Come to work ,make manual entries and not press “confirm” or press wrong " other job" instead daily rest but tacho start count time between shift for “work” but not for rest.Yes i done printout and make explanation.MY question -are" Tachomaster "program will count infrigement or will count time between card out in one day and card in in another day for rest?.I had 12 hours between shift.
Andrejs:
Come to work ,make manual entries and not press “confirm” or press wrong " other job" instead daily rest but tacho start count time between shift for “work” but not for rest.Yes i done printout and make explanation.MY question -are" Tachomaster "program will count infrigement or will count time between card out in one day and card in in another day for rest?.I had 12 hours between shift.
Yes infringement , as T master is a computer that won’t use common sense .
It sounds like the vdu timed out on you .
Another reason to put your tacho on rest / break befor removing and inserting your card .
This does not mean you have finished work it just prevents what you have just have happen . Still do manual entries but if you mess up or the system times out you won’t get the infringement .
To be fair to Tachomaster if other work is recorded on the driver card there’s no reason why they should treat it as rest, so yes unless your TM notifies them about the mistake you will get an infringement.
nick2008:
Andrejs:
Come to work ,make manual entries and not press “confirm” or press wrong " other job" instead daily rest but tacho start count time between shift for “work” but not for rest.Yes i done printout and make explanation.MY question -are" Tachomaster "program will count infrigement or will count time between card out in one day and card in in another day for rest?.I had 12 hours between shift.Yes infringement , as T master is a computer that won’t use common sense .
It sounds like the vdu timed out on you .Another reason to put your tacho on rest / break befor removing and inserting your card .
This does not mean you have finished work it just prevents what you have just have happen . Still do manual entries but if you mess up or the system times out you won’t get the infringement .
Think you for advice .This was in Scania-tacho Stoneridge .I make this every day and about 6 month.Company where i work said must do manual entries ,But not sure all drivers do or not.And was no problem,but yesterday i think i make all, tacho ask press to confirm but my fingers press buttons not properly and i just see after 30 sec or more-time out…My shift was 36 hours with 14 hours driving time. 
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with it
Yep timed out .
So just put it on break or rest when taking the card out and inserting then continue doing your manual enterys as normal . All your doing is using the mode as a safe guard 
incase it happens again
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with it
I dont have problem with long shift.Normally my shift about 10-12 hours and just 3-5 shift per month with more longer for 13 hours.No night out in last 9 month.And near every day i come to work get key and next 30 minute leave depo.As well very very rarely i stay at depo more for 1 hours.
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with it
That is some shocking advice 
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with it
Are you call self for proffesional driver???How long you drive somethink??I happy with my money.i follow rulles all the time,had just 3 infrigement in last 9 month.But you advise -sorry but stupid.
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with it
Seriously?!
yes its an infringement i’m afraid, done the same a couple of weeks ago,logged on incorrectly, received my infringement worked a straight 30 hour shift, apparently its a £300 pound fine, just take a printout, and enter your details manually and keep in case you are stopped.
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with it
Can you do me a favour, PM me your real name and details. I need a couple of drivers at the moment, I need to know to avoid you with a barge pole.
Berkshireblue:
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with itCan you do me a favour, PM me your real name and details. I need a couple of drivers at the moment, I need to know to avoid you with a barge pole.
You’ll probably spot him a mile away.
Greasy hi-viz with Tesco or I love Eddy on the back
Walks with a limp.
Knuckles that reach the floor
Knows all the local gos fresh from the RDC waiting room
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with it
Dude wut? 10-15 minutes you can get away with but 3 hours? You’ve just turned a 15 hour day into an 18 hour day… Either ■■■■ it up and have a night out or stop working for Cowboys.
nick2008:
Berkshireblue:
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with itCan you do me a favour, PM me your real name and details. I need a couple of drivers at the moment, I need to know to avoid you with a barge pole.
You’ll probably spot him a mile away.
Greasy hi-viz with Tesco or I love Eddy on the back
Walks with a limp.
Knuckles that reach the floor
Knows all the local gos fresh from the RDC waiting room
- The opposite ,boots polished every day ,high viz washed every week ( or mid week if need be ) , 2 showers a day ,shave every day ,h- cut every 2 weeks .
- No,walk upright with chest pumped out .
3 . Can’t deny that ,calmed down as older ,but always enjoyed a tear up . - I assume you mean gossip
,haven’t been in a rdc for 2 1/2 yrs ,do shops ,tseco ,canteens full of women or stop in truck .
Radar19:
dozy:
Lot of drivers don’t bother with manual entries as early morning / tired it’s easy to make a mistake with mode or date etc ,just easier to bung it in and drive .
Also if you’ve had 2/3 hrs waiting for truck then then put manual entry in ,you’ve only then got 12/13 hrs to do your 15 hrs worth of work in ,so may end up on night out ,not good if your day / night driver as you’ll have no night out gear on you ,best to just bung it in when you get truck ,then you’ve got 15 hrs to do 15 hrs of work in .
Don’t loose money though ,bung any hours over 15 on a short day ,t.o should be fine with itDude wut? 10-15 minutes you can get away with but 3 hours? You’ve just turned a 15 hour day into an 18 hour day… Either ■■■■ it up and have a night out or stop working for Cowboys.
Radar ,you’ve got to be nieve to think you can’t get away with 3 hrs ,you’ve just got to be careful what you record,as I saystick the extra on a short day