ok so monday im running up to montrose with a 20ft flat rack to collect a load ( no idea what ) anyhow the boss was telling me about it can only be moved in daylight hrs etc etc
then he gave me a copy of the proposed route that i must take on the way back once loaded from west terrace it wants me to go up the a92 then onto the a937 then turn left onto the b974 to jump on the a 90
having looked at the b road on st view it dont look to clever the load im picking up is 3.2m wide and 2.81m high
so my question is for the guys who are up there is the b road ok with that load
and if not who do you speak to reguarding changing proposed route
Hiya…if you’ve been given a route the law is to go that way… i once come across a huge piece
of quarry equipment routed along the A54 congleton to buxton…when we managed to pass each
other i said to the driver, don’t go any further past the cross roads, go left into macclesfield onto
hazelgrove go right onto the A6 into buxton.the chap said its more than i dare do i’am routed this way.
unless since the convoy is done private and not by the police the law has changed.
John
Bleedin hell, the 54 is bad enough in an empty artic.
It’s too late to change the order as clear notice has to be given to police, traffic scotland etc.
Without knowing the load dimensions there isn’t much you can do.
Surely it could be a heavy load as opposed to wide or long?
The order wouldn’t, sorry, shouldn’t have been approved without the route being surveyed.
Do you have an ■■■■■■?
dowahdiddyman:
Bleedin hell, the 54 is bad enough in an empty artic.
Hiya dowahdiddyman. the chap was going to that plant show at hillhead, it a few years ago now.
he had a 10 ft wide screed on i think he said he was 70ton gross, as you know Bosley was far enough
in my mind. i never know how he got on, especially up the dunbas.
John
cliffton 27:
ok so monday im running up to montrose with a 20ft flat rack to collect a load ( no idea what ) anyhow the boss was telling me about it can only be moved in daylight hrs etc etc
then he gave me a copy of the proposed route that i must take on the way back once loaded from west terrace it wants me to go up the a92 then onto the a937 then turn left onto the b974 to jump on the a 90
having looked at the b road on st view it dont look to clever the load im picking up is 3.2m wide and 2.81m high
so my question is for the guys who are up there is the b road ok with that load
and if not who do you speak to reguarding changing proposed route
You’ve got to follow the route stated even if it is ridiculous. If you get stuck then you bell them up and let them sort it out. I had it once when taking a 45 tonne digger on a low loader to Liverpool prison. The movement order had me down residential streets to get there 
. I later found out the reason was because the main road fly-over couldn’t take the weight and the usual thing of going down the slip ramp and back up the other side couldn’t be done either because of major drainage works happening at the time.
clifton where is the load going and what type trailer are you using and whet weight is it?
i know why your being routed that way is too avoid the 13ft 9 bridge at inverkellor maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll … 02,0,4.95
the offical diversion route there is left at the montrose avoiding low bridge sign up to end then turn right to end then left back onto a92 n i.v met plenty 10 ft + going over that way but since you been routed on the bad b974 then you have no option, just watch the turn in to the bridge as it’s tight with little room for error on the b road
Rob K:
I had it once when taking a 45 tonne digger on a low loader to Liverpool prison.
how the hell did you smuggle that in 
scanny77:
Rob K:
I had it once when taking a 45 tonne digger on a low loader to Liverpool prison.how the hell did you smuggle that in
plenty of lube
Rob K:
You’ve got to follow the route stated even if it is ridiculous. If you get stuck then you bell them up and let them sort it out.
^^ This. If the traffic office are a competent lot then you should be OK. Crack on.
Once the load has had its two days of notification amendments can be made on the hoof so to speak with alterations faxed before any diversions are taken. The alternative is to crack on until you can no more, then bell up the traffic plod and let them sort the diversions with the attending officer amending your piece of paper and signing it with his name and number.
One thing is for sure is don’t rely on a route being satisfactory just because nobody in authority has queried it, the buck stops at the driver and operator, but then again 3.2m wide 6’ up in the air on a flatrack will be a piece of ■■■■ so I wouldn’t worry to much 
A movement ORDER is just that. Whoever the official is in your office who deals with it has to inform EACH POLICE CONSTABULARY the load is to travel through. They then tell you which road to use. For EG. If you have a heavy load going down from Liverpool to London then your man dealing with the heavy load has to ring each police force indivdually. When they get to Warwickshire police they tell you to come off M6 at Junction 0. Head up M1 to J20, do a U-Turn and start on M1 southbound. The bridge that takes you from the m6 to the m1 was not strong enough for heavy/abnormal loads so that is the reason why. The problem now since they replaced the bridge is that the new one still hasn’t been weight tested apparantly. Unbelievable !
If you don’t follow the order then you will be in big trouble should something happen or if you are stopped.
The benefits though is that you don’t pay for parking anywhere. If you have a movement order then motorway service stations can’t charge you for parking overnight as you are on a Police order. If you do park up then take the movement order to the till and tell them you are on a movement order and are parking there. They can’t charge you but you still have to put your reg in etc so the ANPR camera’s don’t charge your company because you haven’t told the services you are stopping. Even then some of the staff are a bit funny as they don’t understand what you are saying to them, but they can’t charge you.
chester1:
scanny77:
Rob K:
I had it once when taking a 45 tonne digger on a low loader to Liverpool prison.how the hell did you smuggle that in
plenty of lube
you would earn a mint if you could get that in also 
Movement orders and police routes are not always the right way. I once hooked to a trombone trailer in Banbury with a Demac overhead crane, 14’ wide by 70’ long and a police ordered route, pulled out of the industrial estate, drove a mile to a set of lights where I was supposed to turn left and the turn was not possible, I then took a right and parked on the road outside the police station to get them to sort out a good route 
They then told me to go to the roundabout at the top of the hill and turn around to go straight across the junction, in doing so I had to destroy the entire floral arrangement on that roundabout
scotstrucker:
clifton where is the load going and what type trailer are you using and whet weight is it?i know why your being routed that way is too avoid the 13ft 9 bridge at inverkellor maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll … 02,0,4.95
the offical diversion route there is left at the montrose avoiding low bridge sign up to end then turn right to end then left back onto a92 n i.v met plenty 10 ft + going over that way but since you been routed on the bad b974 then you have no option, just watch the turn in to the bridge as it’s tight with little room for error on the b road
im not sure of the weight been told its light and its going on a empty skell with a 20ft flat rack so it can always be shrunk if need be
thanks for the reply guys looks like il just have to ■■■■ it n see looking forward to it as we dont go north of the border much specially that far up hoping to reach banarkburn monday night then that just leaves me with a couple of hrs to go in the morning 
Hi,
I live in the area (Arbroath). Proposed route should be no problem, there is a
low bridge (14ft) at Hillside but that wont give you any problems. B974 isnt too bad
and you are only on it for a short distance.
mickyblue:
chester1:
scanny77:
Rob K:
I had it once when taking a 45 tonne digger on a low loader to Liverpool prison.how the hell did you smuggle that in
plenty of lube
you would earn a mint if you could get that in also
especially if the guards are that way inclined and you reply ‘no that isnt a 45 ton digger in my pocket, im just pleased to see you’
cliffton 27:
ok so monday im running up to montrose with a 20ft flat rack to collect a load ( no idea what ) anyhow the boss was telling me about it can only be moved in daylight hrs etc etc
then he gave me a copy of the proposed route that i must take on the way back once loaded from west terrace it wants me to go up the a92 then onto the a937 then turn left onto the b974 to jump on the a 90
having looked at the b road on st view it dont look to clever the load im picking up is 3.2m wide and 2.81m high
so my question is for the guys who are up there is the b road ok with that load
and if not who do you speak to reguarding changing proposed route
the route is generated by computer, get someone in the office to change it if your not happy with it, takes 2 mins
If your collecting the load then travel in on that route. At 3.2 M you only have 12" overhang each side. That’s only the same as your mirrors. If its going on a standard height trailer and not a step deck then low hazards are no problem.
If its going to be a problem at least you will know before you load it so the office will have chance to deal with it.