GMP Traffic tweeted a photo of the Audi TT model at 5.45am on Tuesday morning with the message: “This vehicle hogging the middle lane of the M62 J19-21 in the roadworks, causing mayhem for HGVs.”
Nice to see them dealing with this but a little dramatic isn’t it? Surely the HGVs would be in lane 1 and would continue in lane 1 right past the ignoramus?
Markk80:
the Audi
■■■■■■ by default…
Techincally, the LGV has undertaken a vehicle which is illegal, I reckon 3 months in the slammer, if not get the rope out!!
discoman:
Techincally, the LGV has undertaken a vehicle which is illegal, I reckon 3 months in the slammer, if not get the rope out!!
I thought that technically undertaking is where a vehicle deliberately swaps lanes to ‘undertake’ a slower moving vehicle. i.e. You go from lane 2 to lane 1 and back to lane 2
If you are already in lane 1 and there is simply a speed differential between you and lane 2 it isn’t actually undertaking as such.
I may be wrong
scanny77:
Nice to see them dealing with this but a little dramatic isn’t it? Surely the HGVs would be in lane 1 and would continue in lane 1 right past the ignoramus?
Just takes one lorry driver to hold back in lane 1 thinking should I, shouldn’t I? And then it turns into a shambles.
shep532:
discoman:
Techincally, the LGV has undertaken a vehicle which is illegal, I reckon 3 months in the slammer, if not get the rope out!!I may be wrong
You’re not.
Wish they’d been on the A1 through the roadworks last Sunday when I was going to Normanton. A green truck from a very well known ■■■■■■■■ outfit decided he would like to sit at 35mph all the way through the works from scotch corner to leeming bar. Wouldn’t have bothered me but the fact you can’t overtake if you are driving anything over 7.5t made it a tad annoying. Even more annoying was the fact that he floored it once clear of the works so I couldn’t catch him to make my feelings clear to him![emoji36] [emoji6]
discoman:
Techincally, the LGV has undertaken a vehicle which is illegal
No such law
The HC advises that passing/overtaking should be done on the right but that’s it
Passing on the left I not illegal and is not the same as undertaking. Whether its a line of cars or just one car obstructing lane 2, you are perfectly legal to pass the obstruction using lane 1. Just as well really since cars only seem to use that lane in Glasgow to go from slip road to lane 2 and back again 
damoq:
Wish they’d been on the A1 through the roadworks last Sunday when I was going to Normanton. A green truck from a very well known ■■■■■■■■ outfit decided he would like to sit at 35mph all the way through the works from scotch corner to leeming bar. Wouldn’t have bothered me but the fact you can’t overtake if you are driving anything over 7.5t made it a tad annoying. Even more annoying was the fact that he floored it once clear of the works so I couldn’t catch him to make my feelings clear to him![emoji36] [emoji6]
I’ve been stuck behind cars on that stretch at stupid o’clock in the morning, obviously tired driver. If there’s no cars behind me, and I’m certain it’s not a copper than I’ll wait til I see one of the average speed/yellow cameras, pull out, floor it and tuck back in.
Can’t see the logic in having to sit at 35-40 behind a pleb who needs to take a break and get out of the way. And when it’s that time of night/morning and there are no cars behind me I can’t see the problem with me using lane 2 for 300 yards.
scanny77:
Passing on the left I not illegal and is not the same as undertaking. Whether its a line of cars or just one car obstructing lane 2, you are perfectly legal to pass the obstruction using lane 1. Just as well really since cars only seem to use that lane in Glasgow to go from slip road to lane 2 and back again
+1
Hammy747:
damoq:
Wish they’d been on the A1 through the roadworks last Sunday when I was going to Normanton. A green truck from a very well known ■■■■■■■■ outfit decided he would like to sit at 35mph all the way through the works from scotch corner to leeming bar. Wouldn’t have bothered me but the fact you can’t overtake if you are driving anything over 7.5t made it a tad annoying. Even more annoying was the fact that he floored it once clear of the works so I couldn’t catch him to make my feelings clear to him![emoji36] [emoji6]I’ve been stuck behind cars on that stretch at stupid o’clock in the morning, obviously tired driver. If there’s no cars behind me, and I’m certain it’s not a copper than I’ll wait til I see one of the average speed/yellow cameras, pull out, floor it and tuck back in.
Can’t see the logic in having to sit at 35-40 behind a pleb who needs to take a break and get out of the way. And when it’s that time of night/morning and there are no cars behind me I can’t see the problem with me using lane 2 for 300 yards.
Same for me, I’m through those works most mornings, usually waiting for them to open around 0500, and your guaranteed to come across someone doing 40-45 mph. I just wait until I’m passed the lit up cameras before going past. It’s not unusual for our colleagues in green to stay well below the limit through them for some reason.
I did have one this morning though, a Range Rover, as I caught up to it, I was on the Tom cruise doing 50, they must have seen me approaching and pulled out into lane two, I went passed & he pulled back in behind me, stayed there for the rest of the works & shot past when through.
I’ve often thought while going through these long works, there’s about 40 miles worth between Newcastle & M1 j28, that, instead of making the outside lanes off limits to hgv they should make the inside lane off limits to anything not hgv, that might shake a few up.
BillyHunt:
I’ve often thought while going through these long works, there’s about 40 miles worth between Newcastle & M1 j28, that, instead of making the outside lanes off limits to hgv they should make the inside lane off limits to anything not hgv, that might shake a few up.
We all think that, when there is no roadworks the cars use lane 2+3 but once we hit a 50 zone they all want to be in lane 1+2.
Why wait till you are past the cameras, they measure average speed, it does amuse me the number of cars that brake for the camera. If you have exceeded average speed you will be nicked. That is why they are before and after services, so that you can’t speed either side then stop for at the services to average it out.
^^^ it is the lane 2 cameras, not average speed cams to which they are referring.
the maoster:
^^^ it is the lane 2 cameras, not average speed cams to which they are referring.
Yes this, I’m more concerned about it reading my plate and realizing it’s an HGV in lane 2 when it shouldn’t be.
the maoster:
^^^ it is the lane 2 cameras, not average speed cams to which they are referring.
Exactly, I’ve never managed to get through the full 12 miles doing fifty so the average is never a problem, getting passed Capt Slow is.