From uk creamery to eu creamery all the same then ? Just when you cross into eu tachogragh laws apply then ?
if your loading a tank in a creamery (or picking up a loaded tank )to take to another creamery your under tacho law . You are only exempt from EU tacho rules if you are the driver that goes on to the farm and lifts the milk from the farmers tank and takes it to the creamery.
If you go to Arla at Hatfield London,there is not much room to reverse on the bays,inches to spare,most drivers will guide you in,not sure why they built it like that,never rely on anyone to tell you they will do your vent pipes,many tanks have been crushed in,by thinking i thought he was doing it.
toby1234abc:
If you go to Arla at Hatfield London,there is not much room to reverse on the bays,inches to spare,most drivers will guide you in,not sure why they built it like that,never rely on anyone to tell you they will do your vent pipes,many tanks have been crushed in,by thinking i thought he was doing it.
You’re on about Oakthorpe Dairy. It was originally built for rigids, then some berk found out you could ‘just’ about fit an artic in there 
Never hit the barrier or another truck myself, but I’ve seen a few bangs, and some drivers get themselves into some horrible position 
It certainly sorts the men from the boys
Oh, and make sure the bay worker has put your cip pipe on properly, otherwise you could spend a good few hours down a&e…
Trust me, having someone run litmus paper across your eyeball is no fun
K5Project:
don’t think you would export Raw milk as your tacho exempt to get it to a place of pasteurising in a set time (think its 2 hours not sure don’t quote me)
how many times,you aren’t tacho exempt to haul bulk milk and 2hrs is b/s,most dairies want it delivered 11hrs from start of 1st collection and trans-shipment 
We run on domestic rules, so not quite tacho exempt.
Unless they mean that we don’t HAVE to use tacho’s, we can use log books
First artic job (having passed my test in March), backing in at Oakthorpe with a triple axle tanker and no rear steer. I thought most reverses were like that but so far the others have all been easier! Bays 2 and 3 are the ones I don’t like.
hgvcity.com/Regulations/Drivers_Hours2.htm
Exemptions are given to the EC drivers’ hours rules and, additionally, national governments may make additional exemptions.
The international and national exemptions under EC regulations are: Vehicles used for the carriage of goods where the maximum permissible weight of the vehicle, including any trailer or semi-trailer, does not exceed 3.5 tonnes.
Vehicles with a maximum authorised speed not exceeding 30 kilometres per hour.
Vehicles used by or under the control of the armed services, civil defence, fire services, and forces responsible for maintaining public order.
Vehicles used in connection with sewerage, flood protections, water, gas and electricity services: highway maintenance and control: refuse collections and disposal: telegraph and telephone services: carriage of postal Articles: radio and television broadcasting and the detection of radio or television transmitters or receivers.
Vehicles used in emergencies or rescue operations.
Specialised Vehicles used for medical purposes.
Vehicles transporting circus and fun-fair equipment.
Specialised breakdown Vehicles.
Vehicles undergoing road tests for technical development, repair or maintenance purposes, and new or rebuilt
Vehicles which have not yet been put into service.
Vehicles used for non-commercial carriage of goods for personal use.
Vehicles used for milk collection from farms and the return to farms of milk containers or milk products intended for animal feed.
National Exemptions under British Law
Vehicles used by agricultural, horticultural, forestry or fishery undertakings for carrying goods within a 50 kilometre radius of the place where the vehicle is normally based, including local administrative areas the centres of which are situated within that radius. (In the case of fishery undertakings the exemption applies only to the movement of fish from landing to first processing on land and of live fish between fish farms).
Vehicles used for carrying animal waste or carcasses which are not intended for human consumption.
Vehicles used for carrying live animals for farms to local markets and vice versa or from markets to local slaughterhouses
Vehicles used as shops at local markets or for door-to-door selling, or used for mobile banking, exchange or saving transactions, for worship, for the lending of books, records or cassettes, for cultural events or exhibitions, and specially fitted for such uses.
Vehicles with a maximum permissible weight of not more than 7.5 tonnes carrying material or equipment for the drivers’ use in the course of his work within a 50 kilometre radius of the place where the vehicle is normally based, provided that driving the Vehicles does not constitute the driver’s main activity.
Vehicles operating exclusively on islands not exceeding 2,300 square kilometres in area, which are not linked to the rest of Great Britain by a bridge, ford or tunnel open for use by motor Vehicles.
Vehicles with a gross vehicle weight (including batteries) of not more than 7.5 tonnes used for the carriage of goods and propelled by means of gas or electricity.
Vehicles used for driving instructions with a view to obtaining a driving licence, but excluding instructions on a journey connected with carrying a commercial load.
Vehicles operated by The Royal National Lifeboat Institution.
Vehicles manufactured before 1st January 1947.
Vehicles propelled by steam.
Vehicles used by Health authorities as ambulances or to carry staff, patients, medical supplies or equipment.
Vehicles used by Local Authority social service departments to provide services for the elderly or physically or mentally handicapped.
Vehicles used by HM Coastguard and Lighthouse services.
Vehicles used by harbour or airport authorities if the vehicle remain wholly within the confined of ports or airports.
Vehicles used by British Rail and other transport authorities when engaged in maintaining railways.
Vehicles used by British Waterways Board when engaged in maintaining navigable waterways.
Tractors used exclusively for agricultural and forestry work.
Certain Vehicles operating under STGO. (Drivers of Vehicles operating under STGO Regulations are exempted from the provisions of EC Drivers Hours Regulations (3820/85) and Recording Equipment Regulations (3821/85).
kvin:
First artic job (having passed my test in March), backing in at Oakthorpe with a triple axle tanker and no rear steer. I thought most reverses were like that but so far the others have all been easier! Bays 2 and 3 are the ones I don’t like.
Yeah, bay 2 is the ■■■■■■■■ when there’s trucks in bays 1 & 3
beefy4605:
(list of derogations, ending…)
Certain Vehicles operating under STGO. (Drivers of Vehicles operating under STGO Regulations are exempted from the provisions of EC Drivers Hours Regulations (3820/85) and Recording Equipment Regulations (3821/85).
That list is out of date - Regulation 3820/85 has been repealed and replaced by Regulation 2006/561.
Article 13(l) of Regulation 2006/561 allows for “vehicles used for milk collection from farms and the return to farms of milk containers or milk products intended for animal feed” to be exempted from the EU Drivers’ Hours regulations at the discretion of the Member State concerned. The UK does grant this particular derogation (see GV0262 - 03, page 16), so these collections and deliveries are on domestic hours.
As has already been said, this derogation does not cover transporting milk between creameries or similar - that work is under EU drivers’ hours and the tachograph must be used.
djw:
beefy4605:
(list of derogations, ending…)
Certain Vehicles operating under STGO. (Drivers of Vehicles operating under STGO Regulations are exempted from the provisions of EC Drivers Hours Regulations (3820/85) and Recording Equipment Regulations (3821/85).That list is out of date - Regulation 3820/85 has been repealed and replaced by Regulation 2006/561.
Article 13(l) of Regulation 2006/561 allows for “vehicles used for milk collection from farms and the return to farms of milk containers or milk products intended for animal feed” to be exempted from the EU Drivers’ Hours regulations at the discretion of the Member State concerned. The UK does grant this particular derogation (see GV0262 - 03, page 16), so these collections and deliveries are on domestic hours.
As has already been said, this derogation does not cover transporting milk between creameries or similar - that work is under EU drivers’ hours and the tachograph must be used.
Which is what I said - thanks for backing it up . 
YES i meant to say it was Oakthorpe with the tight as a nuns chuff bays,what an idiot who thought of that,the smell of acrid clutch burn out odours awaits you on arrival,free to use the canteen,very cheap too.