My gaffer has been asked to investigate the feasibility of running furniture down to Montenegro!
My question to all those that are far more experienced in running that far afield is how feasible is it? What is the best routes? and any other useful information that I can give him.
It is feasable, the firm i work for have been there quite a few times, the last time that i know about for sure was last summer, but they’ve prob been there since i would guess.
Have never been there but it definatly sounds like an interesting little run!!
On google maps it suggests France, Belgium, Germany into Austria then into Hungary and Serbia via Budapest and Belgrade, skirting around Bosnia and entering into Montenegro at a place called Gostun!!
Or try Austria down through Slovenia into Croatia to Zagreb avoiding Bosnia Hercogovina then drop down to the Dalmation coast and straight down to Split and head south.
Alternativley, you could go via italy, Anconna and get the ferry across to Split then drop down through Croatia passing Dubrovnic!!
Sounds a lovely drive but will probably be more expensive that way due to the ferry crossing!!
Good luck which ever way you decide and if it comes off then take some pics and a diary.
I must admit it does sound interesting and am getting hopeful as it sounds as if it is quite feasible. It would not be a one off either, more of an infrequent but regular run.
I know the gaffer is getting quotes to ship from Bari to Bar in Montenegro but I don’t know how expensive that will be and more to the point, thats got to be the boring route I fancy a nice drive down, not just another Italy
YOU need to look at all possible route,s and
and what each one will cost,IN the way of road charges
alomg the route, any tunnel charges, cost of ticket,s
for first either the SHUTTLE::CHANNEL-FERRY,
kombi-train,or Ökombi,and then the cost from
ITALY with what ever ship company you will use,
Read through all of the stickies on the euro-
forum post,as here you will find lots of usefull info
and also links where even more knowledge is
to be found ,
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The route that you will use may not only depend, on
costs, but also the little problems, that may dictate
what route you can use, For instance the Summer
driveing bans in EUROPE or when they are in force,
GERMAN BANK HOLIDAYS and SUNDAY driveing
bans ; AND the bans in the other EU countrys
which are either in force or are additional bans just for
the summer holidays, will have another look and see what else
i can find that which may be of intrest and help ,
I’m with a group which has these last few days returned from Kosovo via Montenegro.
We left from Vlissingen via German A3, then Graz in Austria, then thru Slovenia to the Croatian motorway system which now extends to about 20km south of Split.
Significant delays at Slovenia/Croatia border (just volume of trucks), but with the right paperwork the Croatio Montenegro border should be straightforward as truck volume was not high.
There’s an awkward country diversion of about 50km just north of Dubrovnik but otherwise no problems on the roads. Part of the route through Slovenia to the border near Ptuj is on two way roads.
Hope that helps
Edited just to say that the route via Gostun would not be suitable IF your destination is the coastal area or Podgorica. We covered most of that route on the way to Kosovo and it has extensive roadworks on steep mountain roads, and also in places the road is cut into the rock with dangerous overhangs above - it is however a spectacular drive.
I believe that on the coastal route you will have to go over the Chakor Pass & unless its changed is a bit of a nightmare. But the last time I was there the whole place was called Yugoslavia.
I have just returned with Petrock from Kosovo with the humanitarian aid convoy and has he has already said we had to go to and return from Kosovo via Montenegro. We were double manning there and back so on some days we managed to get further than you would as a single driver although most days we never went over a 10 hr drive in total. I have done a quick breakdown below on times and tolls if it helps. We shipped into Vlissinggen from Dagenham and this saves about 2 hrs on the first days drive.
Vlissingen to Suben approx 12 hrs drive ( add another 2hrs for Calais)
Suben to Ptuj ( Slovenia) aprrox 8hrs drive
Ptuj to Split approx 7hrs drive
Split to Gruda ( Montenegro border) approx 6hrs drive.
Gruda to Podgorica ( Montenegro capital ) approx 4hrs drive.
Because we are carrying humanitarian aid we dont have to pay any tolls in Holland Belgium or Germany, In Austria its approx 130 euros each way from Suben to Speilefeld border. There was only a 2.90 euro charge in Slovenia from the border to Maribor and from there to the Croatian border its A roads.
From the Croatian border to Zagreb is about 20 euros, from Zagreb to the end of the motorway just south of Split should be approx 90 euros but again we didnt have to pay on this motorway because the nature of our load.
When you get into Montenegro make sure you use the ferry accross the bay approx 45 mins from the border, its 21 euros but saves about 48kms on very twisty roads, its a bit like the woolwich ferry you are only on for about 10 minutes. From here on the roads are up and down and twisty and narrow in places but with some lovely views through some very up and coming holiday resorts especially Budva.
If you are going to Podgorica , when you get to Petrovac ignore the signs for Podgorica and follow signs for Bar, then when you get to Sutamore you will pick up the signs again for Podgorica through a new tunnel this route is a lot better than turning off in Petrovac, The tunnel charge is 18 euros apart from that there were no other road charges in Montenegro. The roads are definatly not the best in the world and as you climb over the mountains they can be dangerous especially if you have not been on them before and you travel at night ( which is definatly not recommended).
I have some video footage and photos and as soon as I have had time to get them uploaded I will put a link on here.
Hope the above is of help should you get the chance to go, but if you have any more questions please ask.
Paul
Thank you all for advice and tips. I have passed it all on to the gaffer and hope that it comes to fruition. If it does, no doubt I will be back on here with the diary of the events!!