M6 shut northbound j39

Drove past at penrith two cars overturned one was being covered with a green sheet. not sounding to good. :open_mouth:

J40-41.

‘‘Parked on the hard shoulder’’ I wonder if she thought it was safe to stay in the car? Thoughts go to all involved. RIP

The other vehicle involved was driven by a 73 year old

No disrespect, but a lane open 2 hours after a fatal and fully reopened after 4 hrs is probably how it should be, not 8 or more like it sometimes is.

weeto:
No disrespect, but a lane open 2 hours after a fatal and fully reopened after 4 hrs is probably how it should be, not 8 or more like it sometimes is.

I agree. A couple hours should be more than enough to take all the data they need to ascertain what happened. No need for a major road to be closed for half a day. I sympathise with all families involved but it is a sad fact that everyone else’s world goes on as normal

nickb67:
J40-41.
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It was terrible weather on that stretch today bad viability in a truck never mind a car, a lot of people drive on motorways and don’t know the rules, i think car drivers should do a driver DCPC every 5 years like we have to who knows might save a few more lives. looks like the 73 year old is at fault due to the weather conditions his eye sight at his age, its a shame for both im sure he will be hurting. :

Haven’t read anything about the 73 year old having eyesight problems where did it say that.

As for opening the road it’s not up to your basic plod it falls to the hands of an accident investigation officer, he over rules anyone I’m lead to believe. Not all forces have one on call at the drop of a hat…

LASHHGV:
Haven’t read anything about the 73 year old having eyesight problems where did it say that.

Well by definition, he must have had some sort of perception problem otherwise he wouldn’t have hit her?

He could have spotted her earlier and moved into another lane before hand?

So your implying that just because he had a crash his eyesight was impaired at the time. That could be said of every person in every crash no matter what age.
The other poster said at 73 his eyesight was the cause. How can you know these things when nothing has been stated in official reports.
I know one way to open the motorway 5 mins after crash is to get a camera phone pic on here and CSI Trucknet will post the cause over the next 24 hours.

bazza123:

LASHHGV:
Haven’t read anything about the 73 year old having eyesight problems where did it say that.

Well by definition, he must have had some sort of perception problem otherwise he wouldn’t have hit her?

He could have spotted her earlier and moved into another lane before hand?

Does that statement include all the hgv drivers that have hit other vehicles on the hard shoulder?

The driver from Hampshire, did he drive to ■■■■■■■ with no rest breaks and fatique is a factor in the accident ?
I have known tourists to drive non stop off the ferry in Northern France then get all the way to a campsite in Southern France, because they are too tight to pay for a hotel for the night.
There was a family killed after coming back from a holiday, they were jet lagged and tired, they shared the driving, but after swapping, some were asleep in the car with no seatbelts on, rather than wake them up to tell them,they continued the journey with fatal results.The driver nodded off at the wheel.
I think it was from Gatwick back to Wales?

weeto:

bazza123:

LASHHGV:
Haven’t read anything about the 73 year old having eyesight problems where did it say that.

Well by definition, he must have had some sort of perception problem otherwise he wouldn’t have hit her?

He could have spotted her earlier and moved into another lane before hand?

Does that statement include all the hgv drivers that have hit other vehicles on the hard shoulder?

If your otherwise fit and healthy, (eg not passed out at the wheel) then surely the only reason you hit someone on the hard shoulder is because

A) you didn’t or couldn’t see them
B) you did see them but couldn’t perceive/process the danger

bazza123:

weeto:

bazza123:

LASHHGV:
Haven’t read anything about the 73 year old having eyesight problems where did it say that.

Well by definition, he must have had some sort of perception problem otherwise he wouldn’t have hit her?

He could have spotted her earlier and moved into another lane before hand?

Does that statement include all the hgv drivers that have hit other vehicles on the hard shoulder?

If your otherwise fit and healthy, (eg not passed out at the wheel) then surely the only reason you hit someone on the hard shoulder is because

A) you didn’t or couldn’t see them
B) you did see them but couldn’t perceive/process the danger

Obviously this assumes you aren’t passing about texting etc

Can see this one going 6/7 pages the Trucknet fireside lawyers are busy as usual, the poor old bugger being 73 is condemned straight away he is blind,drove all the way without a stop the assumtions go on and on. Eddie.

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