Mudguard damage.

And the bone idle mongs that smear grease from their gloves on the side of the trailer or leave a hand print shape of grease.
Shunters drive around at warp factor speed when visiting drivers have to crawl around at 5 mph , and woe betide you if commit a crime on their land they own and the yard they own (Not), ie trailer in the wrong place, not walking in the line of the walk way or path , or you are late or too early and he will ban you from site.

For some reasons they hate lorry drivers but most have been one and they turn sour .

Some units have the 5th wheel mounted notably higher than the top of the mudguard.
Some have the 5th wheel witj only a couple of cm height difference. On these the trailer will rub when turning on eneven ground.
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Longer units are more likely to get problems too.

^^ well clean them then! It’s not difficult and demonstrates a sense of pride that is often lacking. A cup full of diesel poured onto the wing tops will remove grease.

You don’t always have to play Devils advocate you know.

the maoster:
^^ well clean them then! It’s not difficult and demonstrates a sense of pride that is often lacking. A cup full of diesel poured onto the wing tops will remove grease.

You don’t always have to play Devils advocate you know.

OK.
Diesel is an excellent way to remove scratches and scrapes from plastic wings.
See, I agree!

Another annoying thing is drivers that do not defect the trailer or unit and just saunter off home as it’s not their problem and have no time to inform the garage or planners.
So you turn up and have to VOR it and mess around finding another spare unit or wait until a night driver comes back to use that unit or even worse a time critical load that has to removed off the stricken trailer due to being VOR’ed .
Or the unit you are in all week is off the road and you have to remove what you need for the week away as the previous driver broke something and didn’t tell anyone and they always say it was alright when I left it .

Conor:
Driver incompetence. You’re supposed to drop the suspension so that it both puts the weight on the landling legs gently before you pull out so they’re not being dropped on the floor which bends them and that the front edge of the trailer doesn’t rip or pull off the rear axle mudguards.

If you’ve ever wound up the legs on a trailer and they’ve got to a point where they start to get stiff it’s because they’ve been bent both by morons who don’t lift up the suspension enough to make sure they’re off the floor when going under them and who don’t lower the suspension when pulling out so 10-15 tonnes of weight is just instantly dropped on them.

Moreover, why don’t these legs that don’t go all the way up get fixed at the next inspection? Jury is out if it is bad maintenance or bad driver to be honest. I’ve never taken one off and had a look. Could be full of crud for all I know.

Seriously though, some units seem to be more prone to mudguard damage due to the relative height of the mudguards. Just means the plastic has to be replaced probably in a five minute job, once every so often. Maybe save a fortune in paying a decent design engineer and put up with having to replace some plastic, who knows? It is a workhorse at the end of the day.

Debris and litter left on the trailer floor as previous driver didn’t sweep it out and the reload customer insists on a clean floor for food or drink standards, pet food, shrink wrap remains , grain, hay and straw ( Yes we did big and small bales of it inside tautliners )

Fertiliser, compost , turf, horse pellets, spilt food and drinks and spilt ADR chemicals or other substances for me to sweep out .Including discarded coffee cups and ■■■ butts .

Franglais:

the maoster:
^^ well clean them then! It’s not difficult and demonstrates a sense of pride that is often lacking. A cup full of diesel poured onto the wing tops will remove grease.

You don’t always have to play Devils advocate you know.

OK.
Diesel is an excellent way to remove scratches and scrapes from plastic wings.
See, I agree!

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Harmony is restored in our multiverse :smiley:

the maoster:

Franglais:

the maoster:
^^ well clean them then! It’s not difficult and demonstrates a sense of pride that is often lacking. A cup full of diesel poured onto the wing tops will remove grease.

You don’t always have to play Devils advocate you know.

OK.
Diesel is an excellent way to remove scratches and scrapes from plastic wings.
See, I agree!

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Harmony is restored in our multiverse :smiley:

Harmony. Lovely.
Clearly you’ve never heard me sing…lucky you!

The European chappies…

Have the offending section of mudguard missing.

the maoster:
Absolutely mate. I shunt once every 13 weeks for a week and trust me, the only time I touch trailer legs is on the odd occasion that a Scania driving subbie has dropped one of our trailers and it looks like it’s pointing to the moon. Otherwise I leave the legs exactly as the previous driver has dropped it. I do enough work when shunting without ■■■■■■■ about with trailer legs just to upset other drivers.

Spot on, of course but then shunting you would know that.

Drivers are the first to blame a shunter for everything whether it’s too high, or there is a defect with it etc. Never the driver who brought it back with the defect and didn’t bother to defect it or even tell the shunter etc.

I find the majority of shunters are helpful as I am when I shunt, but drivers don’t help themselves either by just abandoning their trucks anywhere they feel like because they are too ■■■■ lazy to walk any further than they need to.

yourhavingalarf:
The European chappies…

Have the offending section of mudguard missing.

Yes because of the 4m height rule or whatever it is the are so low coupled they would damage the wheel arch covers so can run without them fitted.

I believe that is the reason anyway.

the maoster:
You can tell at a glance what sort of driver someone is by looking at his air lines, if they’re a tangled mess then his wingtops will be manky, and vice versa.

Same with the front wheels, covered in thick brake dust? another chump who drives on the brakes.

simcor:

the maoster:
Absolutely mate. I shunt once every 13 weeks for a week and trust me, the only time I touch trailer legs is on the odd occasion that a Scania driving subbie has dropped one of our trailers and it looks like it’s pointing to the moon. Otherwise I leave the legs exactly as the previous driver has dropped it. I do enough work when shunting without ■■■■■■■ about with trailer legs just to upset other drivers.

Spot on, of course but then shunting you would know that.

Drivers are the first to blame a shunter for everything whether it’s too high, or there is a defect with it etc. Never the driver who brought it back with the defect and didn’t bother to defect it or even tell the shunter etc.

I find the majority of shunters are helpful as I am when I shunt, but drivers don’t help themselves either by just abandoning their trucks anywhere they feel like because they are too ■■■■ lazy to walk any further than they need to.

I have always found shunters to be helpful and friendly. I think most people’s bad opinions of them are because they tipped at Tesco Goole in the past and suffered the bolshy [zb] who used to shunt there. Understandable but it’s safe to go there now as he now drives for Howden’s. :smiley:

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Conor:

Boris1971:
Why drop suspension when uncoupling if legs are wound down to floor? And why will 10-15 tonnes drop on them if they are touching floor. And to clarify this is a ? Not a judgement on your methods.

Because there’s still some slack in the gearbox in the landing legs and the fifth wheel is also supporting the weight of the load in front of the landing legs until you pull out. It’s not a system designed to have a sudden load placed upon it.

We run at 43.5 tonnes when loaded with chipboard which is loaded in three stacks of two 4.5 tonne packs. There’s a 9 tonne stack in front of the landing legs. When you pull out from under the trailer you can see the front of the trailer bend down because of the weight.

Once you’ve fully lowered the legs doing a couple of turns using the lower gear will take the slack out of the system

Tarmaceater:
And the bone idle mongs that smear grease from their gloves on the side of the trailer or leave a hand print shape of grease.
Shunters drive around at warp factor speed when visiting drivers have to crawl around at 5 mph , and woe betide you if commit a crime on their land they own and the yard they own (Not), ie trailer in the wrong place, not walking in the line of the walk way or path , or you are late or too early and he will ban you from site.

For some reasons they hate lorry drivers but most have been one and they turn sour .

Was making a delivery a couple of weeks ago when the shunter was a tad off with me asking a simple question. 10 minutes later said shunter had reversed a trailer through the side of a box rigid causing considerable damage, now I realise it’s wrong but I did afford myself a wry smile [emoji848][emoji57]

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wrighty1:

Tarmaceater:
And the bone idle mongs that smear grease from their gloves on the side of the trailer or leave a hand print shape of grease.
Shunters drive around at warp factor speed when visiting drivers have to crawl around at 5 mph , and woe betide you if commit a crime on their land they own and the yard they own (Not), ie trailer in the wrong place, not walking in the line of the walk way or path , or you are late or too early and he will ban you from site.

For some reasons they hate lorry drivers but most have been one and they turn sour .

Was making a delivery a couple of weeks ago when the shunter was a tad off with me asking a simple question. 10 minutes later said shunter had reversed a trailer thro
ugh the side of a box rigid causing considerable damage, now I realise it’s wrong but I did afford myself a wry smile [emoji848][emoji57]

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Are you like me?
We KNOW we are perfect, and free of any chance of errors…but still, are human enough to have doubts?

Franglais:

wrighty1:

Tarmaceater:
And the bone idle mongs that smear grease from their gloves on the side of the trailer or leave a hand print shape of grease.
Shunters drive around at warp factor speed when visiting drivers have to crawl around at 5 mph , and woe betide you if commit a crime on their land they own and the yard they own (Not), ie trailer in the wrong place, not walking in the line of the walk way or path , or you are late or too early and he will ban you from site.

For some reasons they hate lorry drivers but most have been one and they turn sour .

Was making a delivery a couple of weeks ago when the shunter was a tad off with me asking a simple question. 10 minutes later said shunter had reversed a trailer thro
ugh the side of a box rigid causing considerable damage, now I realise it’s wrong but I did afford myself a wry smile [emoji848][emoji57]

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Are you like me?
We KNOW we are perfect, and free of any chance of errors…but still, are human enough to have doubts?

Oh I make errors and fully expect my workmates to rip into me for it the same as I would them, all part of the fun.

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With reference to foreign vehicles and their top mudguards missing, it may be removed as some have clips to take the top bit off as they get blow outs in the summer so with the top part missing it may let the heat dissipate.