Now I’m far from a great driver but I have the misfortune to drive a pair of Scania’s with well shagged out gearboxes (a 4/4 and a 3/3 with splitter) I’d say that missing a gear is a pretty rare thing, certainly not something I’d ever give a thought to.
Yet watching Ice road truckers 
it’s all they seem to go on about, I understand that if they do ■■■■ up then it’s a bit more of an issue but they are always missing gears on steep climbs. I’d have thought coming to a stop and having to chain up in minus 30 conditions would make you better.
But its a lot more difficult to miss a gear with a synchro box in your Scanias than a constant mesh which is the norm over there, I believe, especially when you are worrying about making the shift anyway!
when i drive a manual truck i always miss gears sometime by only going up 1 n half gears
Steeveo surely you mean a crash box is harder to master
synchros are easy
If they stopped driving antquated american trucks, and used decent trucks, they would’nt have the problem!. I mssed a gear going up Dettling hill the other day, just passed a tanker going slower than me, and luckily was able to recover without causing him more problems, I was in a shagged out old DAF so thats my excuse, and I’m sticking to it! 
8wheels:
Now I’m far from a great driver but I have the misfortune to drive a pair of Scania’s with well shagged out gearboxes (a 4/4 and a 3/3 with splitter) I’d say that missing a gear is a pretty rare thing, certainly not something I’d ever give a thought to.
Yet watching Ice road truckers it’s all they seem to go on about, I understand that if they do ■■■■ up then it’s a bit more of an issue but they are always missing gears on steep climbs. I’d have thought coming to a stop and having to chain up in minus 30 conditions would make you better.
But if Ice Road Truckers showed proper drivers and a normal job there would be no TV show. It is like watching; I’m a B list celebrity get me into the big brother house
Ice Road Truckers is my excitement for the week Malc! How could you… 
I dontmis gears because i am perfect and drive a auto but i do like ice road kelly mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The worst one is when you’re auto box misses a gear and goes up 2 when you’re loaded climbing a ■■■■■■■ of a hill 
We had an old EC11 that didn’t have 6th gear, that was always fun to drive
Ha, I completely bollocksed up a gearchange today turning into a narrow uphill driveway whilst loaded. Complete standstill . Still at least I didn’t spin out and have to chain up.
I don’t understand why they balls it up so often, I’ve got a non synchro 18spd Fuller box and I very rarely miss a gear, I had some experience of constant mesh boxes earlier in my career, but for the last 15yrs or so I had synchro boxes or autoshifts, that lot have never had a synchro box, so you’d think they’d know how to use a constant mesh box by now
I guess there’s drivers and there’s screwdrivers 
BTW, all that IRT stuff is bollox, the Alaska season especially, nothing they get up there is anything different to what we get in Western Canada or the North Western States, temperatures, snow storms are no worse, it’s just as hilly in the North West too, I’ve spent almost the whole winter running up and down through the North West and it’s no big deal at all, it gets the tea towel holder a bit puckered at times, but it’s all in a day’s work up here, the proper ice road seasons they covered in the first few seasons is a little different , although it’s nowhere near as dangerous as they make it seem, most people that I’ve spoken to who have done it reckon it’s as boring as can be, they set the cruise and poodle across the lake for hour after hour, no big deal, except for the fact that they’re on a frozen lake (which being a big girl’s blouse I would never do ) The winter roads in Manitoba and Ontario are where the real tough guys go, up there they wait for the ground to freeze over and basically go to places that are only accessible by plane the rest of the year, they are the real ■■■■■■■■ truckers 
Rant over, can you tell I’m packing in the Malboro
I’m aware of the hype and drama, the other day Lisa had to drive the haul road whilst eating a sandwich and that was extra to worry about.
I don’t suppose it’s a walk in the park but I’m sure they get used to it.
IRT deadliest roads was better and Ice Pilots on Quest is even better.
As mentioned it’s probably because we know how to build proper trucks in Europe. Cue Carryfast getting all hot under the collar about a 40 year old two stroke Kenworth with 35 gears and two drive axles…
switchlogic:
As mentioned it’s probably because we know how to build proper trucks in Europe. Cue Carryfast getting all hot under the collar about a 40 year old two stroke Kenworth with 35 gears and two drive axles…
If proper trucks are Autos that you point and press then you can keep them, I would have a manual anyday in poor weather and a constant mesh at that as you will maintain traction with the snow and ice much better for acceleration and de-acceleration. Autos in bad weather get stuck to easy look what happened in the UK with our propper trucks, you were all stuck on every hill.
iangam:
switchlogic:
As mentioned it’s probably because we know how to build proper trucks in Europe. Cue Carryfast getting all hot under the collar about a 40 year old two stroke Kenworth with 35 gears and two drive axles…
If proper trucks are Autos that you point and press then you can keep them, I would have a manual anyday in poor weather and a constant mesh at that as you will maintain traction with the snow and ice much better for acceleration and de-acceleration. Autos in bad weather get stuck to easy look what happened in the UK with our propper trucks, you were all stuck on every hill.
Carryfast is that you?
Speak for yourself, I didn’t get stuck at all thanks.
switchlogic:
iangam:
switchlogic:
As mentioned it’s probably because we know how to build proper trucks in Europe. Cue Carryfast getting all hot under the collar about a 40 year old two stroke Kenworth with 35 gears and two drive axles…
If proper trucks are Autos that you point and press then you can keep them, I would have a manual anyday in poor weather and a constant mesh at that as you will maintain traction with the snow and ice much better for acceleration and de-acceleration. Autos in bad weather get stuck to easy look what happened in the UK with our propper trucks, you were all stuck on every hill.
Carryfast is that you?
Speak for yourself, I didn’t get stuck at all thanks.
No getting stuck here either as I don’t have an auto.
iangam:
switchlogic:
iangam:
switchlogic:
As mentioned it’s probably because we know how to build proper trucks in Europe. Cue Carryfast getting all hot under the collar about a 40 year old two stroke Kenworth with 35 gears and two drive axles…
If proper trucks are Autos that you point and press then you can keep them, I would have a manual anyday in poor weather and a constant mesh at that as you will maintain traction with the snow and ice much better for acceleration and de-acceleration. Autos in bad weather get stuck to easy look what happened in the UK with our propper trucks, you were all stuck on every hill.
Carryfast is that you?
Speak for yourself, I didn’t get stuck at all thanks.
No getting stuck here either as I don’t have an auto.
Well I do and I wouldn’t swap it for anything
i drive a non syncro fuller 18 speed, we’re all human and we all miss gears, despite what newmercman says, nothing like missing the switch from 4th to 3rd coming up the toowoomba range in queensland up on 64 tonne in a cabover KW and have to do a poxy hillstart, thatll learn ya to try a LOT ■■■■ harder to not miss it next time
