M5 both directions, cars at 53 mph

I used to do a lot of JCB driving, one lad got nailed for taking a fast trac on the motorway ,i did think that vehicles that couldn’t manage 30mph had to have a flashing beacon on?

tachograph:

Bungle666:

albion1971:
Dangerous driving! What you on about? The maximum speed for a car on a motorway 70 mph. There is no minimum speed unless indicated.

WRONG! the minimum mandatory speed on a motorway is 30MPH UNLESS otherwise indicated or directed.

Perhaps you could post a link to this minimum speed limit on motorways ?

There is no minimum speed limit on UK motorways unless one is signposted.

As far as I’m aware the only rule is that you cannot drive so slowly as to cause a danger or obstruction to other road users.

Im actually glad you asked me, as (slightly embarrassingly) it would appear im wrong! :blush: :blush: on 2 things! not just the one!

I cant find a mention of a minimum speed limit in the highway code (although i was told some time ago about there being a minimum speed, maybe it was an ADVISABLE minimum speed). Also it would appear i was wrong about motorcycles… I was TOLD when i did my bike training bikes under 125cc were banned, but it is in actual fact bikes under 50cc!

gov.uk/motorways-253-to-273 … 253-to-254

I fell a bit of a t*@t now! :blush: :blush: :blush: :unamused: :unamused: :unamused:

sorry chaps!

goes to find the shovel to bury himself with

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Bungle666:

dar1976:

Bungle666:

albion1971:
Dangerous driving! What you on about? The maximum speed for a car on a motorway 70 mph. There is no minimum speed unless indicated.

WRONG! the minimum mandatory speed on a motorway is 30MPH UNLESS otherwise indicated or directed.

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Correct.

Which is why mopeds are it allowed on a motorway.

Actually, the law as it stands doesn’t EXACTLY ban mopeds/scooters, it bans any vehicle under 125cc engine capacity.

which effectively bans MOST mopeds/scooters! however, some of the vespas/piaggio’s ETC ETC were made in odd sizes that are ABOVE 125cc therefore they are allowed!

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dont know where u got that info but its wrong

Prohibited vehicles. Motorways MUST NOT be used by pedestrians, holders of provisional motorcycle or car licences, riders of motorcycles under 50 cc, cyclists, horse riders, certain slow-moving vehicles and those carrying oversized loads (except by special permission), agricultural vehicles, and powered wheelchairs/powered mobility scooters (see Rules 36 to 46 inclusive)
Laws HA 1980 sects 16, 17 & sch 4, MT(E&W)R regs 3(d), 4 & 11, MT(E&W)(A)R, R(S)A sects 7, 8 & sch 3, RTRA sects 17(2) & (3), & MT(S)R reg 10

gizzer:
dont know where u got that info but its wrong

Read above matey, I just discovered that myself!

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FarnboroughBoy11:
At no point on the public highway should a truck be overtaking a car, it’s ridiculous.

this this this!

same as pulling off a roundabout…how exactly can I end up accelerating faster than a car■■?

rob22888:
It’s always the same cars. Vauxhall Agila, Suzuki WagonR, Honda Jazz, Citroen Berlingo. See one of those ahead and my hand goes for the indicator stalk, just like Tesco wagons.

What about Toyota Prius (or pious), Nissan Micras, and the ultimate SAGA Lout vehicles- Rovers (which go faster when riding on a recovery truck).

The most economic speed for a car on a motorway is supposed to be about 56 mph so if that is the case then why don’t car drivers simply find the quickest LGV which is likely to be the one doing 56 and follow that at a good safe distance ■■

Why should they be dictated to by lorry drivers.
If they want to drive a 50 they can just cause lorry drivers need to rush around with their foot to the floor.

karl67:
Why should they be dictated to by lorry drivers.
If they want to drive a 50 they can just cause lorry drivers need to rush around with their foot to the floor.

True, but in most cases they speed up as you pass, leaving you marooned in the middle lane, risking blindsiding some muppet who’s attempting to undertake in the inside lane.
I rarely drive at 70 as I reckon doing about 3000 rpm max in top gear is a good compromise between speed and fuel economy. This is about 60-65 dependng which of our cars I’m driving.

dri-diddly-iver:

toby1234abc:
Could this be dangerous driving as trucks try to get passed and nearly cause near miss accidents due to these car drivers saving their fuel.

That bit baffled me? Why would you nearly cause an accident passing a car going slightly slower than you?

Not everytime however it does, for example I was coming up to a slow car that I needed to overtake I checked my mirrors there was a car to my right in the middle lane so I indicated Signaling my intentions whilst waiting for the car to pass what did he do swerved out into the outside lane and hit the car overtaking him all i did was indicate. Would that of happened if the car I wanted to overtake wasnt there simple answer no. We are always going to be overtaking at some point but we shouldn’t be overtaking cars they should be doing a speed where trucks can’t touch them.

dannycivic02:

dri-diddly-iver:

toby1234abc:
Could this be dangerous driving as trucks try to get passed and nearly cause near miss accidents due to these car drivers saving their fuel.

That bit baffled me? Why would you nearly cause an accident passing a car going slightly slower than you?

Not everytime however it does, for example I was coming up to a slow car that I needed to overtake I checked my mirrors there was a car to my right in the middle lane so I indicated Signaling my intentions whilst waiting for the car to pass what did he do swerved out into the outside lane and hit the car overtaking him all i did was indicate. Would that of happened if the car I wanted to overtake wasnt there simple answer no. We are always going to be overtaking at some point but we shouldn’t be overtaking cars they should be doing a speed where trucks can’t touch them.

Surely this has to be a joke, rather than blame the driver you wanted to overtake why wasn’t it your fault for signalling right when it clearly wasn’t safe to pull out, in fact if construction workers hadn’t built the road the accident wouldn’t have happened, so why not blame them.

I’m sorry but your logic baffles me, how on earth can you blame the driver of the vehicle you wanted to overtake because another driver pulled out without first checking that it was safe to do so.

tachograph:

dannycivic02:

dri-diddly-iver:

toby1234abc:
Could this be dangerous driving as trucks try to get passed and nearly cause near miss accidents due to these car drivers saving their fuel.

That bit baffled me? Why would you nearly cause an accident passing a car going slightly slower than you?

Not everytime however it does, for example I was coming up to a slow car that I needed to overtake I checked my mirrors there was a car to my right in the middle lane so I indicated Signaling my intentions whilst waiting for the car to pass what did he do swerved out into the outside lane and hit the car overtaking him all i did was indicate. Would that of happened if the car I wanted to overtake wasnt there simple answer no. We are always going to be overtaking at some point but we shouldn’t be overtaking cars they should be doing a speed where trucks can’t touch them.

Surely this has to be a joke, rather than blame the driver you wanted to overtake why wasn’t it your fault for signalling right when it clearly wasn’t safe to pull out, in fact if construction workers hadn’t built the road the accident wouldn’t have happened, so why not blame them.

I’m sorry but your logic baffles me, how on earth can you blame the driver of the vehicle you wanted to overtake because another driver pulled out without first checking that it was safe to do so.

I know what you’re saying but I don’t think he was blaming the slow car in lane 1■■, clearly it was the other idiots fault for pulling out and hitting the car in lane 3.
I think the point he was trying to make was that it was all an unnecessary change in a traffic pattern just because a car is in and amongst trucks around the 55mph marker.
What makes it worse is that the majority of these car drivers are no good in a crowd and it gets a little bit too much for them when there is lorries in front, to the side and behind and then they start flapping.
They just shouldn’t be there in my opinion.

Leaving a few clicks spares completely eradicates this problem.

Saaamon:
Leaving a few clicks spares completely eradicates this problem.

Far too sensible a suggestion…

dannycivic02:

dri-diddly-iver:

toby1234abc:
Could this be dangerous driving as trucks try to get passed and nearly cause near miss accidents due to these car drivers saving their fuel.

That bit baffled me? Why would you nearly cause an accident passing a car going slightly slower than you?

Not everytime however it does, for example I was coming up to a slow car that I needed to overtake I checked my mirrors there was a car to my right in the middle lane so I indicated Signaling my intentions whilst waiting for the car to pass what did he do swerved out into the outside lane and hit the car overtaking him all i did was indicate. Would that of happened if the car I wanted to overtake wasnt there simple answer no. We are always going to be overtaking at some point but we shouldn’t be overtaking cars they should be doing a speed where trucks can’t touch them.

thats right mate, just like there is in america
i reckon if there was a minimum limit of 58 mph on motorways for cars , vans etc
and leave hgvs as they are with maximum 56 mph
the amount of accidents on motorways would reduce dramatically
to make it even safer let the cars do 90mph as in germany

I just wish car and hgv driver wont take note of this and don’t try to bully there way onto the motorway

Joining the motorway (259)

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Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway. You should
give priority to traffic already on the motorway
check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane
not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder
stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway
remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking.

I had the pleasure of a trip down to Avonmouth and back on Sunday. Not only does it have the record for cars travelling between 50 and 55,but they have another neat little trick. When you get into the roadworks and slow down to 50 they overtake you and then slow down to 45 and another one creeps past at 47 so you can’t even pull out to pass.
I’m really glad I’m paid by the hour so that I can hum a happy tune as I drone along , but it does make for a tiny bit of stress when the trip normally takes 4hrs05 and you have to knock it back too often.Michaelwood sometimes gets an unexpected visit :smiley:

None of this post would be a problem if some hyped up idiots decided to limit trucks I know how fast to drive and when not to I am allowed to do it in my car which can do 140 mph but I don’t do it

A l c:
None of this post would be a problem if some hyped up idiots decided to limit trucks I know how fast to drive and when not to I am allowed to do it in my car which can do 140 mph but I don’t do it

Would you be good enough to put some punctuation in there, so that I have a clue what you mean.

Nissan Micra’s are always drive by Bialzibob :smiling_imp: himself…when I see a Micra I just know in advance there is going to be something they do which is ridiculous, they really do drive in their own frilly happy bubbley version of reality whilst the world and every truck passes them both sides of Lane 2… :imp:

Citroen Belingo’s are definitely right up there as well…old gits, I mean seriously, why buy a bread van and then drive it like your life depended on the last ounce of derv you saved on your 3 mile weekly round trip to Crapco ?

And btw, you won’t pass me doing 50mph with a Tosco trailer in tow :stuck_out_tongue: , not unless it is coming off a slip road uphill and heavy anyways :slight_smile: