Hi All,
Got a bit of a moral dilemma.
There’s a really brilliant job I have a contract to cover for sickness/holiday etc. I’ve been doing it occasionally for about 2 years now and I love it. Simplest job in the world, great facilities at every drop, nice amount of driving and decent kit.
The lad who usually does it, however, has had a few mishaps recently and they rang me today saying that if I would take the job then they will get rid of him. On excellent terms and pay with a start at the end of the month.
If I don’t want it, however, they are going to retrain the current chap and give him penalties as per his contract, but their customer isn’t happy with his performance and is causing them issues.
I have grown to know the regular driver very well over the past year or so and we have become pretty good friends. Go to the pub perhaps once a month, my Mrs and his Mrs get on well etc.
I don’t really want him to be kicked out of his job but he is a truly terrible driver, and the first to admit it too, always damaging stuff just out of his refusal to strap anything down as “It’s only a trunk”
Do I take the job, which is as close to my dream driving job as I’ll ever get, and do the dirty on someone who isn’t a mate, but I know well. Or do I let it go and turn down my dream job for the sake of not p-ing someone off?
As long as you’re not sleeping with his mrs go for it…lol
Accept it, wait for them to push him, tell him they offered it to you. Then see how the land lies.
Never mix business with pleasure. 
business is business. if he cant handle that then tough. it isnt personal
Simple. Do as you would be done by.
Do unto others as they would do unto you
but just make sure you do it to them first
wise words i was taught years ago.
Pimpdaddy:
As long as you’re not sleeping with his mrs go for it…lol
I’d take it and sleep with his Mrs (any hole is a goal!)!
As everyone says above, accept the offer, never look a gift horse in mouth. Not sure doing his wife is advisable…leave that until you’ve got the job in question, concentrate on one thing at a time kind of thing!!! 
C
You gotta look after number 1
Golden opportunity, and you could maybe get the best of both worlds.
Accept the job.
First shift, drop your colleague a text “You on your death bed mate or just having a day on the drink?”
He’ll reply " got the sack", you answer “no way, the gaffers just rang me to cover your shift at short notice, I assumed you rang in sick”.
As long as he never finds out you knew he’d get the push before he did (by posting it on a public forum, for example), then I’m sure he’d be fine with it.
He’ll see it as exactly that, he got the sack for being crap, they rang you to replace him.
End of the day, look out for number one.
Hi mate,
I think you have to decide whether he’s a friend or not.How well do you know his temperment?
Your mate will hear soon enough that you’ve shafted him…what might the long-term
repercussions be? Is your mate a good bloke who wouldn’t come round and beat the crap out of you? 
People come and go, jobs come and go, such is life.
I would listen to my gut feelings and do accordingly. Only you know the answer.
att:
People come and go, jobs come and go, such is life.
I would listen to my gut feelings and do accordingly. Only you know the answer.
Hmmmmmm, philosophical advice this young Jedi has
Look at it from another point of view:
The customer is unhappy, they want him gone. By his own admission, he’s not employee of the year.
Are you and your mate the only two people who can work for the agency?Will the agency think “Oh well, if Mr Scarab doesn’t want the job then we’ll have to keep him on and the customer will just have to put up with him” ?
No, they won’t. There’s plenty of drivers out there itching for a job. They’ll still sack your mate, but get someone else to replace him. Your mate is still out of a job, but now your dream job has gone to someone else.
Either way, your mate will lose his job. That’s definate. Big question is, who’s going to replace him? You, or someone else?
Only way this situation can have a (partially) happy ending is, if you get the job you want.
just be honest say you have been offered the job one thing taking the job but not telling him the truth is something u may not forgive if it was one of my mates taking my job i would respect them being honest with me
The guy will get the push one way or another. You want the job not " his " job.Get the job and stop zb ing about.
Got to say, it’s not very professional the way the agency have gone on in this case.
They’ve put you in a compromising situation, and they’ve told you your mate’s gonna get the sack before they’ve told him. That’s not very good in my eyes.
All they had to say was: "Mr Scarab, we’ve potentially got a job coming off next week, initially for a couple of weeks but should be ongoing/could become permanent. If the job does come off are you interested and could you start straight away if needs be "?
If they’d have just said that, no compromising situation/moral dilemma for you, no rotten eggs for your mate.
cieranc:
Golden opportunity, and you could maybe get the best of both worlds.
Accept the job.
First shift, drop your colleague a text “You on your death bed mate or just having a day on the drink?”
He’ll reply " got the sack", you answer “no way, the gaffers just rang me to cover your shift at short notice, I assumed you rang in sick”.
As long as he never finds out you knew he’d get the push before he did (by posting it on a public forum, for example), then I’m sure he’d be fine with it.
He’ll see it as exactly that, he got the sack for being crap, they rang you to replace him.
End of the day, look out for number one.
I have to agree, this makes sense!
cieranc:
Golden opportunity, and you could maybe get the best of both worlds.
Accept the job.
First shift, drop your colleague a text “You on your death bed mate or just having a day on the drink?”
He’ll reply " got the sack", you answer “no way, the gaffers just rang me to cover your shift at short notice, I assumed you rang in sick”.
As long as he never finds out you knew he’d get the push before he did (by posting it on a public forum, for example), then I’m sure he’d be fine with it.
He’ll see it as exactly that, he got the sack for being crap, they rang you to replace him.
End of the day, look out for number one.
The only part of this I agree with is the last sentence…
Although I understand the reasoning behind the rest of it, it doesn’t sit easily with me…
However…
cieranc:
Look at it from another point of view:
The customer is unhappy, they want him gone. By his own admission, he’s not employee of the year.
Are you and your mate the only two people who can work for the agency?Will the agency think “Oh well, if Mr Scarab doesn’t want the job then we’ll have to keep him on and the customer will just have to put up with him” ?
No, they won’t. There’s plenty of drivers out there itching for a job. They’ll still sack your mate, but get someone else to replace him. Your mate is still out of a job, but now your dream job has gone to someone else.
Either way, your mate will lose his job. That’s definate. Big question is, who’s going to replace him? You, or someone else?
Only way this situation can have a (partially) happy ending is, if you get the job you want.
…this I very much agree with.
I wouldn’t lie to your mate, it may be better to say nothing…but be honest when you’re asked…
think of it the other way say you was the one getting the sack and your mate was offered your job. would he take it course he would, dont worry about it. principles are fine but dont put money in the bank . only you know what to do at the end of the day .when do you start