dri-diddly-iver:
There should be a red X if it isn’t to be used in my opinion. There are quite a few people on the motorways that don’t use them regularly and could get confused easily. (Probably think the highway code is a secret lingo for traffic police)
A red X will remove any doubt and make the road safer for everyone.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
they seem happy enough to put up random advice on these signs, so why not that? As an aside I came up the M42 N/b at 8am this morning, heavy rain, lots of spray and fully expecting to see “30” or “20” flashing away, but nothing, zip, nada, diddly squat. And guess what? The (admittedly light) traffic coped with no dramas at all.
First time I’ve seen them not lit I reckon. Either the operators have new toys to play with, were hung over and still asleep, or maybe they themselves were planning on using said road and didn’t wanna screw it up for themselves!
dri-diddly-iver:
There should be a red X if it isn’t to be used in my opinion. There are quite a few people on the motorways that don’t use them regularly and could get confused easily. (Probably think the highway code is a secret lingo for traffic police)
A red X will remove any doubt and make the road safer for everyone.
Ditto
I know its slightly different but that red X system is used on the Aston Expressway with great success because drivers know that RED means NO GO
ahhh managed motorways like from the m25 to milton keynes… went up today signs saying use hard shoulder no one was… well i did and undertook loads… but the signs were also saying congestion and its not even busy yet the yellow signs were saying 40 and 50 but we all know the yellow signs are only advisory and not legally binding, but the speed cams on that section and the st albans section of the m25 arnt working due to legal issues , this was reported on local radio.
dew:
I can’t get my head round these “Managed Motorways”, in busy times the Hard Shoulder is transformed in Lane 1? So if a Vehicle breaks down it is basically forced into stopping in Lane 1 till a lorry wipes it away and several hundred feet over the banking at 56mph?
EDIT: Looks like I’m not the only one, just the slowest
Kerbdog:
Well done to the lady in the honda and the guy in the white sprinter around 8ish this morning who were both driving for 4 miles down the hard shoulder of the m6s from the m54 to j10 . Both drivrs are so competent that they didnt see any signs to indicate the hqrd shoulder was open for use. Even beeping the horn got me one of them completely oblivious looks.
have to admit I read it the wrong way too … but if the spelling police are here too it’s … Honda with a big H . drivers with an e. didn’t with a ’ between the n and t… a in hard not a q . and I didn’t do well at school at English at all.
dew:
I can’t get my head round these “Managed Motorways”, in busy times the Hard Shoulder is transformed in Lane 1? So if a Vehicle breaks down it is basically forced into stopping in Lane 1 till a lorry wipes it away and several hundred feet over the banking at 56mph?
EDIT: Looks like I’m not the only one, just the slowest
Recipe for disaster in my opinion, I was coming down near Luton last week and it was very busy, all lanes running and up ahead I saw lorries swerving into lane one off the hard shoulder as someone broke down, there was a fella frantically waving his hands about 50 yards before car trying to get everyone over. Deaths waiting to happen.
Do people that design and make important decisions over the development in our national road network actually drive for more than 1 hour a day and apart from the same route to and from work?? Clueless.
Well it’s been working pretty well on the M42 for years now. There are plenty of lay-bys to get into if you are in trouble and if someone does stop in a live lane then the signs come on very quickly. How is this any different to a normal road with no hard shoulder like the A14 for instance?
For about a year after it opened I would often find myself driving down an almost empty hard shoulder while the other three lanes were stationary. I sometimes used to nip up the slip roads and back down the other side too.
… but if the spelling police are here too it’s … Honda with a big H . drivers with an e. didn’t with a ’ between the n and t… a in hard not a q . and I didn’t do well at school at English at all.