Melton Mowbray

Rest in paece to those people whom lost their lives on the A607 it make s you pause for thought the responsibility that driving on our roads has

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Lorry driver arrested after six killed in Melton Mowbray road crash
Published by Jon Land for 24dash.com in Communities
Thursday 10th July 2008 - 8:51am
Lorry driver arrested after killed in Melton Mowbray road crash
Six people have died in a crash between a car and lorry on the A607 near Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire Police said today.
The lorry driver, a 48-year-old man from Melton Mowbray, has been arrested in connection with the incident.
The six people who died were all travelling in the car, a black Ford Mondeo. Police say they are all believed to be young but their ages are not yet known.
Police were called to the scene a mile south of Melton Mowbray town centre at 1.54am today.
The car is believed to have been travelling towards Leicester.
A section of the A607 is closed while a police investigation is carried out, and it is expected to be closed for most of today.
Diversions are in place but police have warned motorists to expect delays.
Police set up a cordon either side of the collision scene, causing delays to peak-hour traffic on the Leicester to Melton-Mowbray route.
The crash happened in countryside near the villages of Kirby Bellars and Eye Kettleby.
Police said a 48-year-old man arrested in connection with the incident was later released without further action. He was taken to the Leicester Royal Infirmary for treatment.
It is understood that the formal identification of the deceased is unlikely to take place today.

The six people who died were all travelling in the car, a black Ford Mondeo.

6 in one car :exclamation: - Is the mondeo a 5 seater :question: :question:

:cry: Very sad loss for all the parents/loved ones involved and the no-doubt very shocked trucker , my deepest sympathies for all :cry:

BUT ( i`m putting on my tin helmet and flak jacket )

:open_mouth: 6 young people in the same car - theres a surprise :open_mouth: **When are the powers that be going to do something about young or newly qualified drivers carrying loads of passengers** :?: Its happened a couple of times by me, a new / inexperienced driver, usually the worst for drink / drugs, excessive speed, showing off to a packed out car of friends…BANG…needless lives lost and countless more ruined forever :exclamation:

:imp: Government needs to do something :exclamation:

ROG:
Police said a 48-year-old man arrested in connection with the incident was later released without further action. He was taken to the Leicester Royal Infirmary for treatment.

Sums up what most were thinking in my opinion :confused: :confused:

The Drivers are always arrested initially, but to be released “without further action” so soon afterwards shows their was plenty of evidence that cleared the Lorry Driver of blame.

It’s time youngsters were treat the same way as Australia

No Passengers until they have x amount of experience, no driving after x time of day etc etc etc

Davey Driver:

ROG:
Police said a 48-year-old man arrested in connection with the incident was later released without further action. He was taken to the Leicester Royal Infirmary for treatment.

Sums up what most were thinking in my opinion :confused: :confused:

The Drivers are always arrested initially, but to be released “without further action” so soon afterwards shows their was plenty of evidence that cleared the Lorry Driver of blame.

It’s time youngsters were treat the same way as Australia

No Passengers until they have x amount of experience, no driving after x time of day etc etc etc

As said, normal action taken the police. De-arrested if no obvious evidence to say that a driver was definitely the cause - not because he was a truck driver - it would be the same for a car driver in the same situation.

I have met a few drivers from OZ and I must admit, their system for those starting out on their driving careers, the system seems to be better than ours

We are not short of fatal accidents involving young drivers round here,the A500 is notorious.It’s always the same,a young car driver,hot hatch spells disaster.The families are always quick to respond with the statement that,“He was not a boy racer”.Maybe not,but the actions of the few who we see most days of the week are reason to withhold judgement until an official invetigation report is made public.
Wherever the cause lies,it’s a sad loss of life,condolences to all involved.

:open_mouth: Yep, usual story round here…little Jonny, never done drugs, doesnt D&D, careful driver Blah Blah Blah…Come the inquest…Over the Limit, High as a Kite and Speeding and they still continue to say the other driver, usually the trucker was to blame…the only people to ever benefit are the Florists selling the Pretty Distractions that lead to more accidents :imp:

were you never young sharky, have you never done anything you shouldn’t?

biggusdickusgb:
were you never young sharky, have you never done anything you shouldn’t?

:blush: Yeah certainly did, and got a bloody good clout from the old man when I did aswell ( the old girl got in on the act from time to time too ):!:

:frowning: Youre missing the point though. I have the deepest of sympathies for the bereaved and the truckdriver, THIS SORT OF INCIDENT IS HAPPENING TOO OFTEN and in EVERY SINGLE CASE its for the reasons I stated. It just didnt happen in the 70s/80s when I grew up, why I dont really know. What I do Know is that the Government etc, have it it their power do do something about it and are still doing NOTHING :imp:

Rant over.

" I do not agree with what you have to say, but i`ll defend to the death your right to say it " Voltaire

" If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter " George Washington.

sharky the shredder:

biggusdickusgb:
were you never young sharky, have you never done anything you shouldn’t?

:blush: Yeah certainly did, and got a bloody good clout from the old man when I did aswell ( the old girl got in on the act from time to time too ):!:

:frowning: Youre missing the point though. I have the deepest of sympathies for the bereaved and the truckdriver, THIS SORT OF INCIDENT IS HAPPENING TOO OFTEN and in EVERY SINGLE CASE its for the reasons I stated. It just didnt happen in the 70s/80s when I grew up, why I dont really know. What I do Know is that the Government etc, have it it their power do do something about it and are still doing NOTHING :imp:

Rant over.

" I do not agree with what you have to say, but i`ll defend to the death your right to say it " Voltaire

" If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter " George Washington.

i’m not missing any point, i didn’t for one minute think you wouldn’t have any sympathies for all concerned.
i don’t know where you were brought up, but i can assure you these accidents happened then.
at least they did when i was a lad in bolton in the 70’s, and i can show you the graves or the plaques at bolton crematorium to prove it.
do you not remember when they put the bike license up from 16 to 17 in the early seventies because kids were killing themselves on bikes, so its not a new thing is it?
what can the government do? the driver of this car was 23, so he could have had a full license for 6 years, hardly a new driver is he?
i fully agree with your two quotes as well, the point i was making was it seemed like an “it wont affect me, so lets stop the kids” type of statement, when they’re only doing what we did.

the driver of this car was 23, so he could have had a full license for 6 years, hardly a new driver is he?

reported on local news - he had a wife and kids at home…

biggusdickusgb:
i’m not missing any point, i didn’t for one minute think you wouldn’t have any sympathies for all concerned.
i don’t know where you were brought up, but i can assure you these accidents happened then.
at least they did when i was a lad in bolton in the 70’s, and i can show you the graves or the plaques at bolton crematorium to prove it.
do you not remember when they put the bike license up from 16 to 17 in the early seventies because kids were killing themselves on bikes, so its not a new thing is it?
what can the government do? the driver of this car was 23, so he could have had a full license for 6 years, hardly a new driver is he?
i fully agree with your two quotes as well, the point i was making was it seemed like an “it wont affect me, so lets stop the kids” type of statement, when they’re only doing what we did.

Now im off shift again I can reply - just incase anyone was thinking id sloped off to a dark corner somewhere :exclamation:

:cry: As ive previously said - deepest sympathies to all concerned. Sorry Bigus if youve been offended by anything i`ve said. :blush:

NOW, far from having an " it wont affect me attitude, so lets stop the kids " outlook, you couldnt be further from the truth.....ive got a teenage daughter who will shortly be in the " i`m going out with little jonny in his car category " No-more miss sweetness and light, fine not got a problem there, what I would like however is some legislation where-by young / inexperienced drivers are limited to what they can drive and how.

We are seeing on average 1 a week ,of these same kinds of incident.

We didnt see in the 70s/80s, 4 ,5 or even 6 deaths of youngsters in a single crash. Yes kids died, but usually it was on FS1Es not in cars, because the kids couldnt afford them or the vast quantities of alchohol that they consume on a Thurs / Fri / Sat / Sun / Mon …everyday of the week by me, as for drugs well, only the odd joint where I grew up :open_mouth: Kids did`nt do the same junk they do now…

As for the 23 yr old with 6 years experience, yes he might have had a licence for 6 years, but so has my nephew and since the day he passed his test hes been at college / university / work and hasnt driven a single day, but tomorrow he could hire a top of the range impreza ( example only ) stick 5 of his mates in it, go down the pub, get ■■■■■■ etc and go out and kill them all and anyone else who gets in the way :imp:

I dont know what the government can do any more than you do, I know it starts with the parents and with education, theres a certain amount of responsibility on everyones shoulders.

This forum is a sounding box for ideas and opinions, not everyone will agree with what gets said, alot of people will agree but be afraid to comment, me ive always stuck my head above the parapit and dont mind what people think…thats just me ......again sorry if ive offended anyone…was`nt my intension.

I just hope i`m never in the position that any of the currently bereaved are.

I lived in Melton on and off since 1986 (although I have been away for the last few years) and the road in question isn’t a good one.

Chances are a combination of the amount of bends & twists of that road plus a car that won’t have been handling ‘as normal’ due to the 6 passengers, not to mention possible tiredness (even if alcohol isn’t/wasn’t a factor) at 0200hrs in the morning, all contributed to the eventual outcome.

As for the comments I’ve seen somewhere here on TNET ref the driver of the HGV being on the wrong side of the road, quite likely he was trying to take evasive action if the Mondeo was coming towards him on the wrong side of the road (again, quite likely due to the bends). The fact that the Police have released the driver would indicate that he isn’t to blame.

IIRC there was a campaign for a Kirby Bellars bypass (about late 80’s, early 90’s I think) which would’ve cut out that bad stretch of road/bends. :unamused:

marcustandy:
As for the comments I’ve seen somewhere here on TNET ref the driver of the HGV being on the wrong side of the road, quite likely he was trying to take evasive action if the Mondeo was coming towards him on the wrong side of the road (again, quite likely due to the bends). The fact that the Police have released the driver would indicate that he isn’t to blame.

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