at all,as I could then see
that Pete was blending in, I expect you do as they do!..unless you were all on the same firm and running together,or just widening his circle of [I met you before mates].?

When at last we made a attempt to get moving, the tank full of diesel all so the tank under the trailer that runs the fridge engine ,that uses RED diesel ,even more cheaper than England, as that diesel is tax exempt in England for Agriculture use only ,however it was used legally by hauliers using refrigerated trailers,as no direct profit is made from it…[more on diesel later]

Once clear of Zeebrugge ,you never went through the actual town, I was on the learning look out, all the different signs ,road marking and of course wrong side of the road ,well for me,however it did not seemed normal,well it was .Pete made a point for me to keep well sat back in my seat as not to block his view from the inside mirror .as that was his now important mirror for all his overtaking if he needed to.
The direction signs I were seeing were way far beyond the distance from where we going. I thought we were going into Holland I had no idea of where we were as Pete seemed to have no map,and I did not have one .however he knew the road and did not need a map we soon turned off the main highway [like our Motorways] and headed for Antwerp. I did notice that on top of the road signs there was a large green E number I found out later the E number on the signs are main transit through routes to all countries through out Europe…

We passed a most famous truck stop [with EUROPEAN DRIVERS] called Lockern .on the way out of Belgium towards the Dutch boarder The Boarder when we arrived was just like a pull in lay bye
with a few brick huts [agents offices] and a coffee shop.no fuss,a small trading estate building uparound the area go forward 20 years and it was massive…

Another fascinating episode. Hope you can sort out the problems with posting as we’re desperate for the next!

I followed Pete into a transit type large room with lots of open type rooms with uniformed female and male .customs. immigration, Police all lounging around, all with a side arm,not to busy, so Pete told me the procedures of entering Holland and what form to fill in,and who to go to first then it followed on. Easy, He said nearly all boarders work on the same principle. Police ,Immigration, Customs.

unable to post pages worth of writing ,i can preview it ok then a error 403 comes up in the left corner so cannot submit any more as yet,■■? is it my computer//i am able to post small writing for other replies but not my own…and if this shows ,IT WILL ACCEPT SMALL WRITING. ANY WIZARD ANY ANSWERS PLEASE

Bringing back some great memories there Vic, I can almost smell the arm pit’s of the lumpers…hope you get the computer problems sorted out soon…

Jeff…

Contact Rikki. He should be able to sort this out for you.

Are you copying and pasting or are you typing in direct?

you are cutting and pasting from a word doc or similar which injects HTML into the website… this screws up the websites own HTML breaking it :blush:

Now V------ I have also thought about my Driving history I go back to 1959 on vans in London, but the the Drivers I work with think I started on Horse and carts, ( they are not far out as I used to help a on a Milk round when the United Dairies used them), Didn’t you do any Leather or Wet hides? mind I’ve only read 2 posts, Did you do GEC/English Electric out of Rugby,

Hi Daventry[G] Thanks for the posts, the only wet hides have done was from the abattoir in town, n/ton.not many, however used to bring them back from southern ITALY salerno area, for ACH, FOR PATRICK kettering.dryed not wet…hope you are doing ok … 2 pints of full cream please…

Now you know why I don’t tell anybody what I’ve driven or done, I mean mention Scammels and metal gate change, and it’s what’s that, or Lipe clutches and they think I talking a foreign language, do you rember that Leyland Comet I had at Challis, at full bore I used to get a flame out of the exhaust as it had been re-routed to come out in front of the o/s front wheel, the times I would have car drivers pointing at it,

Daventry:
Now you know why I don’t tell anybody what I’ve driven or done, I mean mention Scammels and metal gate change, and it’s what’s that, or Lipe clutches and they think I talking a foreign language, do you rember that Leyland Comet I had at Challis, at full bore I used to get a flame out of the exhaust as it had been re-routed to come out in front of the o/s front wheel, the times I would have car drivers pointing at it,

I remember being overtaken on the motorway up Shap by a two stroke Commer at about 11.00pm once. He was doing about 70 and had a two foot flame coming from the exhaust!

Keep up the good work DBP, very interesting. If you’ve written the next episode in ‘Word’, copy and paste it into ‘Notepad’, this will remove all the HTML, then copy and paste again onto this site and it should be OK.

John

I followed Pete into a transit type large room with lots of open type rooms with uniformed female and male .customs. immigration, Police all lounging around, all with a side arm,not to busy, so Pete told me the procedures of entering Holland and what form to fill in,and who to go to first then it followed on. Easy, He said nearly all boarders work on the same principle. Police ,Immigration, Customs.
If you were loaded, and delivering into Holland you had to use a AGENT to process your paper work ,Roklod company used the same AGENT at all Benelux country’s. Boarders, that means that there is a automatic payment account. As w e were empty it was quick and straight forward pice of paper stamped up ready to hand to the gate man who lifted the barrier so you could region the main highway as we did,and me keeping well back in my seat as their were cars travelling fast along the road ,so Pete could see.
He told me that we had not far to go, I was rather disappointment I would have like to have gone for miles,we did cross one massive bridge over like a lake,/inland sea, the signposts coming up said to Arnhem ,the 2nd world war battle for the bridges ot looked as if we we were going near there

so that kept me busy writing place names down. For future reference,there were hardly any trees, no hedges, all dykes,canals ,and lots of people riding bicycles , not on the main road we were on but on the other country roads, Holland is known for bikes ,and tall people ,i can see why now,it all looked rural ,and flat .
We soon arrived at our collection point all nicely paved ,with flat sandy earth round the edges of the hard standing you could see the indentations in the base, where the lorry s have been been backed on to loading bays overtime ,unstable ground.
The time was getting on and getting dark I was surprised that we would be loading at that time ,however we were on the continent and their work time patterns were different to hours , as years went by factory’s in the U. K did introduce continental work patterns much to the disappointment of the unions.

Pete seemed well known at the cold store , [massive store holding all kings of deep frozen foods ] at temperatures minus -25 we were and loading different vegetables,and they were ready on pallets. I was told we would not be long, then asked would I like a coffee, in the mess room, with some other Dutch- men and Pete,after another round of handshakes and grunts and black coffee out of a massive pump flask[ never seen one before] they did have a tin of carnation condensed milk , [nice and creamy also a big jar of sugar on the table [not in ENGLAND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN STOLEN ] THAT,S US ALL OVER… ]and the smell of all the different tobaccos was ,intoxicating I loved it ,[THE HOME OF GOOD SMELLING TOBACCO]
made it taste better however Luke warm ,it was very quite for a factory for its size, I could see through the door widow lots of workers with white coats and head scarf’s big good looking warm boots on , you could not tell whether they were male or female. they were sorting and packing chips on a conveyor belt .it looked cold in there ,however that was not the storage freezer just a packing line also I noticed a stand on , riding, like pallet /fork lifts they were using to load our trailer another first ,the men were whizzing around with a loaded pallet on the front and they were standing on the back ,with a ,like bicycle handlebar steering it. Another first, lots of factory s just about have a fork lift , and all loading is done by hand …[not now,after 1990s]we got modern.

After I had took as much of the new goings on in ,i went and found Pete back at the coffee ,he told me that we were not allowed in the loading area,in some factory,s you had to stay in your cab in 2013 you have to hand your keys in to a office ,[so I am told]. We are loaded so we are told and asked to pull of the loading bay ,and Pete lets me do it and close the doors. When they are shut we go round to the front of the trailer and he shows me how to work the refrigerated unit, all the dials and different functions , I thought ■■■■ me, we have been sat about ■■■■■■■ around he could have given me the full tour of the fridge engine,[maybe he did not want me to know to much yet]?

So I get the basic of the fridge control workings, and then we go in and get the papers for the load and a very important paper called a C .M. R. ,That is the drivers legal travel document with the load it has all relevant in -formation typed on it, about 30 sections ,and it was never used in England ever ,unless like us delivering to England from Europe, then it is sealed up by the customs man,[ all the factory,s in Holland, Belgium, have a designated customs officer at the factory at all times] also the Benelux Country,s never bothered with the trailer garnet,so we were ready for the off .
Pete went and done his last handshaking routine,i kept in the cab ,[load of ■■■■■■■■] it was now dark and I wondered if I would get a drive,or do we park up, he said we will get back to the boarder do the customs,and I could have a drive when we leave the customs after that was finished for the Dutch side all was required at the boarder was a entry stamp into Belgium and we would be on our way back to a ferry which ferry port I had no idea.

Well Vic you were lucky to have a “mentor” my 1st Cmr trip to Germany came out of the blue the Boss came up to me and said " is your passport up to date"? “what passport”, over to P’boro for Passport, the next week I was on my way via Harwich/Hook of Holland on my tod I hadn’t a clue, the maps I took were next to useless, I soon bought better maps, as it was “own account” the Germans sorted the clearance when I got to my drop, I came back via Ostend, never again took one look at where the cabins were, (under the car deck) and spent the time in the lounge. Future trips used Sheerness/Vilisingen on Olau Line, also shipping agent was better at Sheerness could get clearance within 2 hrs not like Dover 10 hrs.

You done very well then [g] you must have had a good job.no messing with back loads then,i never used the olau .i used to go into as a back route for ZEEBRUGE from where that ferry left, across a little ferry, forgot the name…about 10min trip.you would have seen it.
As for maps i never had many for germany a a falkplan ,and i had a good ITALIAN one after time not needed. yes i remember the old comet as i had one there ,i used it on the cattle box trailer vacuum brakes, scammell coupling, 4 inline trailer …good old days.pleased i am away from the rat race.these computers are enough for me now ,switch off when i have enough…rgdsvic

If you were going from Holland to Belgium with a small ferry [10mins]it would have been Vlissingen\Breskens or Kruiningen\Perkpolder possibly :question:

Yes Hutpik the Breskins ferry you are correct i began to think i had got it wrong, about 10 guilders back then.thank you.are you reading my driving history a bit different from where you are from i bet…

I noticed straight away how heavy the trailer seemed to be, but the tractor unit was more than able to cope with the weight so I just drove on, Once we were clear and out of the customs area we drove along a bit ,he said just keep a good lookout in you nearside mirror ,and keep in lane , now I am chuffed, and he said when you see the sign for Ostend turn on to that road do not follow BRUSSELES ,and then goes and lies down on the bottom bunk and leaves me to it i was thinking how many more hours are we going to be working??
we had two small breaks one for 7 hours before the ferry ,then the ferry 4/5 hours we had been working since 5pm on the Monday evening ,it was now 8/9 pm Tuesday evening, and we were not yet finished for the day , we had been working for 28 hours with a 11 break .total illegal and no time to do what you wanted yourself as if you were at home on a break…,i was beginning to have doubts about what I was letting my self in to .but I thought if this is what they do to get around Europe , I will have to give it a try it was certainly different from cattle trucks or dock work, clean work ,cheap ■■■■, just carry on and see how it goes…

As we neared the road junction for the turn off I gave Pete a call , we were now on the road to Ost-end and he started to move around ,where are we ,he said, I told him ,and he said just follow the Ost-end sign, and give me a shout when you start to get near the town you will see all the lights in the distance, and you will come to a service station as soon as you get in to the outskirts.

Now I had pulled in the parking area ,a few lorries parked up. Pete once up, ■■■ on the go, he told me the options we had,of what to do now, I asked what he meant, the Zeebrugge would have gone by the time we had got there, not another sailing untill8am, so,!the Ostend ferry goes at midnight,or we could go to Dunkirk, however you need a pre-booking number for a ticket ,where as Ostend, ,Zeebrugge,the company has two pre reserved tickets for every crossing ,guaranteed. It was a game of where do we get the most time off without moving the lorry.[time off]

So Ostend it is ,he lets me still drive , I am following instructions ,however I did see the signs to the ferry port clearly signposted through the town, to the port , we arrive at the gate Pete told me what to say ,then we parked up then go into the ticket office, where Pete tells the staff that he would like a[ Plug in ]on the ferry , yes “ok it will be done,” I have no idea what he was on about , I would find out later ,no handshakes, very different from Zeebrugge we collect our tickets, and then go to the loading bays for loading on the ship and wait
I then asked what PLUG IN was,=

It is when you want the refrigerated unit on the trailer to keep going to keep the temperature correct while you are on the ferry ,you switch off the diesel engine that runs the engine,and you then plug into a electrical socket at the bottom of the engine with a electrical cable supplied by the ship into the ships electrician system .The ships run on a DC system ,not like our houses that are AC. How it all works I still am not sure, however when the cable [ just like the caravan 3 pin system] is connected you have to be in attendance with the ships electrician, as YOU! have to make sure that the fan that the engine has on the front of the fridge unit ,is on the right phase, that it is sucking in air to cool and work the fridge and not blowing out i.e. sucking the cold air out from the inside of the trailer and blowing the minus-24 air out ,it was a common occurrence if not checked…all you did was to stand at the front ,of the trailer fridge unit and throw a piece of tissue paper up to the front grill air intake if it sticks to the front all was well it if blew away you had a problem.[i got to know all this later on] …as you had to wait for the electrician, that took time, you could be first on the ferry loading deck but the last to go up, or down as on the Ostend ferry’s for food or a bed…waiting for a electrician…

The diesel fumes would eventually leave the bottom decks and creep up to the others decks [also the other reason the noise, fumes if any drivers are sleeping in their cabs] another option was to turn the fridge off ,and take a chance that the frozen goods temperature did not drop to much, if you had a long distance to travel after leaving Dover the temperature would drop to the required one. The only thing was you were unable to open the trailer back doors to check the produce temperature as the customs seal was not undone until at the delivery, if you had a customs check in Dover ,that was frequent , they would reseal the trailer and mark the C .M. R. as resealed ,and it was not unusual for the customs to be at Cold Stores around the country and to be checking all European imported goods …

It was all machinery V, I used to run to 3 factories, delivering part ex and collecting new, 1 m/c would fill a step frame 40ft tilt, that I’d deliver where ever in the UK, 1 trip would take the best part of 2 weeks, no cabbing it for me, hotels all the way, bearing in mind this was 1988/ 1990s my company credit card was in excess of £3000.oo It was the best job I’d ever had, the only down side was having to load in the morning and run when in the UK

Hi DBP.Don’t worry,i started out in the UK in 1971[just a sprog] with an AEC Mercury from BRS Elmstead mkt,got the sack for being too quick :open_mouth:.then roof tiles for Marley with a commer 6 Wheeler so iv’e had ■■■■ as well.Started doing international straight after that with a GUY big J then ME.Moved to Holland in the mid 7os.Lived up here now for 6yrs[so i could spend my last days in a stress free environment]Snow and Cold is easier to handle than ■■■■■■■■ and bureaucracy.

Hi DAV,it sounds as if you had it the jackpot back then,nice one.i hope you did not wear a collar and tie.lol ?big machines ,GEC, OR AEI,?i am pleased you had a good deal.That was some outfit BEWICKS,you had a good job there as well.where did i go wrong .if you keep reading my story you will find out …if you like…rgds v