bald bloke:
do any of you out there know anyone who as ever been prosecuted for average speeding in a set of roadworks ?
Yes,
Points dont make prizes,
not in this game .
Speed is a contributory element ,
Negligence is the factor.
waddy640:
bubsy06:
waddy640:
bubsy06:
On another note why do cars do 70mph on the motorway but only 40-50mph on single carriageways?Simple, statistics show that motorways are safer.
Really■■? statistics show speed does not kill
Case proved then
Just google the amount of people done for speeding, if speed kills how the hell can they be done for speeding? they should be dead ffs 
Some drivers are they’re own worst enemies !
The limit is there for safety reasons and think yourself lucky you had a 50 MAX limit and not 40 as on some roadworks .
Be it roadworkers, tyre fitters , mechanics etc… the stats for these people killed at the roadside just doing their job are absolutely horrendous .
But hey , lets not hold up lorry drivers who want to batter up and down the road (on crap money no doubt ).
Marty B7:
Some drivers are they’re own worst enemies !The limit is there for safety reasons and think yourself lucky you had a 50 MAX limit and not 40 as on some roadworks .
Be it roadworkers, tyre fitters , mechanics etc… the stats for these people killed at the roadside just doing their job are absolutely horrendous .
But hey , lets not hold up lorry drivers who want to batter up and down the road (on crap money no doubt ).
Well said.
Marty B7:
Some drivers are they’re own worst enemies !The limit is there for safety reasons and think yourself lucky you had a 50 MAX limit and not 40 as on some roadworks .
Be it roadworkers, tyre fitters , mechanics etc… the stats for these people killed at the roadside just doing their job are absolutely horrendous .
But hey , lets not hold up lorry drivers who want to batter up and down the road (on crap money no doubt ).
Agreed!
Marty B7:
Some drivers are they’re own worst enemies !The limit is there for safety reasons and think yourself lucky you had a 50 MAX limit and not 40 as on some roadworks .
Be it roadworkers, tyre fitters , mechanics etc… the stats for these people killed at the roadside just doing their job are absolutely horrendous .
But hey , lets not hold up lorry drivers who want to batter up and down the road (on crap money no doubt ).
Isnt it the swerving into the hard shoulder or coned off area that kills then? surely a 44ton truck doing 50mph that swerves onto the hard shoulder is going kill someone, a 44ton truck doing 56mph that does not swerve onto the hard shoulder is going to kill nobody
bubsy06:
Marty B7:
Some drivers are they’re own worst enemies !The limit is there for safety reasons and think yourself lucky you had a 50 MAX limit and not 40 as on some roadworks .
Be it roadworkers, tyre fitters , mechanics etc… the stats for these people killed at the roadside just doing their job are absolutely horrendous .
But hey , lets not hold up lorry drivers who want to batter up and down the road (on crap money no doubt ).Isnt it the swerving into the hard shoulder or coned off area that kills then? surely a 44ton truck doing 50mph that swerves onto the hard shoulder is going kill someone, a 44ton truck doing 56mph that does not swerve onto the hard shoulder is going to kill nobody
so you basicly want to go faster than i what is the limit and to bugger with anyone in the vicinity ?
honestly mate , i am really concerned that people like you have a hgv licence
and its no wonder i am desperate to get out this industry after 25 yrs .
If I may.
I think the o/p was suggesting that, if the truck was on the max at 56 and the van was doing 90 prior to the roadwworks, then that suggests they were in a hurry. So why then slow to 45?
Im all in favour of people doing what ever speed they like. But in some cases like this, theres a lot of bloody mindedness about these 45mph merchants. A bit like the 39.9mph guys on the single carriageway then 56 when it goes dual because its no fun any more when you don`t have a mile of traffic behind.
A bit of consistency’s what’s needed.
bubsy06:
Marty B7:
Some drivers are they’re own worst enemies !The limit is there for safety reasons and think yourself lucky you had a 50 MAX limit and not 40 as on some roadworks .
Be it roadworkers, tyre fitters , mechanics etc… the stats for these people killed at the roadside just doing their job are absolutely horrendous .
But hey , lets not hold up lorry drivers who want to batter up and down the road (on crap money no doubt ).Isnt it the swerving into the hard shoulder or coned off area that kills then? surely a 44ton truck doing 50mph that swerves onto the hard shoulder is going kill someone, a 44ton truck doing 56mph that does not swerve onto the hard shoulder is going to kill nobody
A driver in a 44 tonner or any vehicle for that matter flying past a tyre fitter, mechanic etc working on the hard shoulder at 56mph is in my opinion showing a total disregard to the lives of said people. At least by travelling at a reduced speed, you will have more of a chance to react to things that happen and possible prevent yourself killing someone. Im sure if you were getting tipped somewhere and a forklift went speeding past you, maybe almost running you over, you would probably have a few choice words to say to the driver. Ive done recovery work and the hard shoulder is one of the most scariest places to be, let alone work on.
The 50mph thing through roadworks is becoming ingrained into people these days. There are often sets of night time road works where a lane or two has been coned off but no lower speed limit posted but a lot of drivers see the cones and slow down to 50 or less regardless.
shade:
ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated
Ha ha tops 
Hellish band.
bald bloke:
Well I don’t agree, I was following an artic 05.00 this Sunday morning at 56 then we met some road works he went down to 45 and so did the van in the middle lane who previously was doing about 90, now why were they not doing 50 it was like a ghost town that time of day.
Because they can. They paid for their driving license, just like you did, and they want to keep it, just like you want to keep yours.
HTH
damoq:
A driver in a 44 tonner or any vehicle for that matter flying past a tyre fitter, mechanic etc working on the hard shoulder at 56mph is in my opinion showing a total disregard to the lives of said people. At least by travelling at a reduced speed, you will have more of a chance to react to things that happen and possible prevent yourself killing someone. Im sure if you were getting tipped somewhere and a forklift went speeding past you, maybe almost running you over, you would probably have a few choice words to say to the driver. Ive done recovery work and the hard shoulder is one of the most scariest places to be, let alone work on.
I am recovery, heavy and light. I’m 15 stone, 6’4" and twice I’ve been lifted off my feet and thrown into the road by the draught of an artic passing flat out and close.
First occasion I was thrown in the air and landed in the centre of lane 1, nothing coming for 10 secs so time to scramble back to the hard shoulder.
Second time I was lifted right into the air and towards lane 1, I grabbed the curtain straps on the tautliner I was loading to save being thrown into the road. This time, heavy traffic, I’d have been thrown into the road and run over for sure if I never grabbed the curtain straps.
As you say, the hard shoulder is one of the most dangerous places you can be. I’ve been in the job 10 years and despite all the training, equipment, PPE and experience, it still it terrifies me.
Never take your eyes off the traffic and Always, Always, ALWAYS listen for the rumble strips.
DRIVERS: Spare a thought, slow down or move over. Someones life could depend on it.
It’s kinda annoying when peeps in front slow down to 45 and in turn everyone behind em, but they are probably doing an indicated 50 on their speedo, chances are your truck has had it’s speedo calibrated within the last 2 years and is a wee bit more accurate than that of cars. The other thing is psychology, almost every driver I know slows to the indicated limit when passing scameras, as SPECS (average speed cameras) are a bit of a mystery (some peeps must have missed that maths lesson) they tend to err on the side of caution. If peeps see the camera they slow down, if they don’t see it, like the ones hiding on the gantries on the variable speed limit m1 j25-j28, they don’t slow down, even when 40 is displayed.
bubsy06:
waddy640:
bubsy06:
waddy640:
bubsy06:
On another note why do cars do 70mph on the motorway but only 40-50mph on single carriageways?Simple, statistics show that motorways are safer.
Really■■? statistics show speed does not kill
Case proved then
Just google the amount of people done for speeding, if speed kills how the hell can they be done for speeding? they should be dead ffs
It’s the pram and mum on the pavement that got killed - not the driver. 
He wasn’t thinking of the Children FFS! 
There won’t be a pavement on the motorway, so sure they are safer!
A roads are worse - some family doddering out of some little chef equivilant and staggering through the bushes right into the LH lane of a dual carriageway… Presumably they put alcohol in the sausages or something, but they didn’t see the truck that hit them either! 
mickyblue:
bald bloke:
Well I don’t agree, I was following an artic 05.00 this Sunday morning at 56 then we met some road works he went down to 45 and so did the van in the middle lane who previously was doing about 90, now why were they not doing 50 it was like a ghost town that time of day.Because they can. They paid for there driving license, just like you did, and they want to keep it, just like you want to keep yours.
HTH
Well they ain’t going to lose their licence going 50 in a 50 are they,
bald bloke:
mickyblue:
bald bloke:
Well I don’t agree, I was following an artic 05.00 this Sunday morning at 56 then we met some road works he went down to 45 and so did the van in the middle lane who previously was doing about 90, now why were they not doing 50 it was like a ghost town that time of day.Because they can. They paid for there driving license, just like you did, and they want to keep it, just like you want to keep yours.
HTH
Well they ain’t going to lose their licence going 50 in a 50 are they,
If they are so concerned about their licences then maybe they should observe the other rules in the highway code and keep to the left and not drive in an inconsiderate manner…
That’s a different subject. My reply was to some one who is moaning about other road users doing 45 in a 50. Remember 50 is a limit.
How does 5mph effect your day?
If it was 3 lanes, you should of done them both in lane 3. Did that last week in the 40 on the m5 after some ridiculous mimsing. 
I try and do the limit but if it’s busy and I know I may get frustrated, I will just do 5mph below the limit so I don’t get banned again.
I agree with the poster, and it’s not about losing a few seconds of your day slowing down.
So you enter the limit doing 49mph, a few cars come racing past and slam on the brakes when you approach the first camera. So you get all the morons who have just overtaken you illegally, slowing down right in front of you (some guy doing 35mph other day), and you can’t get past as the next lane has a width restriction or has a car or van doing exactly the same speed as the car on the inside lane.
It’s a question of skill and ethics. I wouldn’t charge in front of someone and slow down right in front of them. Nor would I sit in the middle lane not overtaking anything. When you hit the speed restrictions all rules and code of conduct seem to fly out the window.
It’s not car drivers being civic minded either, as you will note that when only one gatso camera is mounted in a speed restricted zone, everyone flies past you doing well over the limit until the camera is reached.
I am getting better at dealing with it, in my mind I have a howizter mounted ontop of the cab.