Carryfast:
As for the pre limiter ERF with 320-400 ■■■■■■■ in it on pre traffic calmed motorways v modern limited computerised toy on a smart motorway.No chance all you’d see would be tail lights then it would be gone.
Until the first hill, then my fully freighted fh 500, with its modern computer and cruise control, will make you look rather silly
No chance my son we are back to pre limiter days and we have hit the bottom of that hill at about 75 under full power and you are just a distant memory. Oh for the good old days when we had hair and no sense
Carryfast:
As for the pre limiter ERF with 320-400 ■■■■■■■ in it on pre traffic calmed motorways v modern limited computerised toy on a smart motorway.No chance all you’d see would be tail lights then it would be gone.
Until the first hill, then my fully freighted fh 500, with its modern computer and cruise control, will make you look rather silly
No chance my son we are back to pre limiter days and we have hit the bottom of that hill at about 75 under full power and you are just a distant memory. Oh for the good old days when we had hair and no sense
Carryfast:
As for the pre limiter ERF with 320-400 ■■■■■■■ in it on pre traffic calmed motorways v modern limited computerised toy on a smart motorway.No chance all you’d see would be tail lights then it would be gone.
Until the first hill, then my fully freighted fh 500, with its modern computer and cruise control, will make you look rather silly
No chance my son we are back to pre limiter days and we have hit the bottom of that hill at about 75 under full power and you are just a distant memory. Oh for the good old days when we had hair and no sense
Seconded ,no chance .
Thirded, sure i can’t be the only one who wished he had kept some of the old tachos that got used on nights, where the needle would go to the top of the card and draw a neat solid compass line around the circumference for maybe and hour or two before dropping back to normality.
This computerised stuff could have as many zeros in the bhp number as you like, still wouldn’t live with a good motor from those days.
Judging by how most gutless modern motors are (there are exceptions of course), i reckon you need around 150 or more hp now to make up for the emissions crap, in other words a 320/350+ 14 litre unhindered ■■■■■■■ would match a smaller capacity but higher bhp figured modern no trouble, helped no end because there was no lag and no delay whilst the gearbox engine and management exchanged several memos before allowing progress.
Judging by how most gutless modern motors are (there are exceptions of course), i reckon you need around 150 or more hp now to make up for the emissions crap, in other words a 320/350+ 14 litre unhindered ■■■■■■■ would match a smaller capacity but higher bhp figured modern no trouble, helped no end because there was no lag and no delay whilst the gearbox engine and management exchanged several memos before allowing progress.
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Juddian, interested to hear your praises of the “Old Reliable” 14 litre ■■■■■■■■ I worked at a company that from 1972 started making turbos for all the ■■■■■■■ range. I had the pleasure of visiting the Shotts engine plant that built them for this side of the Atlantic (as well as most other ■■■■■■■ plants here and in the US) and was always impressed by the emphasis on reliability and durability.
I know a lot of effort was put into reducing turbo lag and improving flexibility, hopefully with some success.
Carryfast:
As for the pre limiter ERF with 320-400 ■■■■■■■ in it on pre traffic calmed motorways v modern limited computerised toy on a smart motorway.No chance all you’d see would be tail lights then it would be gone.
Until the first hill, then my fully freighted fh 500, with its modern computer and cruise control, will make you look rather silly
To be fair there are other possibilities in the day.Trust me an unlimited around more or less 10hp per tonne is going to be a tough act to follow at 90 kmh max.
Wonderful engine it was too Buckstones.
IIRC, the big cam versions developed around 90% of max torque from 800 rpm, certainly you needed none of this 12/16 speed gearbox malarkey, with a simple 8 speed roadranger you could drive it all day long using only the top 5 and never exceed 1100 rpm, which in top coincidentally 1100 rpm was a true 70mph cruise.
Never heard of a turbo failure, nor engine failure for that matter, but the company i worked for which had mainly ■■■■■■■ engines towards the latter years maintained them impeccably, it paid off in spades and again when resale time came when an orderly queue of OD’s and small hauliers formed up to take them on.
I’d have a 14 litre ■■■■■■■ again tomorrow and be a young pup with two tails once more …whether me hair would darken, me aches and pains vanish and miraculously i wouldn’t need to pee every ten minutes again as we stepped back in time is another question
No rose tinted glasses here ,as the owner of a E14 320 I can tell you be it a 500 or a 750 you cant keep up doing 56 or what ever you do no matter how big the hill or how much slower the 320 goes up them ,there’s more flats than hills !
I seem to remember being here before with the super high power trucker switch,
I think I worked out last time that when he’s got a 1000 hp motor he’ll save that much time that he’ll get parked up and finished before he’s even set off!
switchlogic:
Lot of rose tinted specs on this thread that’s for sure.
There might be a little rosey tint when it comes to comfort as opposed to your 750 trickling along all day but in the pre limiter days it was the norm to cruise at 65/70 mph and still have a little more for overtaking so when you roll up that first hill at 56 we would have been 7 or 8 miles up the road
switchlogic:
Lot of rose tinted specs on this thread that’s for sure.
There might be a little rosey tint when it comes to comfort as opposed to your 750 trickling along all day but in the pre limiter days it was the norm to cruise at 65/70 mph and still have a little more for overtaking so when you roll up that first hill at 56 we would have been 7 or 8 miles up the road
Punchy Dan:
Nowt up with an AEC no doubt it’s very high geared ?
0.75:1 six speed overdrive gearbox, 4.08:1 diff. One of the original motorway flyers although with only an AH470 it would not have stayed with a Midland Red CM 6.
switchlogic:
Lot of rose tinted specs on this thread that’s for sure.
There might be a little rosey tint when it comes to comfort as opposed to your 750 trickling along all day but in the pre limiter days it was the norm to cruise at 65/70 mph and still have a little more for overtaking so when you roll up that first hill at 56 we would have been 7 or 8 miles up the road
I dont get what’s to boast over hp in a lorry these days anyway. It’s not like it’s your own bicep measurement or manhood size, it’s a machine. And a work owned one. Beyond a certain hp, they all pull pretty well these days. The old lorries didn’t. That bit of of didn’t bother me anyway. Crawling up a hill is hardly Russian goulag labour, you’re travelling slower doing your job. Old wagons were crap to live in though, cold, rattly and some had naff gearboxes.
Well rose-tinted specs or not; for the sheer pleasure of driving, give me a 14-litre straight-six (preferably ■■■■■■■■ and a constant-mesh gearbox (preferably a 9-speed Fuller) . Of course I miss them! I’m retired now, but even when I was still driving I missed driving proper lorries . The ‘we’ve moved on now’ brigade possibly don’t appreciate how much more fun driving was in a '70s ERF (sigh!) . I’ll get back to my nightcap and mutter mutter…
Oh! And by the way… if the bloody thing stopped you could get your overalls on and climb underneath to sort out the ‘maccano’! Can’t now! Robert
Freight Dog:
I dont get what’s to boast over hp in a lorry these days anyway. It’s not like it’s your own bicep measurement or manhood size, it’s a machine. And a work owned one. Beyond a certain hp, they all pull pretty well these days. The old lorries didn’t. That bit of of didn’t bother me anyway. Crawling up a hill is hardly Russian goulag labour, you’re travelling slower doing your job. Old wagons were crap to live in though, cold, rattly and some had naff gearboxes.
I think you’re confusing the massive gap between the performance and comfort levels of older types v the strictly controlled but more comparable outputs and performance of newer types.IE then it could be anything from a day cab Volvo F7/DAF 2300/2500 to a V8 Scania 142/3 or Volvo F12,V8 IVECO,DAF 3600 or the big power Rolls/■■■■■■■ Brits.Any of the latter would be more than capable of sorting out a limited modern in those 38t gross pre limiter times.
Freight Dog:
I dont get what’s to boast over hp in a lorry these days anyway. It’s not like it’s your own bicep measurement or manhood size, it’s a machine. And a work owned one. Beyond a certain hp, they all pull pretty well these days. The old lorries didn’t. That bit of of didn’t bother me anyway. Crawling up a hill is hardly Russian goulag labour, you’re travelling slower doing your job. Old wagons were crap to live in though, cold, rattly and some had naff gearboxes.
I think you’re confusing the massive gap between the performance and comfort levels of older types v the strictly controlled but more comparable outputs and performance of newer types.IE then it could be anything from a day cab Volvo F7/DAF 2300/2500 to a V8 Scania 142/3 or Volvo F12,V8 IVECO,DAF 3600 or the big power Rolls/■■■■■■■ Brits.Any of the latter would be more than capable of sorting out a limited modern in those 38t gross pre limiter times.
…whether me hair would darken, me aches and pains vanish and miraculously i wouldn’t need to pee every ten minutes again as we stepped back in time is another question 
. I’ll get back to my nightcap and mutter mutter… 