Watched an article on the local news about this at lunchtime, and the graphics used showed the car that hit this poor man actually lost control in lane 3, maybe this was the reason the coraner record the verdict on unlawful killing as the driver was more than likely driving to fast for the weather conditions, I know the CPS have been asked to look again at bringing a prosecution for Death by dangerous driving,
I had the misfortune to need recovering from the M60 last year (under the arch of the viaduct at Stockport) HATO stayed with me 'til the wrecker had me hitched up but we still had a near miss as a car scattered the cones when he was rubbernecking. At the time the wrecker had all his lights and beacons working, my hazard flashers were on and the HATO 4x4’s beacons were working. The recce driver was busy taking my prop off when a cone ended up alongside him under my tractor.
duracell:
Watched an article on the local news about this at lunchtime, and the graphics used showed the car that hit this poor man actually lost control in lane 3, maybe this was the reason the coraner record the verdict on unlawful killing as the driver was more than likely driving to fast for the weather conditions, I know the CPS have been asked to look again at bringing a prosecution for Death by dangerous driving,
Maybe that’s down to witness evidence now in the public domain after the coroners inquest.
There is a good arguement for turning at the next junction. Rather than cutting across the hatch markings at the last minute even if they are not covered in snow or ice.
Just to keep you on your toes. I know of at least 2 cases of people being hit and 1 car being sideswiped all on the hardshoulder all in less than 24hrs in just a small area of the N/W.
TTX boy:
My recomendations would be for the HATO’s not to leave a recovery driver on his own to recovery a vehicle.
After all,all they had to do was sit in their nice warm 4x4 with their becons flashing to warn other motorists,but the HATO’s that attended this accident left him to it.
You need to read the facts a bit.
- Why would hato’s want to sit in their vehicle ? more than enough get hit, even with all the lights.
- How can you leave someone to it when they arrive well after you had already left ?
My recommendations would be, try and stay in your lane, be aware of what your doing and what’s happening around you, concentrate on what your doing not rubbernecking, reading, telephoning etc, and if they are take the licence of the [zb] 
newmercman:
dave19544:
Just come back from Florida and the ruling there is to move out one lane if recovery or police are on scene. Not certain that it’s law but certainly lots of posters telling you to move for safety. Simple and safeThat’s law in most states, it’s the way it should be everywhere, I remember back to my days of running around in Europe, everybody moved over for a motor on the hard shoulder, even the Italians and them [zb]ers are always in a hurry
i work on the hard shoulder nearly every day.it is extremely dangerous,the longer you are the there,the higher the risk.add to that bad weather and the risk factor is now incredibly high.
working on the o/s is a definete no-no.
everytime i attend a job i have to carry out a risk assessment,wherever it is.
part of that assessment means you have to stop and think what could happen,and act accordingly to reduce the risk.
newmercman:
dave19544:
Just come back from Florida and the ruling there is to move out one lane if recovery or police are on scene. Not certain that it’s law but certainly lots of posters telling you to move for safety. Simple and safeThat’s law in most states, it’s the way it should be everywhere, I remember back to my days of running around in Europe, everybody moved over for a motor on the hard shoulder, even the Italians and them [zb]ers are always in a hurry
I’ll move over if it’s clear enough, but tbh most of the time it just isn’t, I only run at 50mph though so I just move (drift) right over to the white line and drop my speed a few mph.
Me moving to the middle lane will cause disruption and tbh a lot of drivers would dive up the inside lane whilst calling me a ■■■■■■ if I did, so it’s just safer to move wide in the lane a drop a few clicks off.
If it’s clear or the outside lane is clear though, I’ll move into middle (sometimes encouraging people to check their right mirror and ■■■■■■■ shift) to give extra room.
waynedl:
newmercman:
dave19544:
Just come back from Florida and the ruling there is to move out one lane if recovery or police are on scene. Not certain that it’s law but certainly lots of posters telling you to move for safety. Simple and safeThat’s law in most states, it’s the way it should be everywhere, I remember back to my days of running around in Europe, everybody moved over for a motor on the hard shoulder, even the Italians and them [zb]ers are always in a hurry
I’ll move over if it’s clear enough, but tbh most of the time it just isn’t,
Me moving to the middle lane will cause disruption and tbh a lot of drivers would dive up the inside lane whilst calling me a [zb] if I did, so it’s just safer to move wide in the lane a drop a few clicks off.
^ That says everything about British logic these days and maybe explains why so many recovery drivers etc are worried about wether they’ll be going home at the end of a shift or not.All the risk assessments in the world won’t make up for flawed logic.