£1000 for this numpty. At least the police actually caught one of them.
Personally I hope they bust a few of the truckers that persistently block the middle lane when they don’t have the power to overtake. Not talking about the odd errantly mistimed or miscalculated one, but the brainless plonkers that cause bedlam for mile after mile by doing this endlessly.
If you can’t make the move, drop back in till you can.
The thing that surprises me most about this is the fact that there was a POLICE CAR on the motorway
Its about time they started cracking down on things like this. The amount of people who sit at 45 in the middle lane in a 60 or 70 limit is amazing. And they are convinced they are in the right simply because they are under the speed limit
The-Snowman:
Its about time they started cracking down on things like this. The amount of people who sit at 45 in the middle lane in a 60 or 70 limit is amazing. And they are convinced they are in the right simply because they are under the speed limit
I’m always amused by the dirty look you get when you undertake one of them.
Then they either look at you as if you’ve just killed a child, they speed up and match your speed or they just carry on in the middle lane totally oblivious.
I’ve no problem if people want to do 50mph on a motorway (although I think 50 should be a legal minimum speed) but if you’re going to, keep in lane 1!
Hammy747:
The-Snowman:
Its about time they started cracking down on things like this. The amount of people who sit at 45 in the middle lane in a 60 or 70 limit is amazing. And they are convinced they are in the right simply because they are under the speed limitI’m always amused by the dirty look you get when you undertake one of them.
Then they either look at you as if you’ve just killed a child, they speed up and match your speed or they just carry on in the middle lane totally oblivious.
I’ve no problem if people want to do 50mph on a motorway (although I think 50 should be a legal minimum speed) but if you’re going to, keep in lane 1!
Or indeed trucks who refuse to use the running hard shoulder on ‘smart’ sections. Just as guilty
They should do you for that in the roadwork sections. There is quite an alarming number of numpties that sit in lane 2 at 40.
LIBERTY_GUY:
Personally I hope they bust a few of the truckers that persistently block the middle lane when they don’t have the power to overtake. Not talking about the odd errantly mistimed or miscalculated one, but the brainless plonkers that cause bedlam for mile after mile by doing this endlessly.If you can’t make the move, drop back in till you can.
As per normal we are our own worst enemies. How many times do drivers come on here and comment about other drivers struggling to overtake them? When you are being overtaken by another truck, with flick off the cruise control or life of the accelerator for a few seconds. Job done and they are past you with holding up other traffic for miles on end.
On the basis of devil’s advocate the law is just as bad as,if not worse than,the so called issue of lane hogging. 
In all cases both trucks ( especially trucks which are physically speed limited ) and cars we’ve got a situation of multi lane roads which are ‘supposed’ to be used on the basis of left lane only ‘unless overtaking’.
‘However’ within that we’ve also got the situation of the same speed limit applying in all lanes. In which case at best that causes a situation of extremely long drawn out overtakes which can ‘look’ like ‘lane hogging’ but actually isn’t.When the actual cause is that the speed differentials between the lanes are too low.
In view of which maybe the law can explain the bs contradiction between the reference to so called ‘capacity’ as opposed to the rule left lane only ‘unless overtaking’.Being that both are mutually exclusive.
The situation having long since been sorted in the States with just like here an idiotic excessively low limits speed regime on roads designed for much higher speeds.The logical conclusion being that they’ve traded the idea of speed for ‘capacity’ and in which case there is/can be no such ‘offence’ as ‘lane hogging’ and the rule is overtake either side assuming that any lane is running at less than the speed limit. 
Carryfast:
On the basis of devil’s advocate the law is just as bad as,if not worse than,the so called issue of lane hogging.In all cases both trucks ( especially trucks which are physically speed limited ) and cars we’ve got a situation of multi lane roads which are ‘supposed’ to be used on the basis of left lane only ‘unless overtaking’.
‘However’ within that we’ve also got the situation of the same speed limit applying in all lanes.
In view of which maybe the law can explain the bs contradiction between the reference to so called ‘capacity’ as opposed to the rule left lane only ‘unless overtaking’.Being that both are mutually exclusive.
The situation having long since been sorted in the States with just like here an idiotic excessively low limits speed regime on roads designed for much higher speeds.The logical conclusion being that they’ve traded the idea of speed for ‘capacity’ and in which case there is/can be no such ‘offence’ as ‘lane hogging’ and the rule is overtake either side assuming that any lane is running at less than the speed limit.
Thats just called madness, go speak to any of the drivers that have gone to drive in the States, they will tell you people drive out there with a deathwish.
madmackem:
LIBERTY_GUY:
Personally I hope they bust a few of the truckers that persistently block the middle lane when they don’t have the power to overtake. Not talking about the odd errantly mistimed or miscalculated one, but the brainless plonkers that cause bedlam for mile after mile by doing this endlessly.If you can’t make the move, drop back in till you can.
As per normal we are our own worst enemies. How many times do drivers come on here and comment about other drivers struggling to overtake them? When you are being overtaken by another truck, with flick off the cruise control or life of the accelerator for a few seconds. Job done and they are past you with holding up other traffic for miles on end.
Which of course misses the fact that by slowing down you then cause yet more traffic to slow down behind in that lane.Which at worst then causes yet more bunching and ripple effect.Or at best means that yet more relatively slow vehicles in that lane try to overtake you which means slowing down even more etc etc etc etc.
madmackem:
LIBERTY_GUY:
Personally I hope they bust a few of the truckers that persistently block the middle lane when they don’t have the power to overtake. Not talking about the odd errantly mistimed or miscalculated one, but the brainless plonkers that cause bedlam for mile after mile by doing this endlessly.If you can’t make the move, drop back in till you can.
As per normal we are our own worst enemies. How many times do drivers come on here and comment about other drivers struggling to overtake them? When you are being overtaken by another truck, with flick off the cruise control or life of the accelerator for a few seconds. Job done and they are past you with holding up other traffic for miles on end.
I am on about the brainless bell ends that are trying to overtake a line of trucks. They struggle to get past the first one, so what do they do when clear, drop back themselves into lane one into the gap the driver has left, or continue to block the middle lane? The latter ones are the ones that should also get busted. The roads aren’t just for trucks.
Radar19:
Carryfast:
On the basis of devil’s advocate the law is just as bad as,if not worse than,the so called issue of lane hogging.In all cases both trucks ( especially trucks which are physically speed limited ) and cars we’ve got a situation of multi lane roads which are ‘supposed’ to be used on the basis of left lane only ‘unless overtaking’.
‘However’ within that we’ve also got the situation of the same speed limit applying in all lanes.
In view of which maybe the law can explain the bs contradiction between the reference to so called ‘capacity’ as opposed to the rule left lane only ‘unless overtaking’.Being that both are mutually exclusive.
The situation having long since been sorted in the States with just like here an idiotic excessively low limits speed regime on roads designed for much higher speeds.The logical conclusion being that they’ve traded the idea of speed for ‘capacity’ and in which case there is/can be no such ‘offence’ as ‘lane hogging’ and the rule is overtake either side assuming that any lane is running at less than the speed limit.
Thats just called madness, go speak to any of the drivers that have gone to drive in the States, they will tell you people drive out there with a deathwish.
Agreed it is madness but it’s the only logical conclusion to what has to happen when you change the definition of a motorway from being all about ‘speed’ to ‘capacity’.When the best combination would be the German type speed regime as it applies to cars and the American one as it applies to trucks.On that note madness doesn’t get much madder than an environment of left lane only unless overtaking with a speed regime to match for cars but the usual strictly limited 90 kmh limit for trucks. The logical conclusion being that they’ve ( rightly ) had to ban trucks from overtaking in many places.
The worst of the worst, and those which deserve nothing other than the utmost contempt, are the ‘drivers’ who engage in drawn out overtakes on two-lane dual carriageways and motorways. It should be licence revoked on the spot for them.
LIBERTY_GUY:
I am on about the brainless bell ends that are trying to overtake a line of trucks. They struggle to get past the first one, so what do they do when clear, drop back themselves into lane one into the gap the driver has left, or continue to block the middle lane? The latter ones are the ones that should also get busted. The roads aren’t just for trucks.
The fact is they aren’t struggling because they’ve run out of power they are struggling because they are running at the maximum speed allowed.Assuming a truck running at 90 kmh trying to overtake one running at 85 kmh that isn’t the overtaking driver’s fault.While as I’ve said backing off to allow for the stupid speed regime just creates yet more congestion behind.Which leaves one of two options.Either ban trucks from over taking or at least let them run at the same limit as cars.
Which still leaves the question of the contradiction between speed v ‘capacity’.IE a rule based on left lane unless overtaking is totally mutually exclusive with the latter being that the latter by definition means use lanes 2/3 etc if/when lane 1/2 has more traffic,not because that traffic is necessarily running slower.
Olog Hai:
The worst of the worst, and those which deserve nothing other than the utmost contempt, are the ‘drivers’ who engage in drawn out overtakes on two-lane dual carriageways and motorways. It should be licence revoked on the spot for them.
So feel free free to explain how a truck limited to 90 kmh overtaking one running at 85 kmh can possibly mean anything other than a long ‘drawn out’ overtake.Or for that matter a car running at a strictly limited 70 mph overtaking another running at 67 mph.
Meanwhile ‘if’ it is 'supposed to be an issue of capacity in a strictly limited speed regime then it obviously means use lanes 2/3 etc when lanes 1/2 etc are busy not because they are necessarily running at less than the limit.
Carryfast:
Olog Hai:
The worst of the worst, and those which deserve nothing other than the utmost contempt, are the ‘drivers’ who engage in drawn out overtakes on two-lane dual carriageways and motorways. It should be licence revoked on the spot for them.So feel free free to explain how a truck limited to 90 kmh overtaking one running at 85 kmh can possibly mean anything other than a long ‘drawn out’ overtake.Or for that matter a car running at a strictly limited 70 mph overtaking another running at 67 mph.
Feel free to explain where I suggested a 5km/h difference. It was obvious that I meant the 0.1mph idiots, but you chose to ignore that in one of your trademark, crackpot attempts to prove that you somehow know better than everyone else. Get back to your padded cell you gibbering idiot.
Carryfast:
LIBERTY_GUY:
I am on about the brainless bell ends that are trying to overtake a line of trucks. They struggle to get past the first one, so what do they do when clear, drop back themselves into lane one into the gap the driver has left, or continue to block the middle lane? The latter ones are the ones that should also get busted. The roads aren’t just for trucks.**The fact is they aren’t struggling because they’ve run out of power they are struggling because they are running at the maximum speed allowed.**Assuming a truck running at 90 kmh trying to overtake one running at 85 kmh that isn’t the overtaking driver’s fault.While as I’ve said backing off to allow for the stupid speed regime just creates yet more congestion behind.Which leaves one of two options.Either ban trucks from over taking or at least let them run at the same limit as cars.
Which still leaves the question of the contradiction between speed v ‘capacity’.IE a rule based on left lane unless overtaking is totally mutually exclusive with the latter being that the latter by definition means use lanes 2/3 etc if/when lane 1/2 has more traffic,not because that traffic is necessarily running slower.
Yep but that not the case where the bozos decided to overtake on inclines where they fully laden and know full well they are going to run out of power and end up being a pain in the ■■■■ to everyone behind them. If drivers constantly ride on the limiter, then where is their reserve for safe overtaking? It is poor planning and poor driving by the overtaking driver that creates the situation.
Olog Hai:
Carryfast:
Olog Hai:
The worst of the worst, and those which deserve nothing other than the utmost contempt, are the ‘drivers’ who engage in drawn out overtakes on two-lane dual carriageways and motorways. It should be licence revoked on the spot for them.So feel free free to explain how a truck limited to 90 kmh overtaking one running at 85 kmh can possibly mean anything other than a long ‘drawn out’ overtake.Or for that matter a car running at a strictly limited 70 mph overtaking another running at 67 mph.
Feel free to explain where I suggested a 5km/h difference. It was obvious that I meant the 0.1mph difference idiots, but you chose to ignore that in one of your trademark, crackpot attempts to prove that you somehow know better than everyone else. Get back to your padded cell you gibbering idiot.
You’re obviously one of the lot who just ‘thinks’ that a 5 kmh differential is the same thing as 0.1 mph because that’s what it ‘looks’ like if you’re stuck behind it.While a 0.1 mph differential obviously isn’t going to fit the description of a ‘drawn out’ over take.
LIBERTY_GUY:
Carryfast:
**The fact is they aren’t struggling because they’ve run out of power they are struggling because they are running at the maximum speed allowed.**Assuming a truck running at 90 kmh trying to overtake one running at 85 kmh that isn’t the overtaking driver’s fault.While as I’ve said backing off to allow for the stupid speed regime just creates yet more congestion behind.Which leaves one of two options.Either ban trucks from over taking or at least let them run at the same limit as cars.Which still leaves the question of the contradiction between speed v ‘capacity’.IE a rule based on left lane unless overtaking is totally mutually exclusive with the latter being that the latter by definition means use lanes 2/3 etc if/when lane 1/2 has more traffic,not because that traffic is necessarily running slower.
Yep but that not the case where the bozos decided to overtake on inclines where they fully laden and know full well they are going to run out of power and end up being a pain in the ■■■■ to everyone behind them. If drivers constantly ride on the limiter, then where is their reserve for safe overtaking? It is poor planning and poor driving by the overtaking driver that creates the situation.
Which then leaves the fact that not running on the limiter means running slower therefore more need for traffic to use the ‘over taking’ lanes than would otherwise be the case.Which includes the issue of being baulked on the approach to inclines with a heavy wagon.In this case the inconsiderate ones are those running at excessively low speeds thereby creating an overtaking situation which otherwise wouldn’t be needed.