so you come on a public forum post and expect people to agree?
get arsey when they don’t and then throw your teddy and dummy out the pram like a spoilt child?
then threaten to delete account/thread etc?
then expect answers which will help you?
just checking I have followed it all so far. but you are worried that despite having been hit at 40mph they think its a missed pin?
Still not deleted his account.
As you’ve obviously calmed down a bit now I’ll say what I think.
A missed pin event would not cause the type of damage which you are describing, no matter how hard it was there would only be some damage where the fridge comes into contact with rear cab panel.
A rear shunt at 40mph would cause damage to rear of trailer, the extent of damage would depend on body type of trailer, a container would probably show minimal damage whereas a curtainsider would be a lot worse as the body would move forwards.
As you can see from the video below a rear shunt would cause the tyres to lose their grip of the road and the whole lot would be shunted forward youtube.com/watch?v=FOfav_tQHpY
I find it very hard to believe that the damage you describe was caused by either a rear shunt or a missed pin which is why I believe something else has happened. A 5th wheel has a lot of bolts holding it to the chassis and if they are all tight then I really can’t see them getting bent neither can I see the chassis getting twisted or the drivers seat being broken, are you sure one of the drivers hasn’t driven it off a cliff 
I was involved in a rear end shunt years ago at 48mph on icy road, cab suffered extensive frontal damage but not enough to write it off, I suffered a cut finger and slightly bruised knee and trailer I hit only suffered dented rear doors and broken rear lights.
Please remember for future reference that once you start insulting others on here you will not get the sort of answers you were looking for in the first place.
Wing-nut. A nut which can be turned by hand,negating the need for a spanner or other tool.
Also,an intelligent man capable of excellent posts.
Now it’s a bit clearer, ( a more thought out first post would have saved a lot of grief ),I will make my 2nd. attempt at a reply.
Boss has decided,wether just his opinion or on advice of insurance experts, that the damage to the rear of the cab is unconnected with the accident, and believes,or has been advised ,that the damage to the cab was caused by one of the 4 drivers who use the truck missing the pin.
He wants a meeting to discuss this with the 4 drivers.
There seems little point in you trying to gather evidence that the damage could have been caused in the crash,he has made his mind up.
So, if I were you I would simply say " I can only speak for myself boss, but after doing my daily check I have never seen any damage to the rear of the cab, also I can assure you I have never missed the pin ,can I go now please ? "
Regards. John.
eagerbeaver:
Wing-nut. A nut which can be turned by hand,negating the need for a spanner or other tool.
or a nut with ginormous ears
eagerbeaver:
Also,an intelligent man capable of excellent posts.
I wouldn’t go that far, must be talking about someone else
eagerbeaver:
Still not deleted his account.
And he won’t, there is no option to delete an account.
He also can’t delete the thread.
A good reminder from our respected mod,to think before you post.
Im off now to erm…‘check’ my previous posts lol.
You are looking for evidence on the internet relevant to your description of the incident. The You Tube clip Wing Nut has posted shows what happens to a vehicle that has been rear ended at speed. Watch the video carefully looking at the stationary lorry’s cab. You will see that it jerks backwards, most noticeably at the top. In the case of a close coupled fridge parked in a straight line, this will have resulted in damage near the top of the cab and to the front of the fridge. There will also be other damage lower down. Show this video to whoever doubts that the rear of the cab can be damaged by the accident.
It appears from reading through the thread (and not contradicted by the OP) that after the accident the vehicle was driven to unload the trailer. If the damage was as described and included a broken driver’s seat and “bent” fifth wheel bolts, along with trailer chassis damage and suspected unit chassis damage, then whoever made the decision that the vehicle was safe to drive in that state doesn’t just deserve to be sacked - he should be shot.
40 years ago where I worked a Ford D series 28 ton artic was rear ended by a mini pickup. The mini was written off, but its driver walked away. The D series suffered sufficient damage to the fifth wheel to prevent it continuing.
If the trailer in question has not been written off and is now in use, I would certainly want to see evidence that its kingpin had been renewed.
It appears from reading through the thread (and not contradicted by the OP) that after the accident the vehicle was driven to unload the trailer. If the damage was as described and included a broken driver’s seat and “bent” fifth wheel bolts, along with trailer chassis damage and suspected unit chassis damage, then whoever made the decision that the vehicle was safe to drive in that state doesn’t just deserve to be sacked - he should be shot.
Cant see how the fuzz or the man from DVSA would allow this to be driven anywhere
If the trailer in question has not been written off and is now in use, I would certainly want to see evidence that its kingpin had been renewed.
Could argue the fact if the trailer has been involved in an accident then it should be having a new MOT once all the repairs are carried out to confirm its road legal
cav551:
It appears from reading through the thread (and not contradicted by the OP) that after the accident the vehicle was driven to unload the trailer. If the damage was as described and included a broken driver’s seat and “bent” fifth wheel bolts, along with trailer chassis damage and suspected unit chassis damage, then whoever made the decision that the vehicle was safe to drive in that state doesn’t just deserve to be sacked - he should be shot.
Think I saw this mentioned a few pages by the OPs mate.
Could the OP confirm if this is true and they drove the vehicle to tip.
As no driver in their right mind would drive a vehicle in this condition I can only summise using occums razor and my gillette ladyshave MK3 that another incident happened we are not aware of due to a previously weekened vehicle and that the OP is trying to hide something.
Knowing insurance companies it would jeapordise the whole claim if they became aware the vehicle was used in its weekend state.
Course if its not true then we are back to square one trying to help the OP prove there was no missed pin incident.
Sorry if I have missed it but has the front of the trailer been I spected for top frontal damage also as a hard rear entry (spot the froidian slip) could push the front of the trailer down on the 5th wheel and then the fridge part hitting the top of the units rear panel and even side wind deflectors. The unit may also be bouncing about a bit after shuch a hard impact.
Any pictures available of the damaged unit and trailer.