Not a good day going north today after a truck went over at 1am and spilled cola syrup and diesel,got on the M5 at Worcester at 9 this morning matrix said J16-19 2 hours delay,was still an hours delay at 2pm.
Fell asleep or a blowout on the steer axle I suppose.
Couldn’t believe my eyes on the M5 at about 2 this morning. Followed a wagon for about half a mile driving along the HS. 
I mean properly on the HS not just over the line by a wheel.
Closed at 1am…
Highways say open at 10 am then change that to 2pm then change it to 10pm…how the guck can they estimate 12 hours out from the initial re open time■■?
I’m sure they contributed to the delays today by given crap info out.
Chris they always do most days run thro j20 down to work at j10 every time “queue caution 40mph” from j20 no real traffic just HA making traffic for the fun of it I’m sure of it.all the way past j19 then again past Keele,and Sandbach of course nothing to do with MSA operators slipping HA a few quid to stop the traffic outside services to increase the money they take.
So all those people in lorries or cars just have to sit and wait for these asshats to mess around and sort it out?
My heart goes out to the unlucky ones with a little baby in the car with no food etc.
Absolute joke, what has happened to this country?
Only in England; Crisis > Drama
Last night here in France on the A1 Paris/Lille motorway just south of Lille , tragic accident just after midnight. Motorway was open at 04.00. I’ve only posted the link to show you the severity of the crash, obviously the report will be in French.
The double decker in the foreground had all the offside of his trailer wrecked. I came off the 556 this morning and slipped down onto the M6 Southbound and noticed it to my right as I joined the motorway.
One for TNET CSI ■■
xichrisxi:
Closed at 1am…
Highways say open at 10 am then change that to 2pm then change it to 10pm…how the guck can they estimate 12 hours out from the initial re open time■■?
I’m sure they contributed to the delays today by given crap info out.
i think thats because there the highways agency where the lunatics are running the asylum…same dung every single time…they might as well put a hi viz on a cabbage.
I’m no expert, but I just pulled can o’ LYLE’S GOLDEN SYRUP; out’ cupboard. Was the same stuff?.. 
The Japanese can repair a sink hole in a 4 lane highway repainted lines as well in 2 days
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If it’s proven that the driver is at fault, for whatever reason, then every vehicle or driver that has been inconvenienced by this incident, should put a claim in against the drivers insurers. I think there should be much more of this.
The cost to the economy must be enormous. But as has been said already, i feel for anyone who had a baby, or young child or other vulnerable passengers who were inconvenienced.
As I said, if he’s PROVEN to be at fault, throw the book at him.
If he’s not at fault, then someone else clearly is.
Find them, sue them, then hang them from the average speed camera gantries during rush hour on a Monday morning!!!
Typical of Trucknet, it’s all the fault of the HE.
The HE didn’t push the bloody wagon over, but they had to get a fork truck to the scene then unload it whilst it was on it’s side, then the recovery had to right it and recover it, the syrup had then to be cleaned up, only to find that it had deteriorated the road surface so 2 lanes needed resurfacing. they don’t have all these things waiting around the corner ready for when you lot decide to play dodgems!
Go on then, blame it on the HE, not the steering wheel attendant that rolled it in the first place. Never the fault of you bumper-sniffing, elephant racing steering wheel attendants!
A 16 hour closure of the M6 is ridiculous!
Get your facts right Biffo the road did not need resurfacing as has been quoted by Highways England operations manager Ros Drew and in gods name why the hell were the traffic lights not switched off at the top of the slip road at Junction 19 to let the traffic flow up and over the junction, four trucks and about six cars got through and back to red with nothing coming from the right on the roundabout! 
The real Biffo:
Typical of Trucknet, it’s all the fault of the HE.
The HE didn’t push the bloody wagon over, but they had to get a fork truck to the scene then unload it whilst it was on it’s side, then the recovery had to right it and recover it, the syrup had then to be cleaned up, only to find that it had deteriorated the road surface so 2 lanes needed resurfacing. they don’t have all these things waiting around the corner ready for when you lot decide to play dodgems!
Go on then, blame it on the HE, not the steering wheel attendant that rolled it in the first place. Never the fault of you bumper-sniffing, elephant racing steering wheel attendants!
Who the ■■■■ are the HE?
xichrisxi:
Who the [zb] are the HE?
Highways England.
tomk86:
My heart goes out to the unlucky ones with a little baby in the car with no food etc.
I’ve never actually thought that before, thanks as a forth coming father, I’ll make sure we have extra baby food in the car on journeys that evolve a motorway
Terry T:
xichrisxi:
Who the [zb] are the HE?Highways England.
Ah I see,yep was their fault for sure…I’m just saying it to wind Biffo up he hates us lorryists 
I was coming down the A1/A14 spur road this afternoon and the wombles had closed the other carriageway to allow two workmen to repair a pot hole. All well and good there, no problems you might think. Except they closed it before the slip road leading up to Alconbury truck stop, rather than put the closure 50ft down the road and allow the traffic to go up and over using said slip road. But no, they decided that it would be better to hold all the traffic.
And before you ask, the pot hole was under the bridge going over the top if the spur road, so no reason why the slip road couldn’t be used, without causing any danger to the two workmen.
Trundling down the hard shoulder on the 42 this morning…then HARD SHOULDER FOR EMERGENCY USE ONLY.
loads of flapping and emergency braking…then CONGESTION USE HARD SHOULDER.
Nuggets
The HE is Highways England, not Highways Agency.
Ok, so it didn’t need resurfacing, but lets go through what PROBABLY had to happen;…
Reports to police or HE about a HGV overturned at J19, M6 N/B, found on CCTV to be in the roadworks area. The National Control Centre would be informed, and working on past experience of over-turned HGVs, would guess a “clear-up” time, putting this on the website and out to the media, this would need to be adjusted as the incident progresses.
Deployed to the incident; HE Traffic officers, police, ambulance, fire, roadworks safety officer (This part of network under control of contractor whilst r/works in place)
On arrival, any injuries dealt with by fire & ambo, casualties removed from scene. Police investigate incident, possible trained investigator required to scene (maybe not to this as only minor injuries stated)
Additional traffic officers deployed from other parts of network, Traffic Management truck required to implement full closure of c/way & overlay traffic officers small cones, sending traffic up & over, TM vehicle would have probably had to attend from either, Westhoughton (J6,M61) Bredbury (J25,M60) or possible roadworks contractor had one available, otherwise one would need to be taken off another job somewhere on the network to attend.
Roadworks contractor would not have resources for a fork truck and skip lorry to attend, so the fork truck from one of the above depots (Westhoughton or Bredbury) skip lorry from an outside source - stand-by driver would need to be contacted at home to go pick up the skip & attend. Fork truck driver would be busy on some other road works on the network and would need to be stood down from that, sent to one of the above depots to pick up low loader with fork truck,
It would also be noted that there is a spillage of syrup & diesel on the c/way, another HE contractors driver (& there aren’t many of them on nights!) would have to be taken off the work that he’s presently on to return to the deport to unload a salt spreading lorry of salt, then reload it with sand, it may also need another contractor driver to drive the sweeper, or this could have been an outside firm with their driver on stand-by at home called in. Each of these vehicle would then need to get to the site.
The roadworks free recovery would not be able to deal with righting the HGV, but would need to call in two cranes as well as a heavy recovery (sometimes a low-loader) again these need to get to the scene.
The recovery operation to right the HGV could only take place when the load has been removed from the HGV and either loaded it onto another HGV or into the skip.
Once the HGV is righted, it can then be recovered.
The syrup now needs to be dealt with, sand is spread onto it from the gritter then basically hand mixed with shovels until most of it can be put into the skip. From the camera, a specialist company attended to deal with it, probably with chemicals to liquify what was left before ‘sump-sucking it’ into a small tanker. now it would again be sanded then swept, sanded again & swept numerous times until everyone is happy with the surface.
Once all the vehicles involved with the recovery and clean up have left the scene, the HE traffic officers put a RRB on, stop the traffic for a short time to give the TM crew a safe area to remove the c/way closure.
Meanwhile to H/S barrier will need replacing afterwards.
Switching the traffic lights off would mean that several police officers would be required for directing traffic, these are just not available.