the second quote in my post above comes from GV262, it seems to be talking about weekly rest in a cab to me
You’re quite correct Denis, the second post is saying that you can take a reduced weekly rest period (less than 45 hours but at least 24 hours) in a cab, provided you are away from base. This quote is from the ‘new’ drivers hours Regulation, 561/2006, which comes into force on 11th April this year. However, note that you cannot take a weekly rest period (45 hours) in a cab, wherever you are parked and you must take a full 45 if you had a reduced weekly rest the previous week.
My original post concerned the current drivers hours; 3820/85. They allow daily rest in a cab but not weekly. We’ve all been comitting offences for the last 20 years, although I cannot recall anybody ever getting done for it
geebee45:
You’re quite correct Denis, the second post is saying that you can take a reduced weekly rest period (less than 45 hours but at least 24 hours) in a cab, provided you are away from base. This quote is from the ‘new’ drivers hours Regulation, 561/2006, which comes into force on 11th April this year. However, note that you cannot take a weekly rest period (45 hours) in a cab, wherever you are parked and you must take a full 45 if you had a reduced weekly rest the previous week.
My original post concerned the current drivers hours; 3820/85. They allow daily rest in a cab but not weekly. We’ve all been comitting offences for the last 20 years, although I cannot recall anybody ever getting done for it
not being awkward, but where are you reading this from?
the Dec 2006 version of GV262 says
It doesn’t say you can take a 45 hour rest in a cab but it also doesn’t say you can’t either
not being awkward, but where are you reading this from?
Didn’t think you were Denis, I like a good discussion. the source I was quoting is the original legislation; 3820/85 in the case of the current rules and 561/2006 in the case of the ‘new’ rules;
Article 8.7 of EC 3820/85 says; The daily rest period may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it is fitted with a bunk and is stationary.
Whilst it is true that the Regulation doesn’t specifically say you cannot take weekly rest in a vehicle, it doesn’t say that you can. The fact that it mentions daily rest being taken in a vehicle leads to the conclusion that it should say that you can take weekly rest in a vehicle too.
The ‘new’ legislation was brought in to clarify the rules and definitions (OK attempt to ). In EC 561/2006 Article 8.8 deals with where rest may be taken, it says; 8. Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each driver and the vehicle is stationary.
In Summary; from April 11th you will, if you choose, be able to take daily and reduced weekly rest periods (away from base) in a vehicle with suitable sleeping fascilities for each driver.
not being awkward, but where are you reading this from?
Didn’t think you were Denis, I like a good discussion. the source I was quoting is the original legislation; 3820/85 in the case of the current rules and 561/2006 in the case of the ‘new’ rules;
fairy nuff, I’ve reread GV262 and, as it says in the first few pages, it is only a guide to the rules
Article 8.7 of EC 3820/85 says; The daily rest period may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it is fitted with a bunk and is stationary.
Whilst it is true that the Regulation doesn’t specifically say you cannot take weekly rest in a vehicle, it doesn’t say that you can. The fact that it mentions daily rest being taken in a vehicle leads to the conclusion that it should say that you can take weekly rest in a vehicle too.
so a lot of people have broken the rules since 1985
The ‘new’ legislation was brought in to clarify the rules and definitions (OK attempt to ). In EC 561/2006 Article 8.8 deals with where rest may be taken, it says; 8. Where a driver chooses to do this, daily rest periods and reduced weekly rest periods away from base may be taken in a vehicle, as long as it has suitable sleeping facilities for each driver and the vehicle is stationary.
In Summary; from April 11th you will, if you choose, be able to take daily and reduced weekly rest periods (away from base) in a vehicle with suitable sleeping fascilities for each driver.
well. it doesn’t effect me, ( you can count the number of nights out i do each year on one hand so I’m certainly not going to get weekended anywhere )
but if this is enforced to the letter of the law we are going to see some changes to the way haulage operates ( particularly some of the east europeans who seem to park up in m-way services for weeks )
