MORE Fraud.

The Bank of England cut interest rates first to 0.25% and then to 0.1% during the first half of march.
There were announcements made by major high street banks that “They would be passing on the rate cut only to base rate tracker mortgage holders”.
The Bank of England released statements alongside those of our Chancellor Sunak that "We have acted this early so that this rate cut can be passed on in full, and there’s plenty of time to get the paperwork and arrangements done.

So… We are into a new month - and guess what?

NO CUT IN MORTGAGE PAYMENTS!

…Not merely “Not done in time”… - No letter arriving to point out that payments have been lowered in line with BoE policy and forward guidance.

These lenders - have seized upon an opportunity then to defraud many many customers who have contracts compelling these lenders to pass on BoE rate cuts in full within a reasonable period.
They’ve deliberately decided to “Ingnore” this contract.

https://www.moneywise.co.uk/what-bank-england-base-rate-cut-means-borrowers-savers-investors

It didn’t happen. The TWO rate cuts, sharp and very-much-needed by borrowers - didn’t happen, and shows no signs of “being about to happen” neither.

When rates go UP…

When rates go DOWN…

They’ve promised to follow suit - and have not. This makes their announcement of passing on rate cuts - fraudulent.
They didn’t even pass on the first of the two cuts made - This makes their announcement of intent to “lower rates for base rate trackers” - fraudulent.

Action is also in place right now to trick people into using what little they have left in income and savings - to pay down debts whilst going without other provisions to do this.

Once the debts have been paid - banks can then close accounts of people without further ado.
It isn’t easy to close an account - with an outstanding balance, however. A bank acting in this way - would effectively be writing off any outstanding amount… So they won’t and don’t do this.
People with positive balances - are already receiving near zero on their savings. They WANT you to close your accounts, or at least “pay to keep your account open in future”.

They are worse than “Gangsters” really, since at least a ganster will hold an actual gun to your head when making their “threats”…
What can the Police ever hope to do when it comes to bringing banks to account for the mayhem they’ve done people in the past, and the accerlated rate of public attrition they are going to bring about in the future now?
There should be no excuses for this - after all, returns on SAVINGS accounts were pretty much cut instantly - were they not?

Meanwhile, Sunak makes all these financial promises to struggling citizens and businesses alike - only for this anticipated flood of money coming the public’s way to “get intercepted by the very banks” that I speak of.
Double Fraud?

FFS We always new that the Banking System were part of the “Problem” rather than the Solution - but the blatent way they are acting now absolutely beggars belief!!

I strongly suggest that anyone waiting patiently for a “Grant” to bail out their ailing business - might want to make some alternative contigency arrangements, such as withholding money due to pay down credit cards, and other so-called “Bank Products”…

I don’t think much of this chancellor-promised bail-out money is ever going to materialize.

Want a Loan? - High rates of interest borrowing ONLY available to the likes of most people, regardless of credit rating…
Thus, everyone’s credit rating has de facto been destroyed at once by a combination of both the Banking System and that MI5-like arm of the banking system - Experion.
If a bank decides not to honour it’s own contracts, and pull the rug from ALL small to medium sized businesses…
When the smoke clears, there will only be Big businesses in the pockets of Deep State players left - the rest of us are GONE.

Is it any wonder that the hotlines for Universal Credit are jammed all the time, with so many falling off the wagon at once as we speak?

A banking Default against the Public - Who would have thought.

A banking Moratorium in the early 1930’s - did more damage to ordinary people with formerly ordinary amounts of money - than the Stock Market Crask of 1929 did…
that only hurt those actually opting to take a RISK after all.
What is going on now as then - threatens to ruin us ALL.

“Want this minimum wage job sonny? - Allow me to introduce you to my ■■■■■…”

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How big is your mortgage that a cut of a little over ½% will make a real difference?

My mortgage went down twice in 2 weeks so not sure who OP banks with? But it is being passed on…

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Winseer:

You would have hated to be 21 in 1980.More like if you want to keep this job etc etc no such thing as if you ‘want’ this job unless you were happy with going from £110 pw to £80 pw overnight.Oh and the interest rate was 14%. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Ironically I think many of my generation ended up being relatively worse off economically than our grandparents.As opposed to my parents’ who made hay while the sun shone during the late 50’s to early 70’s good times.

Santa:
How big is your mortgage that a cut of a little over ½% will make a real difference?

The cut being passed on in full - would have taken around £92 a month off… The rate cut was done early enough in March that my lender even said straight away that the cut would be passed on in time for the start of the next month… Alas, I have not even received a letter yet telling me what my new lower payment will be, and the April payment went out today - at pre-cut levels.

In other words, just a load of lip service from the banks, no cuts being passed on, or even lettered to that effect, and likey no £300billion injected into the economy at the People level - you’ve got to borrow it from banks at horrendous interest rates instead

Those businesses that now fall over - won’t be coming back I guess.
Meanwhile, taxes will be rising sooner or later - to pump more money into the NHS, since the Banks are not in the business of “Community Spirit”. :frowning: :frowning:

We could have all done with “Furlough Pay” and “Access to Universal Credit” or “A drop in the cost of living”…

Even the latter point - seems to be receding now, with investment bank money piling back into the markets again - money that should have been going to the public, in particular small to medium businesses…

The danger for the UK - is we are running three weeks behind Italy…

I hope there is still time for the government to STOP what the banks are doing here - a repeat of 2008. The bank behavour going on unmolested throughout their “moral hazard” period - likely led to Gordon Brown losing the 2010 election… Labour voters surely would have been disgusted at the way Taxpayer money was not only used to bail the banks out - but how the banks treated that public after… A withdrawal of cheap mortgages, higher rates on credit card borrowing, a collapse of returns for savers, and tighter criteria for businesses to borrow, and how much they can borrow.

I know the late Tony Benn wanted to Nationalize the banks… I can’t be alone in agreeing with that policy 100%… It is a shame that Corbyn couldn’t have talked tough about “Banking Controls” rather than “Workers will have to pay a little more tax to help the NHS”…

drover:
My mortgage went down twice in 2 weeks so not sure who OP banks with? But it is being passed on…

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I was hoping right up until the payment went out - that it would be a lower payment (base rate tracker) and I hadn’t got the confirm letter, simply because it was delayed in the post…

I remember when Skipton suddenly decided to raise their SVR whilst the BoE base rate was still falling… I wonder how many people ended up losing their house - because the banks got so greedy in raising their rate when base rates were still falling?

Well, it’s paid for this month. My income is currently zero, with me probably getting one more pay round for April - containing my 4 days holiday.
That’s not going to be enough to put food on the table for a month - let alone pay a full whack mortgage payment at the beginning of NEXT month. :frowning:
My application for UC - I get a phoneback in 2 weeks to “verify my ID” since the offices are closed, and there are no face-to-face interviews taking place.

I can’t be alone in what I’m experiencing here… The Irony that even if one remains in the fullness of health having successfully avoided illness… Only to end up destitute because the government didn’t ensure the rescue package actually got through to the very people currently losing their livlihoods, of which I can’t say I ever expected to be one of…
This might even crush the middle and upper working classes in a similar manner to the Weimar Republic in 1924 - but from a DEflationary crash rather than "Hyper"inflation.
The result might end up being the same as well… The rise of an extreme political party that no one has heard of as yet.
I don’t think anyone had heard of Hitler in 1924 - but a decade on, and that madman got to be in power on the back of a crushed economy successfully revived…
I’d rather we didn’t have a crushed economy to sow that seed of doom all over again - eh?
I wouldn’t put it past our incumbents to “get rid of” whom they think to be a likely contender, “nipping it in the bud” or so they’ll think…
Trouble is, such a future charismatic leader - is already foretold to rise from the eternal sea of politics - someone we’ve not heard of it. NOT someone trying to get elected then, but rather someone already in a position of power, just not in a political party as of yet… A senior civil servant perhaps? …Or even a disenfranchised Millbank worker even?
Forget “Robinson” or “Farage” or “McCluskey”…

Winseer:
Well, it’s paid for this month. My income is currently zero, with me probably getting one more pay round for April - containing my 4 days holiday.
That’s not going to be enough to put food on the table for a month - let alone pay a full whack mortgage payment at the beginning of NEXT month. :frowning:
My application for UC

You’ll probably be shocked at how low UC payments are.Probably karma for all those scrounger comments. :laughing: I mainly live on a packet of sandwiches per day and I’ve lost almost 2 stone I use a 1.5 kw fan heater to heat one room around 1 hour on 1 hour off only use the gas boiler for hot water when I need it.The TV licence is toast so no tele now.Don’t be surprised if they ask you to downsize your house they even suggested it in my case.But they’re not paying me any housing benefit so I said no thanks I like it it here where I am. :smiling_imp:

The entire banking industry should be taken over by the state - Permanently.

cav551:
The entire banking industry should be taken over by the state - Permanently.

Yep.Nationalisation by definition means Nationalist not Socialist.Now what if BL had been run within a protected market which banned imports of stuff we could make ourselves. :bulb: Instead of which we had the oxymoron of Nationalisation throwing public money at an industry which was being decimated by imports.Within the free market under Socialist policies which said we musn’t get ahead at the expense of our foreign friends and comrades.What could possibly go wrong.

Carryfast:

Winseer:

You would have hated to be 21 in 1980.More like if you want to keep this job etc etc no such thing as if you ‘want’ this job unless you were happy with going from £110 pw to £80 pw overnight.Oh and the interest rate was 14%. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Ironically I think many of my generation ended up being relatively worse off economically than our grandparents.As opposed to my parents’ who made hay while the sun shone during the late 50’s to early 70’s good times.

I left school in '82. It took me nearly seven long years before I finally landed a job where I earned the same amount as the person working next to me.

The period up until that point was “Yet another college course, no work for a year at least” or "You can have this job on YOP/YTS - £25 per week working 8pm-8am shifts Sunday to Thursday

Winseer:

Carryfast:

Winseer:

You would have hated to be 21 in 1980.More like if you want to keep this job etc etc no such thing as if you ‘want’ this job unless you were happy with going from £110 pw to £80 pw overnight.Oh and the interest rate was 14%. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Ironically I think many of my generation ended up being relatively worse off economically than our grandparents.As opposed to my parents’ who made hay while the sun shone during the late 50’s to early 70’s good times.

I left school in '82. It took me nearly seven long years before I finally landed a job where I earned the same amount as the person working next to me.

The period up until that point was “Yet another college course, no work for a year at least” or "You can have this job on YOP/YTS - £25 per week working 8pm-8am shifts Sunday to Thursday

Meanwhile at the age of 25 in 1984, still earning less than £ 100 pw, with 9 years of work behind me, around 2 of those almost suicidally depressed working in a factory still expected to turn out a reasonable product while training as an engineer on around £20 pw, I was turned down for a mortgage on the 4 bed house next door which sold for around £44,000 because 3 x my salary + more than £12,000 deposit wouldn’t cut it.It sold for around £78,000 around 3 years later.

But agreed £25 pw in 1982 you were being shafted.But that’s what happened when Thatcher had smashed the unions.The 1970’s were a different ball game militancy and solidarity that you obviously would/could never have known.Other than what you saw portrayed by Thatcher’s propaganda machine of the '84 miners strike.Which was the last and final time that the old wartime generation of workers showed us younger ones how to fight. :frowning: With Thatcher calling them Communists as she sold the country out to the CCP and every other foreign competitor. :imp:

I hated Thatcher throughout that time. I was very much one of “Maggies Millions”. All my mates were unemployed as well, with those few of them with jobs having qualifications like City and Guilds rather than O and A levels, or degrees… I coulnd’t vote for Labour, because they were unabashadly commie lovers at the time… I voted SDP the first time I could vote… “Return to your constituencies - and prepare for government!!” - I remember it well… What a damp squib THAT election ended up being!

That’s what Thatcher did to us school leavers - decimated all those things we’d studied at school, and rendered them totally worthless, whilst becoming totally irremovable in office.
I didn’t start getting better off financially until I had a recession proof job, and watched others fall past me during the housing crash 1989-1994… I couldn’t get a mortgage, so I didn’t lose out during this crash, in particular - didn’t lose the ability to get a mortgage at some date in the future…

VOCATIONAL qualifactions were the way to go back then, and I ended up sticking with that in the end - didn’t I?
I never went back to Science and Tech after Wellcome cancelled their apprenticeship programme at Dartford, and of course later merged with Glaxo, and closed the Dartford plant down…
Tried to get a job at Pfizer at Sandwich - only for that place to go into steep decline and eventual closure as well.
It wasn’t until after I started work on the mail trains (my first job earning the same as everyone else…) - that I decided a Trucker’s licence would be a good way to go, and didn’t look back from there…

Winseer:
I decided a Trucker’s licence would be a good way to go, and didn’t look back from there…

Who would have thought then that it would have ended up in this cluster zb even with Maggies’ destruction.

Even at its worst I loved the 1970’s and I always knew that I was going to absolutely detest the 21st century with a passsion as it got ever closer.It’s exceeded all my expectations and then some in that regard.I’ll never forget the stinking words of all those change is good muppets.

When I think how the 1960’s and 1970’s were still recognisable to my Granparents generation in terms of character and surroundings and society with the win win that they could generally, although not always, see things getting much better economically for their children and grandchildren than what they had known.Now this utter and complete zb up with those like Thatcher being up to their necks in blame for it.

I would have loved to have been a teenager around the time I was actually born…

The 60’s and 70’s - must have been a good time for those already of age to enjoy this more “adult” environment,

but like Elton said “…But I was just a kid”…

Even today, we see signs of “Thatcherism” with people like Mick Ashley, making the money off the backs of others, rather than being a real wealth-creator, which would be any Gaffer making his or her workplace “You don’t leave there, except in a wooden overcoat” - as my Grandad used to say…

Winseer:
I would have loved to have been a teenager around the time I was actually born…

The 60’s and 70’s - must have been a good time for those already of age to enjoy this more “adult” environment,

I always said I’d have been really happy to have been around 10 years older.I’d have started work in around 1965 and not spending as long in this stinking new century that the Thatcher legacy has lumbered us with.A powerful China throwing its weight around at the expense of the west and Kennedy’s way forward abandoned at home let alone taken up here.

Look on the bright side at least no call up for Vietnam like the US 1960’s early 70’s youth.Commy scum causing trouble as usual on the manor.