ra dar:
graham schroeder:
get more eastern europeans over here they do a excellent job and cheap too
cpc i am told will be no problem they will do the modules in their own country
happy days
a EMPLOYER
afaik a driver must complete the dcpc in the country that there employed in your units must be in bits with all the smacks these lads do have 
,i reckon your another nolan/o leary operator pay your drivers less than the min wage by puting them on a daily rate and have them do 15hrs a day.
I think that driver are required to do the CPC in the country where they hold thier licence.
There used to be minimum wages boards for various industries, (not sure about truck drivers) but they were done away with, so market forces could decide wages. Great if your jobs are plentyfull then market forces drive wages up, but of course there is a other side that wages come down when more people are chasing jobs.
I don’t think a minimum wages bored will work, more administration and regulation for companies and very difficult to police in a such a fragmented industry. You best hope is that with driver leaving the industry for various reasons and fewer wanting to come in it drive wages up, but of course employers only put up with so much of that and trucks standing as they can’t fill seats before they’re off to Westminster begging to bring in cheap labour from overseas.
graham schroeder:
put um in cheap premium stralis units pay um £70 aday for 13 to15hrs £20 night out allowance dont pay parking lay bys will do um oh give um a accident free bonus of £25 a week just renewed contract due to my competitive rates driver cpc arent they eec drivers■■?
Whether you lot think it’s legal or not, it works for Owens of Llanelli, and I daresay a few more as well. 
use a name:
harry good point,what would the scenario be if your day rate was 70 for all hours worked?,would you have a claim for being paid less than the minimum wage?
Yes, if he pays £70 for a working day of 13 hours (let alone 15) then he is breaking the National Minimum Wage act 1998 (as amended) and he is therefore in breach of the Law- he is running bent.
I cannot believe that anybody could be so stupid as to post that on a public forum- it is equal to saying that you instruct your drivers to falsify tachograph records- and he is now guaranteed a knock on the door.
gnasty gnome:
Whether you lot think it’s legal or not, it works for Owens of Llanelli,
If this is true (and we have a few Owens’ drivers on here who will or will not confirm this), then Owens run bent as well. The National Minimum Wage Act 1998 is compulsary, not voluntary.
All you have to do is report them for it and they will be made to pay the National Minimum Wage.
money money money…if yer were paid £200 a day some would still want more…transport is the way it is if yers dont like it leave it… as for that fella running bent i would say theres not a driver on here thats not running bent every day and you know it…
Shouldn’t the forum be liable to inform the authorities over this. As if someone come on here with registered contact details saying they sacrifice virgins and behead hedgehogs then the forum owners would have a duty of care to pass that information on.
LASHHGV:
Shouldn’t the forum be liable to inform the authorities over this .
TruckNet isn’t liable to but we do not only have truck drivers here, we have HATOs, VOSA and other Law Enforcement officers who post here too but we also have many members who choose to read only, for whatever reason, and I’m sure they will be looking at Graham Schroeders post very carefully…
diggertony:
money money money…if yer were paid £200 a day some would still want more…transport is the way it is if yers dont like it leave it… as for that fella running bent i would say theres not a driver on here thats not running bent every day and you know it…
How much do you pay Tony?
i do not pay…but i am paid…am also happy with what i get…and get to drive a renault premium…no moans from me no matter what
OK, do you get paid the National Minimum Wage? Because you are legally entitled to be paid it. And if you do receive it, do you not think others should?
So every drive on here runs bent. I must confess I got an infringement this week for going oneminute over my 6 hours WTD. Half the drivers on here work for multiple nationals and I should know said firms are very hot on infringements so don’t talk wet. If I earned £200 a day you wodnt here a peep out of me. As is I often earn zero pounds and zero pence.
diggertony:
as for that fella running bent i would say theres not a driver on here thats not running bent every day and you know it…
Possibly you are talking about local conditions, rather than the industry in general. Certainly the VOSA team who took me for a vehicle check this morning didn’t any type of issue with my vehicle or records. The massive majority of us never run bent.
dustylfc:
since ive worked next to riggers , welders etc …and i no they all come under the blue book on sites which means there on 15 ph minimum i no hgv is not classed as a trade but with so many rules and now dcpc is there anyway we can lobby for our own because lets face it all company’s can afford to pay 10 ph surely seems that each month another job offer springs up offering just above minimum wage, we as drivers hold so much power but we never get a fair deal , when i speak to older drivers they talk about earniing more 20 years ago with less hassle , am probably flogging a dead horse, but there must be summit we can do
The way i see it is that people become welders or riggers because its good money, they’re not the sortof job you aspire to as a kid…“i wanna weld all day and join metal together it’ll be great”, or “i can’t wait to get shovin some steel up to the sky” !!! 
Driving lorries appears to be a job many people like to do, because its great driving a big truck, you’re your own boss (to a degree) and you get to see different places. I think the wages reflect the abundance of people willing to do the job.
diggertony:
money money money…if yer were paid £200 a day some would still want more…transport is the way it is if yers dont like it leave it… as for that fella running bent i would say theres not a driver on here thats not running bent every day and you know it…
Don’t tare other drivers with yourself. 
my wage per day is a 3 figure sum…so i reckon well above minimum wage…as for bent running. speeding.defects.break whilst working…everyone not guilty…
diggertony:
i do not pay…but i am paid…am also happy with what i get…and get to drive a renault premium…no moans from me no matter what
So, you would not moan if you were looking for another job and all you can see is employers like the poster on here exploiting the drivers, like he seems to be bragging about.? [zb] 
not every employer is doing that are they…the man himself probably isnt…but nobody forces anyone to work for these types of firms…like ive said if it dosent suit you dont do it…get a job doing something else…
Mike-C:
The way i see it is that people become welders or riggers because its good money, they’re not the sortof job you aspire to as a kid…“i wanna weld all day and join metal together it’ll be great”, or “i can’t wait to get shovin some steel up to the sky” !!!
Driving lorries appears to be a job many people like to do, because its great driving a big truck, you’re your own boss (to a degree) and you get to see different places. I think the wages reflect the abundance of people willing to do the job.
I know what you are saying Mike, but the fact is fewer kids are aspiring to be truck driver, maybe with so much travel these days, driving a truck to parts of Europe doesn’t seem that exciting when these kids have already been round Europe before they’ve left school.
Mike-C:
The way i see it is that people become welders or riggers because its good money, they’re not the sortof job you aspire to as a kid…“i wanna weld all day and join metal together it’ll be great”, or “i can’t wait to get shovin some steel up to the sky” !!!
Driving lorries appears to be a job many people like to do, because its great driving a big truck, you’re your own boss (to a degree) and you get to see different places. I think the wages reflect the abundance of people willing to do the job.
Yes, that’s fair comment, and I could earn far more rigging on jobs, when instead I drive the rig out to them, but their job is to sweat like horses whereas mine is to sit on my arse listening to CDs and looking at the scenery. I could earn more elsewhere, far more.
What Muckles says is right too, many of us started out through a sense of adventure and love of travel rather than an aspiration to earn as much as possible.
Not everybody is born to catch the 7.44 to Cannon Street
Harry Monk:
Mike-C:
The way i see it is that people become welders or riggers because its good money, they’re not the sortof job you aspire to as a kid…“i wanna weld all day and join metal together it’ll be great”, or “i can’t wait to get shovin some steel up to the sky” !!!
Driving lorries appears to be a job many people like to do, because its great driving a big truck, you’re your own boss (to a degree) and you get to see different places. I think the wages reflect the abundance of people willing to do the job.
Yes, that’s fair comment, and I could earn far more rigging on jobs, when instead I drive the rig out to them, but their job is to sweat like horses whereas mine is to sit on my arse listening to CDs and looking at the scenery. I could earn more elsewhere, far more.
What Muckles says is right too, many of us started out through a sense of adventure and love of travel rather than an aspiration to earn as much as possible.
Not everybody is born to catch the 7.44 to Cannon Street
all fair comments but it would be nice to have a fair wage structure am sure if we were on 10 ph sum drivers would still say they earn more but for me it would be a fair rate for a happy and flexible driver